Swimming95

Sorry for the awkward spacing, I cropped the photo so it is only me... Its from prom my senior year and it was a lot of fun

I'm sorry but I enjoyed it... it was so laughable in its attempt to be serious that I took it in my best interest to beat the trainers as best as I could :3

Woo, congrats to Evans for winning and Swimming95 for coming in second. We will see you all next week

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I am going to join... might not be able to battle until 8:30 :V

As a runner of a baton pass team that works pretty well... the only effective way to not lose to a baton pass team is to not let it set up. idc what you guys say it is honestly the only way to stop it. The second I can set up a swords dance, whether you taunt me or not, I will be able to sweep you. The problem with a lot of these strategies is that they do not stop the heart of the baton pass team. A good BP team should be able to survive without BP. Don't forget that its fine to use these tactics but I will just switch back later when your threat is gone

I agree with Aierow. Zapdos's versatility is what allows it to still shine in OU. It can run scarf, defensive, specially defensive or offensive and even subroost. Its movepool is huge and this is what makes it an OU threat.

So... no offense, its not that hard to counter weather. This is even without having access to weather of my own. Groudon is both too bulky and too strong physically to be moved down to OU. Gyarados doesn't counter groudon at all. It has access to rock polish which a lot of sets use and is fast enough to use it well considering that base 90 isn't terrible, not good but certainly not bad. You cannot say that water is a good counter to groudon because of sun diminishing its effects in addition to him having the bulk to, in many situations, stay in and sweep against ice and grasses. Also, he isn't going to make sun teams any more feasible than a ninetails would in many ways... One pokemon does not a weather team make. I don't know the best way to say it but most of the people who gripe about weather teams are unable to teambuild well themselves. Weather is easily counterable if people give good thought and put in effort into their teambuilding. Do not simply write off weather as being op without actually attempting to counter it.

I think none of those should be OU >.> Manaphy's tail glow is godly in the rain combined with rest. He is bulky enough where its very easy to get to +6

Sorry, what I meant by giving it bulk is that it can stand up against things that are neutral against it. I primarily use shaymin-S as a hit and run pokemon. Against fire types, I usually do a lot of damage with earth power or just flinch it to death with air slash. Also, do not forget that lowering an opponent's defense by that much with that much certainty is a near equivalent to forcing them to switch out. Shaymin very well counters kyogre and groudon which are on most ubers teams... it can outspeed a darkrai and do a pretty good job of flinching a majority of its competition. Plus, I usually give shaymin HP-ice to deal with dragons in ubers effectively. I definitely doubt blaziken is a good enough counter considering how many turns it would take to outspeed blaziken, all whilst fending off air slashes. Tornadus-T also potentially has some difficulty if someone wanted to keep shaymin in due to air-slashes and HP ice to do the final blow. But in that case, yes... shaymin would switch out only to come back later. TBH, a lot of pokemon are toast against their weaknesses... hence weaknesses.

Sorry, also forgot to mention that amoongus has almost no speed... unless you feel like running a scarf set, you might be able to outspeed and counter breloom well. If a pokemon is already asleep on your team, you have even less to fear from it as it really doesn't have anything spectacular to offer. Also, as far as shaymin goes... I view it as a much much better togekiss. In ubers, I run a scarf varient with a lot of bulk and attack. This not only allows it to take hits, but allows it to very easily counter most pokemon. Plus, even if it doesn't counter it, its air slash and speed give it a better chance than jirachi or togekiss to outspeed its competition and flinch its opponent into submission. With seed flare at its disposal, it almost has a certain chance to lower its opponent's sp. def by 2 stages meaning that unless you know it will do less than 33% on switching in (this is a base 120 attack making it 180 with STAB so no means a tackle), you are in a lot of trouble. Especially that with its speed, it can then switch to a more SE or neutral move to take care of the job after the sp. def drop.

Genesect should definitely stay OU, both of its main varients are not "easily" countered and just because it has poor defensese does not mean it isn't good Abomasnow.... HAHAHHAHAHAHA that one has been said already, definitely NOT ou Tornadus I agree with being OU Machamp just isn't used much or is useful in OU after the gen change. Especially with the addition of elemental punches on conkeldur Sharpedo/Rotom-H are simply not powerful enough. Rotom-H is mostly for defenses not offensive Skymin I have said elsewhere that he should remain ubers... Dusclops is bulky but still, it can be countered very easily Ludicolo can't get swift swim easily in UU and thus does not pose a threat as he isn't as useful without it. Same with armaldo. The reason why kingdra doesnt fall under this is its ability to pose a threat without the safety of rain Amoongus... really? even in the lower tiers, many things can counter them, anything with fire for instance >.> As far as the chandy argument goes, I definitely like it in OU. If it is scarf, it might be able to get one revenge kill but for the most part, it can be countered. A lot of pokemon are strong enough to endure an attack from it and certainly if it isn't scarfed, its speed isn't too amazing.

I agree with those three changes. As far as tornadus goes, I think he is more OU than BL

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I voted for everyone Actually, just amarai, hardy and aya... Ihope they do well

Its speed is actually pretty lackluster and is outsped by enough. It can't be both adamant and jolly (or their special counterparts) so if you increase its speed, its luck won't hold through most often. If you mean its speed with scarf, then yes... it is like most scarf pokemon but don't forget it is locked into a move. Other counters include most steel types, most water types, most fire types etc. The most dangerous thing in my opinion is its versatility in that you don't know its set when it comes out but there are a good amount of pokemon that can accomplish that

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