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Admittedly, my not having been culted would indeed point towards your innocence. However, claiming that I am not the Queen, when you know there isn't any other possibility, makes me think otherwise. Anyway, not that it matters. Whether you're culted or not, you're clearly not the cult leader, thus you're not our target.
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Oh- then it's sooo clear you're lying... Paul was then the Old Maid, and he might be the Old Maid again by now, unless he was culted yesterday. The others can review the posts in this very same thread to confirm that I'm telling the truth. Thing is, I still can't understand why you didn't cult me when you know my real ability.
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@LykosHand and since when do you have that chat?
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I am afraid so. In the rest of cases, the cult will either outnumber us or, at least, have the same number of people as town. The first option is a direct defeat, the second is an eternal LyLo, and I'm quite sure it'll mean that we lose as well.
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You said you had lost your Samurai ability and now you were only the Bulletproof. The anti-conversion privileges came with the Samurai. @NickCrash For the record, I don't think you have been converted, but I wanted to put all the options on the table. If we mislynch today, there'll be no such thing as Night 6. Yes, you're right, in light of the new info I received later from Amber. Venus is not the cult leader, at least. Agree. Why a mystery? Ok, it makes sense, the dead culted people should appear as 3rd party. I think you misunderstood the 6 vs 4 thing. Those 6 were couting potentially dead culted people, assuming they showed as town. Ok, I agree. But didn't you say it was permanent? Because you're both culted? I mean, that makes even less sense, you, as the King, should have a chat with the Queen (me!). @LykosHand --- Okay guys, we need to make a tie. According to Amber, if a tie happens, both people will die. I say we tie Bean and Jace, what do you think? Jace: Alaris, Nick, Lykos, @Psychic Sheep, @purplecicada Bean: @Jace Stormkirk, @Candy, @Venus, @Paul25, @Bam the 25th If one of them is town, they'll win anyway. This way, we improve to a 66% possibility of success the initial 33%.
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Amber just confirmed that the Old Maid role cannot be passed to the cult leader nor anybody culted. Just for you to know. Tomorrow I'll rethink my previous post.
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Thanks!
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Bearing this in mind, let's review each case individually: NickCrash - At the beginning of the game, I said that his role (which was mine at that time, Gryphon), couldn't be converted. In fact, he would have killed anyone trying to convert them. - However, in N1 he was affected by the mysteries, and lost his Samurai condition. From then on, he can have been culted (?). Candy - She is the cop. She appears not to be the Mock Turtle, though, so she would be the second informative role in the game. - She may have been culted in N4, because she said in D5 that her NA had failed trying to check Kiet. Venus - He holds a very important role, therefore Alice, most probably. @Paul25 should tell us everything he discovered about him. - He could be the cultist. Amber told me that 3rd party roles can be transferred by means of the Old Maid role. If Venus' the cultist, then Paul is probably culted as well, and he may lie to us. Bean - Bean. - He may be culted or he might be the cult leader. Alaris - I will now asume that there isn't any culted player holding a gun, because if there were any, they would have already shot by now. I am the Queen of Hearts, and my vote counts as 2. - I could have been culted because Lykos knows how my role works and I would have been a valuable asset in today's lynch, but inexplicably, I have not. I will present this as an argument to demonstrate my innocence: had I been culted, today's lynch wouldn't be necessary. Purplecicada - She is the Duchess, the roleblocker. - I don't think she's been culted, unless it happened last night. @purplecicada could you answer two questions? what happened to your role when you were affected by the mysteries? do the effects last more than 1 day? Lykos - The King of Hearts. Apparently, his ability consisted only in having a chat with the Queen of Hearts. - He lost his ability in N3, so we can assume he was culted then. Paul25 - Right now, he's possibly holding the Old Maid role again. - He may have been culted in N4 or N5, and therefore he may lie if Venus is indeed the cult leader. Amine - We know nothing about him. - He may be culted or he might be the cult leader. He might not though, primarily due to his inactivity, because it seems that the cult leader operated each night. Jace Stormkirk - We know nothing about his role. - He may be culted or he might be the cult leader. --- So, there are 4 candidates: Venus, Bean, Amine and Jace. We are in a LyLo situation, therefore, and as I said before, we're 4 town, 4 cult and old maid. We will assume that even if the player that holds the Old Maid role is culted, they cannot win with the cult, or else we would have lost already. We are now in D6. Therefore, 6 nights have passed: N0, N1, N2, N3, N4 and N5. We know that Lykos was culted in N3, so 5 slots left. We cannot assume, however, that all the culted people are still alive. Lía wasn't culted for sure. Drakyle said that he was sharing a chat with someone, so he could well have been culted in N0. Filthy, Bok and Kiet could have been culted as well. This adds up to a total 6 possible culted people, 2 of which are alive, 3 are dead and 1 was innocent. 5 slots for 6 people. We should try to determine whether the 4 dead townies had been culted or not. Any information regarding this issue will be most welcome. Why? Because if 2 of them were not culted, it means that the cult leader did not use their NA for 1 night. And Jace was roleblocked in N0. Thoughts? --- Also, I think we should also consider tonight's events. My bet is on Knightly and Kiet being lovers, killed by a (culted?) Vigilante. There shouldn't be any scum left, therefore, the kill must have been produced by a town-like role.
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Thanks! I'll review all the posts later. However, now I'll vote Jace too. On the first days, he said he had been roleblocked, when Nicki had targeted Candy. [Eliminate] Jace Stormkirk
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Paul, please disclose Venus' role. I guess he was Alice, but I'd like to know more about his ability. Today's the last day, we must use every bit of info we have.
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We have to lynch the cult leader today, it appears. I'll come later with a detailed analysis.
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[Eliminate] Archeric
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Then perhaps could you elaborate on why you didn't get back to the chat? You didn't seem surprised at all.
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@Hypurr nothing to say?
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This is the harder step in the whole process, really. I wonder how you'd do that
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It happened once in the game I hosted, so anything's possible, actually
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First day dilemma, huh? I hate random voting... I think the most likely option is E
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New list thingie 1. Hypurr (Corso) - Mafia/Third Party (according to Candy's report) 2. Caimie (Newt) - Mafia/Third Party 3. Nick Crash - Confirmed Town 4. Candy - Town (that, or she has bussed Seal) 5. Venus - Confirmed Town (currently Old Maid) 6. Seal - Mafia/Third party 7. L'belle - Mafia/Third Party 8. Draykle - Town 9. Filthy - Town 10. Bean 11. Alaris - Confirmed Town 12. Purplecicada - Confirmed Town 13. Archeric - Mafia/Third Party 14. Lia - Town 15. Lykos - Confirmed Town (could be a Traitor) 16. Mr. Knightly - Third Party (alledgedly) 17. Kiet (Cataline) 18. Bok Choi - Town 19. Paul25 - Confirmed Town 20. Amine 21. Jace Stormkirk He said here in the thread that mysteries hadn't affected him that night. @CrimsonDragon21
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Uh, yeah, my bad!!! Yeah, probably
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Just to arrange things a bit: 1. Hypurr (Corso) - Mafia/Third Party (according to Candy's report) 2. Caimie (Newt) - Mafia/Third Party 3. Nick Crash - Confirmed Town 4. Candy - Town (that, or she has bussed Seal) 5. Venus - Confirmed Town (currently Old Maid) 6. Seal - Mafia/Third party 7. L'belle - Mafia/Third Party 8. Draykle - Town 9. Filthy - Town 10. Bean 11. Alaris - Confirmed Town 12. Purplecicada - Town 13. Archeric - Mafia/Third Party 14. Lia - Town 15. Lykos - Confirmed Town (could be a Traitor) 16. Mr. Knightly - Third Party (alledgedly) 17. Kiet (Cataline) 18. Bok Choi - Town 19. Paul25 - Confirmed Town 20. Amine 21. Jace Stormkirk
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btw @NickCrash I think I have finally come up with an explanation for your accusing Knightly of converting Lykos. But... isn't it too far-fetched?
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Why not use it to prove the towniness of the few people remaining? I mean, at this late stage of the game, I think it'd be more productive, right? Well, if Corso was a scum indeed, it would mean that there are no more scums left, unless Knightly was lying.
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Yeah... you, Candy, Nick, Paul (, Lykos, to certain extent) and I are confirmed. And some of your roles are quite dangerous for them. I don't get why they went after Filthy, unless they knew something we don't. I guess it's not necessary unless you think that you found something relevant that way. Why do you say that?
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@NickCrash Could you please explain me yesterday's comment? I'm curious. @purplecicada Anything to report?
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Well, Seal was Mafia. Corso (->Hypurr) also appeared guilty on Candy's reports, so they're the next on the list: [Eliminate] Hypurr Let's see what we have left: Option 1: the 4 dead mafia/third party were cards. Then, we now have: - Knightly, the alledgedly unaligned card. - A traitor (?) - The Old Maid. - The Jabberwock (may not even be in the game because we were less players than in the original role list). Option 2: 3 of the dead Mafia/third party were cards, one was the Jabberwock. - 1 "original" scum + 1 possible traitor. - Knightly. - Old Maid. Since Corso (=Hypurr) appeared guilty on Candy's reports, he cannot be the Old Maid or the traitor. I'd wager that either he's the last scum (apart from the traitor, if there is one) or that Candy's role gets it right only a part of the times.