Falirion

Hold up a second, no one has claimed to have been jailed, neither today nor last day, whats up with that? ALSO how did you talk privately to Hypurr, if i may ask? you 2 did not whisper

I meant last day, i am speaking slightly offtopic, since it currently literally doesn't matter to me, but you were going on about not lynching a claimed executioner despite evidence to that claim being fake, thats what i mean, as for today for aldo's psychic visions, i have to assume i just got unlucky here, dive was clearly an evil for the 1st vision, hypurr may be too, although due to my observation he can't be a killing role unless alistair somehow has basic defense, he definetly isn't the poisoner, and alistair speaking against him would make him not a vampire, unless again ali has basic defense, and none of the roles that we know are in the game had that N1 (coven leader has now with the necronomicon) the the inno vision i have to assume that you were the garantied town (if hypurr is town, which i fear he actually might, then he is literally gamethrowing) and for today's definetly drago all of that is provided aldo's claim is true.... which considering it's aldo could be anything but i am wasting my breath @mimi vote me, lynch me, that is the only way to confirm my information at this point

You know what you say about statistics? Statistics say nothing about the idividual Pirate is a unique role, there can only be one, so bean was the only one, your claim is interesting, i recognize the role you are claiming, if that claim is true.... well i guess we will have to see nothing i say will be believe so idk why i even bother I am sorry to say that you are wrong, Hypurr visited Alistair N1, ie the night you were poisoned as i already said, i know what i saw, and at this point fucking lynch me, then you will see that i am saying the truth. Hypurr literally can't be the poisoner I'd selfvote if it was allowed since nothing short of me flipping as Lookout will prove my point at this rate (and believe ME i WILL) Well you are wrong on both counts, as you will soon see and what i mean is, as astra and myself said the entire last day, dive's executioner claim did not explain the attack astra recieved, so it was just a convienient excuse and it was obvious as one

I really do not care right now, if you really think lynching me is the right choice then you will see how wrong you are, really no skin of my back Hypurr is definetly lying, and that should not surprise anyone here considering his behaviour so far, at my guess he is a Jester trying to get himself lynched, and as such the last any spot, so if i get lynched here, you will see i was saying the truth and then i would suggest our jailor (if he hasn't been vampirised by now) to execute hypurr, and then lynch drago if hypurr flips as ANYTHING that isn't on our current role list now if hypurr flips as something of the current rolelist that astra and myself seperatly mentioned, then there could be possibility that aldo is BSing (i would not put it past him in fact i wouldn't put it past him to actually be psychic and replace one name in his vision just to mess with people, because this guy plays like a madman when he feels like it) but matt being evil strikes me as more likely (i really do not know how he keeps his "always evil" track record, and i am not sure if i would call it a blessing or a curse) and nicki, i really expect better from you, since you are usually more perceptive than this, i can see why you would vote me, but seriously taking dive's obvious fakeclaim at face value? REALLY??

I mean i would prefer that, but for all you know it's either one of us, i am saying matt is lying Also since i just noticed a rather fatal spelling error on my part, it's supposed to say, "nicki claimed to be witched by the Coven leader N2" Nicki can't be any coven role in fact, as Amine the sheriff found her innocent during N2, both Coven leader and Poisoner would have shown as suspicious to him see here

Atleast one of them evil, so me or drago Unless you were vamped which is why i was attempting to whisper you, if you are vamped i would be able to, it would also disprove drago's claim, but things can't just be that easy

@Astra125 oh yeah one thing about your list, if a mafia faction exists, then there is always a mafioso or a godfather, if there is none but another mafia role left then that one turns into a mafioso, so there can't be a consort or hypnotist in this game, with only 1 any spot left, so the 2nd normal roleblocker is another escort also just for confirmation, did you roleblock me in addition to bean, or was it the other roleblocker? (if you didn't block me don't say who you did, maybe someone stumbles over their claim) the other roleblocker presumably being nicki, which would make drago's claim easy enough to make up for a coven member, they would know nicki's role and who they made her target (nicki claimed to be witched be the Coven leader N2)

Funny you should mention being a lookout, since that is my role, so either you are lying drago (in which case i would suspect alistair aswell, as i told him this in a whisper, would be a convienient thing for you to claim my role before i do, wouldn't it?) or aldo's psychic claim is fake (psychic claims are easy to fake) and we have 2 lookouts anyway my NA list: N1: Watching Alistair - was visited by Hypurr N2: Watching Aldo - no one visited N3: Was Roleblocked by Pirate and an Escort Conlusion from the 1st Nights observation, Hypurr is neither the Coven leader nor the Poisoner, Alistair claims to not have recieved any system messages that night so Hypurr's role wouldn't cause any, IF he is a Jester then he was the coven leaders target N1, if not then he still can't be any of the dangerous roles we are looking for Alistair also accused Hypurr before i mentioned my role and NA result, so Hypurr also isn't our starting Vampire @Alistair Care to confirm this? Mayor (Town) Jailor (Town) Doctor (Town) Lookout (Town) Psychic (Town) Vampire Hunter (Town) Escort (Town) Escort (Town) Sheriff (Town) Coven Leader (Coven) Poisoner (Coven) Pirate (Neutral Chaos) Vampire (Neutral Chaos) Werewolf (Neutral Killing) Any i had this in my last will among other things, this is the starting role list according to action's that happened, which matches with your List anyway If drago really does flip lookout then Aldo is lying When i flip lookout, then drago is lying or aldo is lying [Trial] Drago

Yes i already noticed that i that i made my correction on the wrong point, point still is, the coven leader can't be blocked, so the coven leader definetly did their action N1, unless they abstained, so at a guess whoever was witched by the coven leader presumably didn't claim so *cough* Hypurr *cough*

Wait for some reason, i read poisoner as coven leader, for poisoner this holds true

I noticed this to and i have a theory about that, albeit a little far fetched, don't think it's important right now though This needs correction though, the coven leader is roleblock immune, so that doesn't clear any of these people (and also it makes no one claiming to have been witched during N1 even stranger)

Sooo i kinda was roleblocked twice last night, 1 by bean the pirate and also one of our escorts decided to block me, soo there is that Also look Dive was a werewolf, almost like astra and i were saying all day

I have already made my case on this and gave my reason I am sorry Dive, i can understand bad luck all to well [Guilty]

....I'm getting triggered [Unvote] Hypurr [Trial] Dive @Seal Pls change to Dive and we have a trial Vampire Hunter gets to see what is said in the vampire's nightchat (with anonymous speakers)

You know what, fine... if you want to put a trial on someone that behaves like a jester, be my guest, since A trial is better than none [Unvote] Dive [Trial] Hypurr a trial atleast gives time to clear this up.... @Alistair @GenEric @LykosHand @Aldo @Chickens @Astra can i convince some of you to follow this, since apparently the Hypurr voters are too stubborn

Oh, wups, okay then amend my points to: amine swapping votes away from dive when we only needed one (1) more vote we need 2 more on dive or 3 more on hypurr

So just as a reminder for everyone, we need 9 votes on 1 person for a trial so as it stands there will be no trial: Number of votes on Hypurr: 5 Voters: Nicki, Daniel, Ect, Mimi, Amine Number of votes on Daniel: 6 Voters: Astra, Lykos, GenEric, Falirion, Alistair, Drago Number of votes on Alistair : 2 Voters: Bean, Aldo these are the votes, so we need atleast 3 votes on dive or 4 votes on hypurr

so instead you are gonna vote up the obvious jester play and and take away a vote from dive when we still need 2 votes for a trial 3 hours before end of phase, where there is no way that enough people will swing over, also you are suggesting that you are gonna investigate someone that claims a DETECTION IMMUNE role (executioner), whose likely real role (werewolf) is also detection immune, so you wouldn't be able to tell a difference if you are sheriff, and if you investigator you also can't tell the difference because werewolf and executioner also have the same investigation result so you checking dive does fuck all

I can agree with hypurr not helping his case by spamming RANDOM NONSENSE @Hypurr can you actually pls say something relevant, thx we already have bean and even he is more intelligible currently That being said i have seen several people just take dive's claim at face value despite astra's claim, and wanted to make it evident for those that may have missed that, and yes i am aware that multiple people can be put on trial, i just don't see the point if we have someone that is very likely a dangerous evil that tries to cover himself with a less evil role also leaves some investigatives that we may have to be able to do their thing on well me and hypurr mainly (or well other targets at their own discretion)

@mimi @Dragoknight @Alistair @EndearingCharacterTrait @Aldo @Chickens Since apparently this was more obvious to me, let me point out something for you: Astra claimed to have been attacked (attacked in this context meaning that something besides the poison would have killed him if the doc didn't heal him) It was open knowledge and one of the Big topic D2 that astra is poisoned ->Astra would be a waste for any nightkiller to target last night as he would either die to the poison anyway or be healed and as such can't be killed unless your name is pestilence (and we would know if pestilence was active) conclusion: astra wasn't targeted for a nightkill but Astra claimed to have roleblocked dive A werewolf, if they stay at home on a full moon night, attack any visitor and a werewolf is forced to stay at home if they get roleblocked. and a serial Killer would attacke their roleblocker if they get roleblocked so 3 cases exist: 1) Astra is lying about being attacked (this i find unlikely as this would put the spotlight on astra if dive doesn't flip wolf or SK) 2) Astra is saying the truth (so dive's executioner claim is fake, he is a SK or a werewolf) 3) One of our Nightkillers has a lower attention span than 6 year old me (with ADHD) on a sugar rush (which i really don't belive) so following that i'd say lynch dive: if he is wolf or SK: GOOD if he really is Executioner: Nothing lost and we could take a closer look at astra

Also since i overlooked this just now, we had 4 roleblock claims the previous day, 1 Jailed (Drago) 1 Pirate Duel (Amine) 2 Escort/Consort blocking them (Nicki and Eric) and Today we have 3 by now 2 Escort/Consort Roleblocks (Dive & Lykos, the former confirmed by Astra) 1 Pirate Duel (you) so there is probably 1 last person blocked because they were jailed so yeah seems like we just have a ton of roleblockers

No i use attack in the sense of would have killed astra, werewolfs "attack" someone that visits them on a full moon night, if the werewolf stays at home so what i and astra say happend was astra roleblocked dive Dive as a werewolf (or Serial killer, but i am thinking wolf) was forced to stay at home Dive attacks astra as consequence of how that role interaction works

Well i should also do this [Unvote] Hypurr [Trial] Dive i might be misreading what you said there, but the even night vision shows Townies, atleast one of them is Town, or both of them. basically i guess how it works is it RNGs 1 Townie to show as a garantied good, and then a 2nd person at random, soo it's the same chance as a RNG lynching someone from the start (without regarding any other evidence) Astra on the flipside claims attacked on a full moon night after visiting Dive, it was open knowledge that astra was poisoned and would either die at then end of the night if there is no doctor, or be healed by one, only the werewolf would gain anything from attacking into that, but since the doctor didn't die astra wasn't attacked directly by a werewolf, so it is a lot more likely that astra was attacked for visiting a role that attacks visitors Nevermind the fact that Dive is claiming Executioner, which even if it is true, is personally no reason not to lynch him, alliances with executioners are shaky at best especially since their target is always a townie (unless the get vamped during the game, is the only exception), which gives them strong reason to strike alliances with mafia/coven, when convenient A coven leader control.... i don't think you are lying, what i am curious about is who was controlled N1 then, because no one claimed so, which is odd, could mean the CL was roleblocked since the Coven knows your role you could share it, although maybe not since you wouldn't really have any results being blocked and then controlled VERY GOOD POINT, i am missing a poisoned Claim, also a pirate duel aswell (and technically someone jailed)

Oh so you are saying that you visited dive, i didn't catch that, so that makes more sense maybe we should put Dive on trial instead of hypurr then, both of them (and myself) were in Aldo's "Evil Vision"

I am really starting to think we don't have a mafia faction, we have a coven as proven by the poisoner going around, but after 2 nights not having a mafia kill is impressive to say the least, although that is still a theory at this point Just to clarify, the psychics vision work in the way that in even Nights the show a vision of 2 people with AT LEAST 1 town, it's possible that both are town (but with hypurr also appearing in aldo's other vision this is less likely) but just to note similarly the odd night visions show 3 people with atleast 1 non-town, it can be more than 1 (on danger of shooting myself in the foot here since i was in the last one) hmmm thats curious, you can't really have been attacked by a werewolf without the doc dying unless a 2nd doc protected the doc that healed you, which would be preposterous ngl not sure why you would have been attacked, by any other attacking role though [Trial] Hypurr Sure i want to hear what Hypurr has to say