is [spoiler] just plain cheating or am I missing something?

[Digger]

Spoiler

I'm talking about Hardy, his Gigalith in particular

 

for reference, it outspeeds my 145 speed pokemon normally, yet when I put up Trick Room it goes before 107 speed pokemon under trick room. I frisked it so I know its got a choice band, and its ability is Sand Stream which is clearly announced

 

There is nothing in the field notes about any changes to speed or priority

 

Is there some mechanic at play that I'm missing or is he just a dirty cheater?

 

[wcv]

1 minute ago, Digger said:

Spoiler

 

I'm talking about Hardy, his Gigalith in particular

 

for reference, it outspeeds my 145 speed pokemon normally, yet when I put up Trick Room it goes before 107 speed pokemon under trick room. I frisked it so I know its got a choice band, and its ability is Sand Stream which is clearly announced

 

There is nothing in the field notes about any changes to speed or priority

 

Is there some mechanic at play that I'm missing or is he just a dirty cheater?

 

 

Spoiler

Which Pokemon is his Gigalith outspeeding? I didn't notice that issue when I battled him. 

 

Also, could you put your question under spoiler tags? Its the eye button up in the options section of the post, seven spots to the right of the Bold option.

 

[Digger]

1 minute ago, wcv said:

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Which Pokemon is his Gigalith outspeeding? I didn't notice that issue when I battled him. 

 

Also, could you put your question under spoiler tags? Its the eye button up in the options section of the post, seven spots to the right of the Bold option.

 

I don't see what difference it would make, but I noticed it with a Chandelure

[Zargerth]

Trick room always goes last. The user's Speed stat doesn't matter.

[Digger]

4 hours ago, Zargerth said:

Trick room always goes last. The user's Speed stat doesn't matter.

Now don't I feel like a dummy.

 

That would do it. I Never really used the move much, but it seemed like a good fit for this battle with taking out the giga + trick rooming to deal with all his fast stuff.

 

Already beat it after moving away to another strategy however. Thanks for the lesson of the day anyway!