OpalWardMusicFan Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Is Vulpix kinda lame? Mine is level 25 and only has Fire Spin as a damaging STAB move and can't take many hits... ._______. I remember in XY it got Flame Burst at level 23. o-o I am currently training it to beat the annoying bug gym. Any tips? (PS. I have zero idea on where to post this, move it if needed, please. Thanks.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enkhidu Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah... I kinda had the same problem, but now Vulpix learns Flame Burst at level 28, with that you'll have more chances to defeat Shelly (even more if you have another fire type pokemon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 movepools have been updated to ORAS, so yeah, vulpix learns flame burst at lvl 28 now. check out the serebii page for it; it has the full list of moves it can learn. (make sure you're looking at the ORAS list, too.) other than that, i would recommend that your vulpix's ability be drought. hopefully it already is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpalWardMusicFan Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 movepools have been updated to ORAS, so yeah, vulpix learns flame burst at lvl 28 now. check out the serebii page for it; it has the full list of moves it can learn. (make sure you're looking at the ORAS list, too.) other than that, i would recommend that your vulpix's ability be drought. hopefully it already is. It is Mild, Female, with Drought, and I have a Male Litleo with Rivalry and a Female Flash Fire Quilava as well, I NEED Flame Burst. Also, off topic, I know, but, is there a way I can upload my save file and have my HA Female Meowstic's ability fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSilentWinterxX Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Growlithe can also learn Flame Burst, at level 24 I believe, and it was a lifesaver for me against Shelly's gym. So, definitely invest in training it up for her if you don't want to spend time training up Vulpix. Also, invest in a Goldeen or any water type who has Water Veil as an ability or learns Aqua Ring by level up. Have it use Aqua Ring so it won't take burn damage from the burning field (and regain HP), and to help take out Anorith(Since fire won't kill Anorith). I used Emolga's Nuzzle to paralyze her Yanmega. It took me a lot of luck and working with the field to help me beat her. Took me three tries or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enkhidu Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Growlithe can also learn Flame Burst, at level 24 I believe, and it was a lifesaver for me against Shelly's gym. So, definitely invest in training it up for her if you don't want to spend time training up Vulpix. Also, invest in a Goldeen or any water type who has Water Veil as an ability or learns Aqua Ring by level up. Have it use Aqua Ring so it won't take burn damage from the burning field (and regain HP), and to help take out Anorith(Since fire won't kill Anorith). I used Emolga's Nuzzle to paralyze her Yanmega. It took me a lot of luck and working with the field to help me beat her. Took me three tries or so. Nope, level 28 for Growlithe too, I thought the same when I was about to challenge Shelly for like the fifth time again and both of the Pokemon I had that could learn Flame Burst needed level 28 (Vulpix and Growlithe). Edited March 14, 2015 by Absolute_Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSilentWinterxX Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Oh okay. I would also suggest Pansear since it does learn Flame Burst at level 22 (I just checked Bulbapedia), but it doesn't get many good moves on it's own, so it would need some support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpalWardMusicFan Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Oh okay. I would also suggest Pansear since it does learn Flame Burst at level 22 (I just checked Bulbapedia), but it doesn't get many good moves on it's own, so it would need some support. Which has higher SP ATK and Speed? Vulpix, Growlithe, or Pansear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostelle Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Growlithe is a better Pokémon move wise, Pansear is pretty trash. Vulpix is in the center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpalWardMusicFan Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Here is my team: Level 34 Shiny Female HA Meowstic, Level 32 HA Female Pachirisu Level 33 HA Female Quilava Level 33 Male Litleo, Rivalry Level 7 HA Male Budew (for later game, just caught it and I am training it.) Level 25 HA Female Vulpix Should I swap for my Justified Growlithe, use my Frisk shiny female Noibat, or raise a water type? Edited March 14, 2015 by OpalWardMusicFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kithros Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Until it gets at least flame burst yeah Vulpix kind of sucks - but once it gets flame burst it's been incredibly good for me. Flame Burst is like an instant win against Shelly, and once it gets flamethrower/fire blast + evolving it hits insanely hard. Arcanine might have a better variety of moves, but I prefer Ninetales over Arcanine still - with sunny day + STAB neutral fire moves hit harder than super effective moves anyway, which kind of makes coverage largely irrelevant. Any move that doesn't hit for super effective against something that resists fire is almost completely pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpalWardMusicFan Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Until it gets at least flame burst yeah Vulpix kind of sucks - but once it gets flame burst it's been incredibly good for me. Flame Burst is like an instant win against Shelly, and once it gets flamethrower/fire blast + evolving it hits insanely hard. Arcanine might have a better variety of moves, but I prefer Ninetales over Arcanine still - with sunny day + STAB neutral fire moves hit harder than super effective moves anyway, which kind of makes coverage largely irrelevant. Any move that doesn't hit for super effective against something that resists fire is almost completely pointless. Issue here is, I started with Cyndaquil, so I was curious, though you make a good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiri Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Oh? I thought I recall Ame saying that the Drought Vulpix has been moved post Shelly? Is this for the next episode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpalWardMusicFan Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Oh? I thought I recall Ame saying that the Drought Vulpix has been moved post Shelly? Is this for the next episode? I didn't realize there was a patch until AFTER I caught it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qaaz Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Oh? I thought I recall Ame saying that the Drought Vulpix has been moved post Shelly? Is this for the next episode? No she said that there is no way to give Vulpix and Fire Stone before Shelly so no early Fire Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Growlithe can also learn Flame Burst, at level 24 I believe, and it was a lifesaver for me against Shelly's gym. So, definitely invest in training it up for her if you don't want to spend time training up Vulpix. Also, invest in a Goldeen or any water type who has Water Veil as an ability or learns Aqua Ring by level up. Have it use Aqua Ring so it won't take burn damage from the burning field (and regain HP), and to help take out Anorith(Since fire won't kill Anorith). I used Emolga's Nuzzle to paralyze her Yanmega. It took me a lot of luck and working with the field to help me beat her. Took me three tries or so. If it can't be fixed with fire, you're not using enough. Shelly will burn, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrromanis Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Get a Cammerupt and lava plume/rock slide all her pokemon! Numel gets flame burst too if you don't want to hit your teamates with lava plume, but quilava benefits more with it's flash fire ability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 It's fine for a strong Pokemon to have a lame period. The most well-balanced Pokemon from a game design perspective are all kind of lame at some point of their existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiri Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 No she said that there is no way to give Vulpix and Fire Stone before Shelly so no early Fire Stone Oh... so she meant that there will be no Ninetales before Shelly. But still, Vulpix itself is quite a fine solution to Shelly thanks to her field effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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