@ikaru, yea i know ive sounded like a giant douche lately but i think it might be because i only check here after a couple games and usually those games contain feeders. and idk i was just really pissed when i posted that.
anyway, i do have a lot of experience with "weak" junglers and id say that im very comfortable in jungling and reading what my opposing jungler might do. ofc, low elo junglers are not known for being aggressive counterjunglers and i usually can get around my "weak" picks by making sure i have enough room to function in my own jungle. one way to do this is an early pink ward at bottom-side middle river brush. it adds dragon control and lets you see if the enemy jungler is coming to steal blue. ofc what's stopping them from taking it out but usually most people just walk by pinks and dont even bother clearing them for some odd reason. and as amumu, his clearing speed after his initial clear is looked over by most. after spiritstone and boots, he clears stupidly fast and can easily counterjungle because of this. and also, the only reason i even said amumu was op was because i had never given him a chance before and im just now seeing how good he is in the jungle, especially after the jungle item changes making his blue-reliance a non-issue.
((i also play a lot of other junglers and stuff
((also i find it easier to carry from the jungle than at any other role, but ive been trying to get better at other things so i havent been playing it recently))))
((and dont try to put this post into any logical order because im posting it after 72 hours with no sleep zzzz))