Shamitako Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Also, what is the difference between Normal and Draft pick? Well, there isn't actually. But I assume by "Normal" you mean Blind Pick. Blind is when everyone just picks a champion and jumps into the match. Draft is a back and forth between the teams allowing for one team to try to pick counters to the other. There's also a banning phase in Draft And Tacps, a lot of times the most toxic people are actually good individual players who are bad at teamwork. And at lower elo where nobody can work together, individual ability to carry is often far more important than performing well as a team. Once you get past a certain point, probably somewhere in high Plat or low Diamond if I had to guess, it becomes more important to be both individually good and good as a team and those people start getting weeded out Of course the better you are on your own, the longer it will take your lack of team skills to make you fall off. It probably also helps them to main JG or Mid, since they have the strongest ability to singlehandedly snowball a team EDIT: Also at higher levels people are less demoralized by seeing a fed Riven in the top lane and can work around her to focus on punishing that over-aggressive Jarvan TL;DR It's honestly not all that surprising as individual skill and toxicity tend to go hand-in-hand, and individual skill is what gets you past low rankings Edited April 6, 2015 by KosherKitten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I just find it troubling as to how people can make it to gold being so incredibly toxic. Toxicity =/= Skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbaltag Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Just to follow this up, I'm gonna put a list of items and what champs generally start with them. Infinity Edge: Ashe, Caitlyn, *Draven, *Ezreal, Graves, Jinx, Lucian, Miss Fortune, Quinn, Sivir, Tristana, Varus Bloodthirster: *Draven, *Kalista Trinity Force: Corki, *Ezreal, *Kog'maw, Blade of the Ruined King: *Kog'maw, Vayne Runaan's Hurricane: *Kalista *Indicates that the champion can successfully start with at least 2 different items. I'm still not sold on the runaans rush. While I get she gets so much attack speed from it and the ability to rend 3 people in teamfights you shouldn't be trying to teamfight that early. Especially when you have no bonus AD, crit, or lifesteal. I think bork is a much better start, or even shiv if you feel like doing something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocky Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'm still not sold on the runaans rush. While I get she gets so much attack speed from it and the ability to rend 3 people in teamfights you shouldn't be trying to teamfight that early. Especially when you have no bonus AD, crit, or lifesteal. I think bork is a much better start, or even shiv if you feel like doing something different. Read this: http://na.lolesports.com/articles/taking-oath-kalista-and-hurricane Basically, I think it's saying that runaan's gives Kalista the better ability to kite since she needs to do a whole autoattack to dash, so if you get attack speed, it will go faster meaning faster kitting and more rend stacks. Sorry, I don't play Kalista so my explanation might be iffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbaltag Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Read this: http://na.lolesports.com/articles/taking-oath-kalista-and-hurricane Basically, I think it's saying that runaan's gives Kalista the better ability to kite since she needs to do a whole autoattack to dash, so if you get attack speed, it will go faster meaning faster kitting and more rend stacks. Sorry, I don't play Kalista so my explanation might be iffy. I understand why people like the attack speed, but you still have to be close enough to auto attack someone to kite. and chances are unless you're fighting vayne they will be able to hit you as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 So I tried playing Sona yesterday. She's fun, but dayum, I thought Corki was squishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I think you're underestimating just quite how much damage Rend does on its own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocky Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I think you're underestimating just quite how much damage Rend does on its own this^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvan Nephilim Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Introducing Chroma Packs, skins for your skins~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 ...Eh... Could be okay I guess, so far doesn't seem to be anything special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Man, this is cool. The Blue Lucian one looks especially badass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvan Nephilim Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Man, this is cool. The Blue Lucian one looks especially badass Finally, validation for my Blucian build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You know, I really love Sion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Toxicity =/= Skill. Well, when the person completely refuses to work with anyone on the team who is around the Lulu, I doubt that their teamwork skills got them there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Of course the better you are on your own, the longer it will take your lack of team skills to make you fall off. Individual skill can make up for lack of team skill for a while. Obviously to keep climbing they'll need to learn teamwork, but they're probably still low enough that they can carry a good number of their games You also have to remember that most teams have bad teamwork at lower ratings anyways, so individual skill does generally matter more than teamwork (unless you miraculously get a full team with good teamwork, because then you will crush the world) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvan Nephilim Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You know, I really love Sion Then why don't you marry him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 ...Undead marriage rights aren't a thing yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Felix Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 For the record, if anyone is interested a scrubby player to their friends list, my username is discipleofarceus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Hmm... So I just played Shyvana JG. And I realyl can't decide whether I should go back to Devourer or go with the meta and build Cinderhulk... I did better with Devourer, but Cinderhulk /is/ better >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Cinderhulk is the obvious cool thing (whether that remains so after the nerfs has yet to be seen), but all in all the jungle enchantment you should get depends moreso on your team composition, how well you're doing, what you plan to do (fight or splitpush?) and the composition and builds of the enemy team. For now, I'd stick with Cinderhulk as sort of a cover-all enchantment as it, too, deals magic damage and is handy for splitpushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I'm surprised that nobody's spoken about the huge PBE update last night. Just gonna link cause mobile. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/04/47-pbe-update.html Lot of new skins, ARAM Updates, Chroma Packs, Texture Updates, Changes to Randuin's and Black Cleaver, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 It wasn't anything too special compared to the last few PBE cycles. That change to the Black Cleaver is really eye-catching, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 But the skins are so pretty. ;-; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Holy shit the new Cleaver. Lexi likey Tho, I dislike having less brutalizer upgrades ono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Garen is getting a lot of indirect love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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