DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I don't have anything that can survive Ciel's attacks, so I'm trying to return to Reborn City to train some new Pokemon but the guards aren't letting me through. Is there another way back to Reborn City maybe through the mountain? If so what's the route? Link to post Share on other sites
Vlado Vladimir 2 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Nope :/ You can't get back until you finish the current episode. You must gotta find a way to slap that Altaria Link to post Share on other sites
Skullgasher 0 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 There is a way. I'm actually in the Lapis Ward right now. I don't remember the exact place, but you have to go to those gates that're south of the bouffalant and tauros. I think they're called the Grand Gates. Check on your map Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Nope :/ You can't get back until you finish the current episode. You must gotta find a way to slap that Altaria You're kidding...then I'm stuck cause I haven't caught anything that can stand up to her flying types... Link to post Share on other sites
Commander 875 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Technically, you can't get back into Reborn City until E16, but at the end of each episode, the Game temporarily let's you go back to do some events and such. There are a bunch of Ice and Rock types available to you so you can use those to try and beat that Altaria. I mean like any Ice Type that's not Delibird would probably help you out a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
Sin! 17 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 ok. i think the problem here is that the OP cannot go back to e16 due to OP not being able to defeat ciel in battle. i think the solution here is to post your team and we can help you defeat ciel by working out the nooks and crannies of your team. hope this helps~ Link to post Share on other sites
Global Mods Ice Cream Sand Witch 1650 Posted November 3, 2015 Global Mods Share Posted November 3, 2015 There is a way. I'm actually in the Lapis Ward right now. I don't remember the exact place, but you have to go to those gates that're south of the bouffalant and tauros. I think they're called the Grand Gates. Check on your map You can't do that when you're locked out of the city until you finish the current episode. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Technically, you can't get back into Reborn City until E16, but at the end of each episode, the Game temporarily let's you go back to do some events and such. There are a bunch of Ice and Rock types available to you so you can use those to try and beat that Altaria. I mean like any Ice Type that's not Delibird would probably help you out a lot. I guess hopefully my current guys won't destroy them and I'll be able to catch something, I'm also not sure of how much EV training I'll be able to do if any at all though... Link to post Share on other sites
Skullgasher 0 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 You can't do that when you're locked out of the city until you finish the current episode.My bad. Didn't knowI guess hopefully my current guys won't destroy them and I'll be able to catch something, I'm also not sure of how much EV training I'll be able to do if any at all though...You got any sweepers? That's how I made it through Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 You got any sweepers? That's how I made it through Problem is that the Gym Leader out speeds and 1 Hit KO's most of my team even though we're about even level. Link to post Share on other sites
Skullgasher 0 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Problem is that the Gym Leader out speeds and 1 Hit KO's most of my team even though we're about even level. Really? What do you got on your team, if you don't mind me askin Link to post Share on other sites
Vlado Vladimir 2 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yeah you should just post your team in here so we can give you some advice Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Here's all the Pokemon that are ready for battle Blaziken 75 Scope Lens Speed Boost Lonely -Sky Uppercut -Brave Bird -Blaze Kick -Double Kick Gardevoir 70 Trace Modest -Psychic -Moonblast -Calm Mind -Shadow Sneak (kind of useless though) Noivern 72 Infiltrator Timid -Super Fang -Dragon Pulse -Flamethrower -Air Slash Gothitelle 68 Twisted Spoon Competitive Lonely -Psyshock -Trick Room -Charge Beam -Psychic Banette 68 Curse Body Quirky -Shadow Sneak -Sucker Punch -Phantom Force -Flash Heracross 73 Adamant Moxie -Close Combat -Megahorn -Arm Thrust -Rock Blast Roserade 72 Rose Incense Timid Poison Point -Giga Drain -Petal Dance -Toxic Spikes -Stun Spore Link to post Share on other sites
Skullgasher 0 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Pretty solid team. Could you describe how the battles usually go, like what part into the battle do things usually start going south? Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Pretty solid team. Could you describe how the battles usually go, like what part into the battle do things usually start going south? Usually around her 2nd Pokemon...Her first Togekiss takes a while but isn't too much of a problem, the problem is her Archeops just outspeeds and spams Rock Slide over and over which ends up 1 Hit KO almost my entire team and by the time I manage to kill it I'm down to 1 Pokemon... Link to post Share on other sites
Vlado Vladimir 2 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Don't you have the Shadow Ball Tm? SHould definetly use that over shadow sneak on Gardevoir Yeah Trick Room seems like your best bet... the thing is Gothitelle is super frail...do you happen to have a Solrock/Lunatone? Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Don't you have the Shadow Ball Tm? SHould definetly use that over shadow sneak on Gardevoir I would if it was available...Sadly TM 30 Shadow Ball is not within the game yet according to the Item guide... Link to post Share on other sites
biboo195 0 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 You have 2 ways to get out of Agate. 1. Strength glitch 2. Revert back to E14.5 and walk out the gate on the right. Link to post Share on other sites
Skullgasher 0 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Usually around her 2nd Pokemon...Her first Togekiss takes a while but isn't too much of a problem, the problem is her Archeops just outspeeds and spams Rock Slide over and over which ends up 1 Hit KO almost my entire team and by the time I manage to kill it I'm down to 1 Pokemon... Hm. I'd try getting a trick room to last a turn after killing togekiss and then getting a stun spore off on the aerodactyl. From there, I'd try to set up on Ciel with your Gardevoir Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 You have 2 ways to get out of Agate. 1. Strength glitch 2. Revert back to E14.5 and walk out the gate on the right. I don't know this glitch I'll have to look it up. I don't have 14.5 to revert to. Link to post Share on other sites
Vlado Vladimir 2 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Uhm I guess then your best chance is to get a Bronzor and a Graveler on route 3 and train them...use them in your battle instead of Gothitelle and Banette/Blaziken since Roserade can take a hit from Altaria (I think) and Stun Spore it. Using the Trick Room strategy should help you out, just spam Gyro Ball with Bronzong, Rock Slide/Blast with Golem and Heracross, then Moonblast that bulky piece of cotton that Altaria is. EDIT: Oh shit the Gliscor :S Uhm I think you should also get a Beartic(? Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hm. I'd try getting a trick room to last a turn after killing togekiss and then getting a stun spore off on the aerodactyl. From there, I'd try to set up on Ciel with your Gardevoir This is how I start out the battle.1. Roserade Stun Spore2. Switch to Gothitelle use Charge Beam to power up a few times healing if necessary.3. I've tried 2 different tactics...Use Trick Room when Togekiss is in the red, problem is due to being Paralyzed it goes first and spams Air Slash until Gothitelle is either fainted or Trick Room runs out.orDefeat Togekiss usually brings out Archeops, try to use Trick Room but Gothitelle is defeated by Rock Slide even at max health. Uhm I guess then your best chance is to get a Bronzor and a Graveler on route 3 and train them...use them in your battle instead of Gothitelle and Banette/Blaziken since Roserade can take a hit from Altaria (I think) and Stun Spore it.Using the Trick Room strategy should help you out, just spam Gyro Ball with Bronzong, Rock Slide/Blast with Golem and Heracross, then Moonblast that bulky piece of cotton that Altaria is.EDIT: Oh shit the Gliscor :S Uhm I think you should also get a Beartic(? Can they be found past Argate?Edit: She has a Gliscor too!? Let me guess Poison Heal Protect and Roost...I'll see if I can find a Beartic... Link to post Share on other sites
Skullgasher 0 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 This is how I start out the battle. 1. Roserade Stun Spore 2. Switch to Gothitelle use Charge Beam to power up a few times healing if necessary. 3. I've tried 2 different tactics... Use Trick Room when Togekiss is in the red, problem is due to being Paralyzed it goes first and spams Air Slash until Gothitelle is either fainted or Trick Room runs out. or Defeat Togekiss usually brings out Archeops, try to use Trick Room but Gothitelle is defeated by Rock Slide even at max health. Yea, at this point, I guess you could go out and get some new pokes. There's an event sneasel somewhere in the icy cave that would probably come in pretty handy. All you need is rock smash. There are a couple of decent rock pokemon after Agate city in the wild too, like Dwebble and Rhyhorn. Or, you could always grind your pokes up which would probably help Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLucario79 1 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yea, at this point, I guess you could go out and get some new pokes. There's an event sneasel somewhere in the icy cave that would probably come in pretty handy. All you need is rock smash. There are a couple of decent rock pokemon after Agate city in the wild too, like Dwebble and Rhyhorn I saw the Sneasel I just don't know if I can find it again hopefully I will...Rhyperior would be pretty good (wish I could get a Head Smash Rock Head Aggron instead though)... Link to post Share on other sites
Skullgasher 0 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I saw the Sneasel I just don't know if I can find it again hopefully I will...Rhyperior would be pretty good (wish I could get a Head Smash Rock Head Aggron instead though)... Yea. Ciel is just such a pain to beat. The only reason I made it was because of my sweepers. You could reteach your Blaziken Bulk Up, and get it to sweep by para haxing Ciel Link to post Share on other sites
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