Dee45 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 First time player here. I was playing the game on the previous version (13.5.6 I believe?) and just beat Ryland. I then started chapter 15 and did a bunch of sidequests, including finishing Narcissa's Hauntings and fighting some of the Culvier clan. After, I went to Alamissa Urben to start the Hidden Library Finale, but Karen is not there. I updated to v14 (I was waiting to update until after I beat the previous version but decided to do it to double-check) and she still isn't there. I have definitely cleared all three past Hidden Library quests (they are in my quest log as completed). The guide I was reading says that the Hidden Library Finale can't be done after the .karma files, which are part of ch 15 but which I have not started yet. (I literally JUST started the main story of ch15 and have not talked to Alexandra in Sashila yet.) Just to be sure, I loaded an old save from the end of ch 14, post-Ryland defeat but before starting chapter 15, and she still isn't there, making me think this isn't a timing issue. What is happening? Does anyone know how or why this quest isn't starting? I would very much like to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcd Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) I think you do need to advance the ch. 15 story somewhat, and starting karma files does not lock you out of the quest immediatly. Edited August 12 by mcd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee45 Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 On 8/12/2026 at 3:41 PM, mcd said: I think you do need to advance the ch. 15 story somewhat, and starting karma files does not lock you out of the quest immediatly. I will progress ch15, I did make a backup save of where I'm at in case it doesn't work. Do you know which part of ch15 the hidden library finale becomes accessible? I just beat Melia and Karen still isn't spawning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcd Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Im not sure, could you have simply looked at the wrong spot in Alamissa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee45 Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 (edited) 5 hours ago, mcd said: Im not sure, could you have simply looked at the wrong spot in Alamissa? I am in the same spot portrayed in this video: I've progressed the bit where Erin narrates while using a calendar; I got the omni ring and am now supposed to be heading to Axis High, and Karen's still not appearing in Alamissa, which makes me think that she is not going to show up and the quest start event was either somehow missed or isn't spawning for some reason. All of the guides I look at say to start in ch14 and that it ends in Karma Files, but none says when it becomes available (if at all) in ch15... Really, really bummed as it seems like I'm going to miss a plot-relevant sidequest that I did all the prerequisites for and was looking forward to. Edited August 15 by Dee45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcd Posted Saturday at 11:47 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:47 PM It only expires late into the karma files, so I'd just complete the school of nightmares and check again after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pool_q Posted Sunday at 11:59 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:59 AM Could you post your save file? I want to check to see if you have the completion flag for Hidden Library 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee45 Posted Monday at 02:23 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:23 AM 14 hours ago, pool_q said: Could you post your save file? I want to check to see if you have the completion flag for Hidden Library 3. Here Game.rxdata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee45 Posted Monday at 02:38 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:38 AM 14 hours ago, pool_q said: Could you post your save file? I want to check to see if you have the completion flag for Hidden Library 3. And in case that won't work due to it being when I control Erin, here's a slightly older one from the day I started this thread Game.rxdata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pool_q Posted Monday at 06:13 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:13 AM That save file has already started the quest apparently, the next step is to go to the labyrinth. This variable is in the state it gets set to after you talk to Karen in the inn at Sashila and she tells you to go to the bottom of the labyrinth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee45 Posted Tuesday at 04:37 AM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 04:37 AM 22 hours ago, pool_q said: That save file has already started the quest apparently, the next step is to go to the labyrinth. This variable is in the state it gets set to after you talk to Karen in the inn at Sashila and she tells you to go to the bottom of the labyrinth. Oh my god, I went to the basement and it worked. I don't know why it was progressed that far since I definitely didn't start it (like I said I jumped right from beating Adam which gives you Dive to the Zone Zero quest) but thank you so much for checking this for me, I never would have thought to check the bottom of Zorrialyn without picking her up in Alamissa first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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