Daniel Blackworth

February 17, 2019

51 minutes ago, cicada said:

The simplest of explanations is that I didn’t know, at the time, that Lykos was town. I tried to use information gathered to work with Cass (since I assumed she would shoot one and I’d investigate the other). I didn’t want to defend one over the other because I didn’t want to risk getting shot by Cass.

Also, Astra, Nano’s report contains one mafia member luckily.

I mean, you knew Cass was going to shoot one, like I'm probably sure most of us knew, Lykos was going to be shot. Taking this into account, only you and Alaris would have been left the next day phase, so if you knew you were town and you'll know the alignment of Lykos the next day, why still investigate within Nano's trio?

Also, I'm not sure why you're talking about defending one over the other given this context.

February 17, 2019

Also, to everyone, do try to read all posts. I know a lot of it are glaringly large text walls, but you might miss something that could help you in making a judgement.

Just to emphasize this query to @cicada

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Also ... one question. By process of elimination (from Nano's information): Lykos isn't a mafia and you know you aren't mafia. Why investigate Alaris at all? I mean, even if you weren't the cop, you'd know Alaris was mafia.

IMO you could have used your investigation (if it is real to better use by investigating someone else)

February 17, 2019

6 hours ago, Alaris said:

I'm the party host and I haven't thrown the party yet. Basically my NA nullifies the rest of NAs of that night, including kills. I was saving it for a possible lylo situation, but if you wish to prove me, I can just throw the party next night.

... IMO, your claim is the same as Nicki's which is a very safe claim and can only be proven in very specific situations.

6 hours ago, cicada said:

That...seems rather strange.

I find you as Mafia and you want to get me lynched, then you claim Party Host and ask us to wait until the next day phase? That smells rather fishy if you ask me... I don't know what everyone else thinks.

Actually, this does make sense.

6 hours ago, Bok Choi said:

One thing that just came to me is the possible win conditions of the third party. Assuming that a cult does exist, I was wondering if there are any situations (you did say in 'regular' games after all) where the cult doesn't have to be eliminated for the town to win. More importantly, is it possible that the game would end once we eliminate the maf, even though there are third parties still alive.

Exactly this. It would feel odd for a cult to exist because they aren't clashing with the town at all. If the town doesn't need to eliminate the cult (if it exists), then that would mean the town and cult can win together ... which would be really weird and unbalanced imo.

For this reason, I'm still convinced that a cult doesn't exist despite Eric and Lykos' statement.

6 hours ago, Newt said:

TLDR: My theory is that the cult really existed, and Amber was the leader of it, but when Amber died all of the cult members were the former last remaining mafia, and for the sake of having a balanced game, decided to either have them back to their original roles or made one of them the cult leader.

Lemme explain to you then, why it's better to lynch Alaris.

[Scenarios]

So let me ask you another question Dive, in another situation. Let's suppose that no matter what, we have to lynch one of them, without other choices, but both are town. Would you rather lose the cop or the party host?

It feels unbalanced IMO to suddenly change the rules like that. The former (going back to their previous role) is heavily discouraged because this would break the game, especially if there were town in the cult. The latter (made one of them the cult leader) is also heavily discouraged because this is so gamebreaking that it's impossible for a cult to not win.

IMO your scenarios do make sense, and I'd lynch a party host claim over a cop claim in a non-contextual sitatuation all the time. However, considering their contributions, I feel like Nicki is less trustworthy compared to Alaris (with the reasons I gave out in one of my first posts of this day).

To your question, I'd rather lose the party host, but honestly, that's only a situation and we're not inserting real people and their behavior into it. IMO both are suspicious, but I think I'd prefer to go with my initial convictions for now.

Also, one of them is confirmed Mafia (with Nano's info), so I don't think said situation is applicable in any case here.

6 hours ago, cicada said:

It may sound sketchy that I'm voting for a mafia member over finding the cult leader, if there is one, but as I mentioned before, if there really is only one more mafia member left (due to others being culted), we have an extra day phase to find the cult leader. If we lynched someone today who wasn't maf or cult, town would probably lose by the next day phase since mafia could kill town and the cult would recruit someone and town would then insta lose either by Day 4 or Night 4 due to being outnumbered.

I find it odd that Alaris claims Party Host, since it's a role that no one else would think of claiming, and asks us to give him an extra phase to "prove" his ability, when really he is trying to buy time as mafia. The things he's been accusing me of are things that he's exactly doing. Besides, I have doubts about his claim since Cass received info from Nano that stated Lykos, myself, or Alaris were mafia. I know I'm not maf, and we now know that Lykos wasn't mafia. The last person it comes down to is Alaris, which I have now proved by outing myself as Cop stating his alignment. I had doubts that Alaris couldn't be mafia since someone could have framed him last night when I went to check him, but upon rethinking about this....if that was the case, he wouldn't have come up on Nano's report previously.

It's possible that there either wasn't a doctor to begin with (which is kind of weird), or the doctor has since been culted. Both scenarios seem kind of plausible, which means Alaris would have been lying about being stabbed or Amber (or whoever the cult leader is) culted the doctor on the same night he got "stabbed". This means that, if there's a mafia member remaining after Alaris, I'll probably die the next night phase if the doctor is no longer around.

Just a reminder, town doesn't lose if a cult outnumbers them because "town doesn't have to eliminate the third party to win." Going by this, if a cult wins by outnumbering town, it contradicts the win condition given.

Also ... one question. By process of elimination: Lykos isn't a mafia and you know you aren't mafia. Why investigate Alaris at all? I mean, even if you weren't the cop, you'd know Alaris was mafia.

IMO you could have used your investigation (if it is real to better use by investigating someone else)

The former situation (doctor not existing) is weird because of the existence of a stabber while the latter (culted doctor) is unlikely because it would contradict possible alignments IMO.

5 hours ago, andracass said:

So I'm making a theoretical list of roles.

There are a grand total of 10 Town/Kong roles, and if we include the playable characters from the 3 DKC games and DK64, we get:
Donkey (me)
Diddy (Lykos)

Dixie

Kiddie

Lanky (Nano)
Tiny

Chunky

This is already 7 kongs. On top of that, we've got some more who have died or aren't playable:

Wrinkly (Jace)

Cranky/Funky (astra)

and finally

Squawks or Swanky

and yikes I had to look up who swanky was.

If the list here is right then literally only one of the roles are possible, and squawks is not a kong.

I read the wiki and there were more Kongs than anything. How did you summarize it to 7?

1 hour ago, Bok Choi said:

Or the mafia collectively decided NOT to stab anyone night 0 so they could coordinate Alaris' credibility. The stab didn't necessarily fail, it just didn't happen. This way, Alaris gains town cred, and the healer gets tied up healing someone that doesn't need it night 1.

This also is a possibility, but idk why Alaris would do such a risky move. I feel like he's more cautious as a person, but that's just my opinion.

February 16, 2019

Before I make a statement regarding the more recent posts, I reread the entire Day 2 and here's my analysis inclusive of only said day (without taking into consideration their roles and what they said today)

On 2/10/2019 at 2:20 AM, DigitalAmber said:

2. Alaris was indeed stabbed, I am now bleeding like he was. This is annoyingly tying our doctor down.

I remember saying last day that Amber and Alaris could have been conspiring, but that at the same time, it would be a risky move for both of them.

If we assume Alaris and Amber were indeed conspiring and they were lying, this would mean that Alaris was probably recruited by the cult on N0 and Amber is a member/leader/was recruited the night after. (If the cult does exist; also they can't be mafia unless both were recruited)

However, this would also mean that Nicki's statement on Alaris as Krusha is invalidated; this could also mean Alaris was Krusha, and Nicki is actually mafia and Alaris is a cult member, and they're both clashing it out. I've done this before as a mafia turned cult, so it's not impossible.

On 2/10/2019 at 6:32 PM, Jason Grace said:

Astra - Hooky
L'Belle - L'Belle, cass (2)
Jace - Jace, Nano4, Eric, Digital Amber
Eric - Bok Choi
Nano - Alaris
Hooky - LykosHand, Astra

Alaris voted for Nano while Nicki did not vote. Eric (confirmed mafia) voted for Jace while Amber (confirmed TP) voted the same.

On 2/10/2019 at 9:31 PM, Alaris said:

Most scummy right now: Astra (repeated what had been said), Eric (random vote on the worst possible option).

Slightly scummy: nicki (her post seems odd to me, because she seems like she's making an extra effort to contribute).

I feel like his suspicion on Eric is original, not counting my suspicion on him before. This is one of the reasons why I believe in Alaris because he gave out reasons why Eric is scummy.

On 2/10/2019 at 11:14 PM, cicada said:

I appreciate the scumread on me, but really I'm trying to contribute more as I realise I was slacking in previous games. I'm also trying to think of what could and couldn't be roles in the game as I've never actually played Donkey Kong and I don't really know who any of these characters (besides Donkey Kong lmao) are.

But reading through everything, I feel that, at the moment, Eric and Astra are the only people catching my eye

I don't know why, but I feel like she's putting emphasis on her lack of knowledge of Donkey Kong for some reason.

Also, because of the timing of the post, others have said their piece on Eric and Astra, but I feel like she could have made some effort to tell why she caught them in her eye rather than simply bw on Astra.

Both Alaris and Nicki voted Astra over Eric, and I find this kind of weird from an outsider's standpoint.

On 2/11/2019 at 12:40 AM, cicada said:

[unvote] Astra -- well, if Cass can confirm that Astra did give her an item, I don't see why we should keep the vote on them. I'm not gonna put a vote on Eric just yet since I feel that Cass' pressure vote is enough for now... but if he doesn't defend himself, then I guess I'll vote for him.

This feels like lowkey defending Eric because she just unvotes Astra and suddenly hesitates in voting for Eric. Compared to how she immediately voted for Astra, this seems odd, like she's waiting for Eric to defend himself if she were mafia. "I guess I'll vote for him" smells like a mafia's indecisiveness.

On 2/11/2019 at 1:11 AM, LykosHand said:

i don't know if someone knows this but there is a cult leader in this game and i will regret this but i'm giving food to you all, so yeah that's my role.

On 2/11/2019 at 1:27 AM, LykosHand said:

And well knowing the word "converted" makes me think to a possible cult leader, or if not a cult leader maybe one of the mafia people can convert one person to the mafia team. That's what i think.

Here's Lykos first three statements about the cult (I accidentally erased the second one T_T, but it says it was something he knew from his role at the start or something close to that)

Idk but he only knows the word "converted", not "cult leader". This doesn't entirely mean the cult does exist. For all we know, a Yakuza/Neighborizer exists as they use the word converted as well.

On 2/11/2019 at 7:51 PM, Alaris said:

Oh I had forgotten I was still voting Astra

[Unvote] Astra

[Eliminate] Eric

Alaris voted for Eric iirc at a time where he was almost unsavable. It's suspicious that he forgot he was "still voting Astra" because it feels like he shifted his vote when he knew Eric would not be able to survive anymore.

On 2/11/2019 at 8:28 PM, GenEric said:

alaris and amber werent lying

i stabbed them with my 5 inch ~~dong~~ blade

also lykos was right

there is a cult

only one mafia remains if i die

There are three important statements here. They could all be true, but at the same time, none could be true.

On 2/12/2019 at 12:05 AM, cicada said:

[eliminate] GenEric.

I'm glad Cass was able to receive some information, at least it proves that Nano's report had higher priority than the maf kill.

Nicki appears at a really convenient time to vote for Eric, specifically 3 votes after Alaris voted for him. The same situation I told about Alaris can be said about Nicki's vote (giving up Eric because nothing could save him)

On 2/12/2019 at 12:49 AM, LykosHand said:

@andracass In N0 i gave two bananas to Newt, in N1 i gave one banana to Nicki and the other one to Alaris.

I know that there is a cult leader because i would lose my ability if i will be converted.

Lykos never gave us the full explanation about his knowledge T_T

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Conclusion: Both Alaris and Nicki had suspicious posts from the previous day and their initial vote and timing of the vote were also suspicious.

It's not impossible both aren't town, but it's more likely that at least one town exists between them. Or I might be biased over Alaris' amount of contribution in comparison to Nicki's on Day 1 and 2.

February 16, 2019

I vote [Guilty]

February 16, 2019

3 hours ago, Newt said:

I agree with Nicki, tbh

Since the start of the game I've been suspecting Alaris.

And if he is not mafia, we can just lynch Nicki next day right?

[Eliminate] Alaris

For what reasons have you been suspecting him?

1 hour ago, Newt said:

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Causes

Bleeding arises due to either traumatic injury, underlying medical condition, or a combination.

Traumatic injury

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Abrasion - Also called a graze, this is caused by transverse action of a foreign object against the skin, and usually does not penetrate below the epidermis.

Excoriation - In common with Abrasion, this is caused by mechanical destruction of the skin, although it usually has an underlying medical cause.

Hematoma - Caused by damage to a blood vessel that in turn causes blood to collect under the skin.

Laceration - Irregular wound caused by blunt impact to soft tissue overlying hard tissue or tearing such as in childbirth. In some instances, this can also be used to describe an incision.

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Puncture Wound - Caused by an object that penetrated the skin and underlying layers, such as a nail, needle or knife.

Contusion - Also known as a bruise, this is a blunt trauma damaging tissue under the surface of the skin.

Crushing Injuries - Caused by a great or extreme amount of force applied over a period of time. The extent of a crushing injury may not immediately present itself.

Ballistic Trauma - Caused by a projectile weapon such as a firearm. This may include two external wounds (entry and exit) and a contiguous wound between the two.

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Medical condition

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Intravascular changes - changes of the blood within vessels (e.g. ↑ blood pressure, ↓ clotting factors)

Intramural changes - changes arising within the walls of blood vessels (e.g. aneurysms, dissections, AVMs, vasculitides)

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Platelets are small blood components that form a plug in the blood vessel wall that stops bleeding. Platelets also produce a variety of substances that stimulate the production of a blood clot. One of the most common causes of increased bleeding risk is exposure to nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). The prototype for these drugs is aspirin, which inhibits the production of thromboxane. NSAIDs inhibit the activation of platelets, and thereby increase the risk of bleeding. The effect of aspirin is irreversible; therefore, the inhibitory effect of aspirin is present until the platelets have been replaced (about ten days). Other NSAIDs, such as "ibuprofen" (Motrin) and related drugs, are reversible and therefore, the effect on platelets is not as long-lived.

There are several named coagulation factors that interact in a complex way to form blood clots, as discussed in the article on coagulation. Deficiencies of coagulation factors are associated with clinical bleeding. For instance, deficiency of Factor VIII causes classic hemophilia A while deficiencies of Factor IX cause "Christmas disease"(hemophilia B). Antibodies to Factor VIII can also inactivate the Factor VII and precipitate bleeding that is very difficult to control. This is a rare condition that is most likely to occur in older patients and in those with autoimmune diseases. Another common bleeding disorder is Von Willebrand disease. It is caused by a deficiency or abnormal function of the "Von Willebrand" factor, which is involved in platelet activation. Deficiencies in other factors, such as factor XIII or factor VII are occasionally seen, but may not be associated with severe bleeding and are not as commonly diagnosed.

In addition to NSAID-related bleeding, another common cause of bleeding is that related to the medication, warfarin ("Coumadin" and others). This medication needs to be closely monitored as the bleeding risk can be markedly increased by interactions with other medications. Warfarin acts by inhibiting the production of Vitamin K in the gut. Vitamin K is required for the production of the clotting factors, II, VII, IX, and X in the liver. One of the most common causes of warfarin-related bleeding is taking antibiotics. The gut bacteria make vitamin K and are killed by antibiotics. This decreases vitamin K levels and therefore the production of these clotting factors.

Deficiencies of platelet function may require platelet transfusion while deficiencies of clotting factors may require transfusion of either fresh frozen plasma or specific clotting factors, such as Factor VIII for patients with hemophilia.

Also can someone remind me why the fuck are we lynching the cop while Alaris didn't really do anything helpful to us

Why are you believing the cop claim so easily when it can be falsified considering the investigation results stated/given?

21 minutes ago, Bok Choi said:

Addressing Eric first, the question is whether or not he's telling the truth. I think he is. Eric would really only have one reason to lie, which is to mislead us from the number of maf members still alive. But making us think there are less maf members than are actually alive is not so useful. If we play intelligently, the number of maf left over wouldn't matter as long as we consider all possibilities, not to mention we'd find out the truth as soon as the next mafia dies.
IMO there's no good reason why Eric would lie about that.

Also keep in mind the first person to bring up the cult in the first place was Lykos. Lykos, as the 'banana giver' would be even less likely to lie about the existence of a cult, regardless of how he knew about it. (If he didn't know there was a cult, I heavily doubt he would blatantly lie saying there is one).

Nicki's roleclaim as a non-Kong character doesn't help her case, but let's assume she's lying about the roleclaim for the sake of argument.
Her blatant claim gets Alaris lynched today, and then what? She's killed at night by a vig, or best case scenario she's lynched the next day. Even if Eric is lying and there are still two or three maf members left, Nicki's claim would still be an eye-for-an-eye situation, and would be a terrible mafia strategy. (Keep in mind if Eric is lying about a cult, the town still outnumbers maf by enough that Nicki's strategy would not guarantee a win).
So, assuming Nicki is telling the truth about the roleclaim, it's quite telling that the only people who argue against her vehemently deny that the cult exists. Are both Dive and Alaris culted? Are only one of them culted? I might need to sit on that thought and see responses before I decide.
(Alaris mentions other cult members should have died, but in a closed setup, this might not be the case. I know for one that my role is definitely modified from existing traditional roles)

I want to as @cicada some questions though to clear this up maybe
1. Do you see Third Parties as town, maf, or third parties
2. And do you know whether your investigation happens before or after the cult recruits someone (Assuming there is a cult).

Of course there's one more possibility that was brought up, which is that Nicki is a culted Mafia trying to bring down Alaris. Also very possible, but this post is running really long so I'll say that this leaves Dive as an innocent town, Alaris as Eric's last remaining maf, and Nicki as a cult member. Not a whole lot of evidence for this, but it's a possibility.

I also want to add I did like 2 minutes of research about the donkey kong characters, and the character that Amber died as, Kalimba, is only a Tiki Tribe miniboss. I find it doubtful that Seal would include a Tiki miniboss and not the Final Tiki boss of Donkey Kong Country Returns. Just saying. This points to Kongs being turned into Tikis upon being culted, and that in fact, Amber IS NOT THE LEADER OF THE CULT

Yup, I can agree there isn't much good reason to do that, but if he can temporarily mislead the town, I think that could delay the mafia's extinction and place the attention on other less important things. There's also a possibility he just did it to troll town. I find little incentive for him to tell the truth.

We have no idea how Lykos found out about a cult, but he might have been mistaken/misinterpreted it. I'm not sure.

Nicki lying about her claim is objectively a bad move for mafia IMO in a normal context, but this situation makes it a *not* bad action. With Nano's information to Cass, either Alaris or Nicki is mafia, and it's simply an eventuality for either of them to be lynched. By delaying the lynch, Nicki helps her mafia mates and reduces town's power by one.

How did you progress to saying that I'm town, Alaris a Mafia, and Nicki a Third Party?

Yeah, I did that same research earlier and I also find it weird Kalimba is not the main leader of the tribe. However, I'm conflicted about that as the wording of the Third Party in the Opening Post and Amber's death scene in Seal's post implies there's only 1 Third Party ever. Additionally, Seal has told me when I asked him that the town doesn't need to kill the Third Party to win. Cults in regular games must be killed by town for them to win. As such, I came up with the thought that there must not be a cult in the game or if it does exist (heavily unlikely), town doesn't necessarily need to eliminate it. This clause can be seen in the winning condition of town in the opening post.

Also, @Alaris, can you tell us what your role does and your actions in the past few nights?

February 16, 2019

Just now, Bazaro said:

Gees, any form of aggression gets defended quick these days. No one even wants to pressure vote anymore, until now. And wow, what a bandwagon!

I said before, I'm a Veteran. I don't know if there's 2 of them or if Cicada actually is one or not, but it seems likely enough.

Since we have to vote someone I'll just [eliminate] Bazaro, I guess, not like I can stop a bandwagon this far in.

Wait, what? As far as I remember, the Veteran is a Unique Role. This means that there can be no duplicates to the role because it would make the game unbalanced. One of you must be lying about being a veteran, and I think it's more likely you're the one lying about it, both based on who visited the veteran and died and the contributions given.

February 16, 2019

TL;DR from these interactions and taking into account their previous behavior, I think that Nicki is mafia. Additionally, I believe that a cult doesn't exist in this game.

February 16, 2019

12 minutes ago, cicada said:

2. It’s stuff I’ve done before that’s worked in the past (remember that game on PC where I claimed Cop and so did you?). I’m not really sure why we’d have both Psychic and Cop, maybe balance reasons? I don’t know... I honestly can’t answer that.

I know that the original post says the town consists of the Kong family, but I don’t know who is in the Kong family... is it not possible Squawks is their pet parrot or something..? Surely those who are town would be able to clarify if they’re not a Kong but are town.

On #2, that game was the only example. As far as I remember, you claimed to bait the actual cop. However, you've been mafia several times here and in other sites, and I don't recall you employing such a tactic in any other game.

Moreover, I do think you know that it's not that good balance to have these two roles in the same game together unless there are other roles that could balance it, and I don't think that's the case.

The last bolded statement sounds like you're unsure about your role character even though you apparently did some searches on the characters of Donkey Kong.

11 minutes ago, cicada said:

Oof 2nd post since I forgot that there was a second part to your first question (sorry!).

I investigated Cass at the start since it’s hard to read her and I wanted to make sure. Amber kind of rubbed me off the wrong way during day 1, so I investigated him out of curiosity. I had nothing to go off on N0 so it’s unfortunate that Cass was basically the important role.

Elaborate how Amber "rubbed you off the wrong way." It seems like such a general statement coming from you.

7 minutes ago, Alaris said:

This tactic wouldn't work. Like at all. If you claim cop and you don't appear dead in the two following days, chances are that you're mafia. That's the usual case, at least.

Yeah I agree, but Seal specifically said: "Digital Amber is dead, he was Kalimba from the Tiki Tak Tribe, the unknown third party". So Amber was the only third party.

So, in any case, claiming cop is a decent last-resort strategy.

I agree with the bolded statements. Also, I just realized that the wording "the unknown third party" indicates that there's only one third party. If there were more such as in the case of a cult, it would have been "a third party" or simply "third party."

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With both of you answering my questions, here's stuff I know.

1. On night zero, I targeted Digital Amber with my ability. My action failed. This may or may not be related to his role, or the existence of other specific roles that could lead to a failed action.

2. The Cat Lady (still unsure if it's a Cat Lady because it wasn't stated, only that someone knocked on my door) tried to visit, but I didn't let them in. This means this role is still alive and active.

3. This is the win condition of town as stated in the Opening Post:

"The Townsfolk/The Kong Family - The good folk, they win by killing all mafia/Kremling Krew members. This faction consists of 10 members."

I've confirmed it with Seal that the Town only needs to kill the mafia, not the Third Party. This means the existence of a cult is less likely or impossible (or if it does exist, it doesn't necessarily harm the town; unlikely however). It's more likely that the Third Party is non-hostile and would not harm/can win with the town.

February 16, 2019

@cicada

I have a few questions:

1. Why did you investigate Alaris last night? Also, why Amber and Cass, as well?

2. Why would you claim as Mafia at the start? That's basically suicide. Also, why would you be a Cop when we have a Psychic already who works similarly?

3. If Kalimba was the leader of said tribe, would it not be reason enough for them to be the cult leader if there really was a cult?

4. Why did you change your statement from being a role cop to just a cop?

@Alaris

I have some questions too:

1. What Kong are you? (The name of your character)

2. How were you notified about being stabbed? How were you notified about being healed? (Simply paraphrase)

3. What do you think Amber's role was?

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I have some information that could help the town, but I'll reveal it after you answer these questions.

Also @andracass how were you able to receive information from Nano?

February 16, 2019

4 minutes ago, cicada said:

I’m not exactly a ‘role’ cop, I just know their identity. Alaris is Krusha btw. I’m not sure what else to say, I’m being honest. I’ve never played Donkey Kong in my life and have only looked up myself since I wanted to know who they were. I knew Donkey and Diddy but nobody else. You can trust me or you can’t, but either way if we don’t lynch Alaris today, town will lose definitely.

Hmm, fair. Did Amber's identity register as Kalimba or not when you investigated him?

Also, if this would be true, this would mean that Alaris lied about being stabbed, as well as, Amber and they conspired about it. However, what makes me doubt your claim is your voting pattern and behavior last day phase as it has been giving me scummy vibes with your bw vote on Astra and lack of constructive contribution.

February 16, 2019

5 minutes ago, cicada said:

Alright, guess what? My name is Squawks and I am the town aligned role cop. I visited Alaris and found out that he is part of the Kemling Krew. The problem with this? Eric stated there was one left, with another one being culted. We need to find the cult leader, because town will soon be outnumbered (I think it’s actually day 3. I visited Cass N0, Amber N1 - he got culted between N0 and N1 btw, and Alaris N2? So that’d leave us with 9 people left: 1 mafia according to Eric, 3 cultists with the death of Amber, 5 townies). With this info, we lynch Alaris today and hopefully we have enough time to find and lynch the cult leader before the famine kicks in! ~~There’s also the offchance that Amber was the cult leader btw, but I’m unsure since he’s the only one who died.~~

I am choosing to reveal myself now because Eric stated there was only one mafia member since the other got culted.

[eliminate] Alaris.

I don't know why, but I find myself suspecting you more because of this post.

First, you're the town aligned "role" cop, but you're just saying that Alaris is a part of the Kremling Krew, insteaf of telling us what his "role" is supposed to be.

Two, you're believing a mafia's statement of all things. I remember you've deceived others as mafia too, so I don't know why you're suddenly trusting his statement, when for all we know, he lied and made up things.

Third, your choices for investigations are really convenient because you don't have to tell us what the role of those two you also investigated are.

Fourth, how do we know a cult exists? We only "know" that because of what Lykos and Eric said, but from what they said, I'm not convinced that it's the objective truth.

For now, I think you're mafia. [Eliminate] cicada

February 16, 2019

Astra [0] - ~~Hooky, Alaris, Cass, L'Belle, Cicada, Lykos~~
Eric [10, total value 11]- Jason, Bok, Cass, Amber, Alaris, Lykos, Newt, Astra, Cicada, L'Belle
Cicada [1] - Lia
Lykos [1] - ~~Newt~~, Eric
Alaris [1] - Hooky

These were the votes from yesterday.

I'll share my thoughts in a moment.

February 16, 2019

I feel like Lia's town, as well. I think that her opinion on not voting Amine is justified. On the other hand, I don't particularly feel that Baz is town because from what I've seen, he has hardly contributed to the discussion. He may be too busy to do so, but I think he could have tried better than simply reacting to other people's posts and following a bandwagon on an inactive player.

[Vote] Bazaro

February 15, 2019

Just a note to those who might not have read it, you may still sign-up anytime while the event is still ongoing.

February 15, 2019

Poll #1: Newt

Good day, Reborn Mafians! Today is the opening day of the event Choose Your Roles! For the first poll of this event, the list randomizer has determined Newt to be the subject of this poll. I highly encourage you to vote on what role suits Newt best. Great thanks!

P.S Please do read the guidelines and FAQs to know the regulations of voting and the what not.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1EwV8GX1GFrk2Q6t34Rms5RrtQHJGz-SWpVRebieMIGA/edit?chromeless=1

You have 48 hours to vote until this poll closes.

February 14, 2019

9 minutes ago, Lord Drakyle said:

A hunch huh, enough reason to vote someone for lynching in a desperate time like this? if Amine gets lynched and flips town if you are still alive i will vote you to follow him to the grave, I don't rely on a hunch

On that note i do think the veteran at the very least should roleclaim so there isn't more town dying from investigating them with that in mind @Jason Grace If you agree with this view would you mind sharing your thoughts on who our popular veteran is?

L'Belle, Amber, Jace, and Newt all died from visiting the Veteran. This means the Veteran must be someone worth visiting (investigated, spied, and distracted). I think that this Veteran is Nicki for the following reasons:

(1) Among all the players, she's the one who is most experienced in Town of Salem.

(2) She has a good level of playing as mafia. It'd be best to investigate/spy her right from the start while the mafia block her from putting her ability to good use.

(3) All of these players like/are associated with Nicki to a certain extent, and most often, players target those whom they know of in the early phases of a game.

February 14, 2019

22 minutes ago, Bazaro said:

But if Hypurr was mafia, how would they be able to tell their friends to kill Bean while jailed?

I doubt killing Bean was a pre-meditated murder. Most likely, it was just a more or less random killing, and he happened to coincidentally be a doctor.

6 minutes ago, CrimsonDragon21 said:

I am not sure what you want me to tell you tbh. But if you know how Hypurr and Bean interacted with each other you might well get how i impersonated him.

For the contents of it. I just asked him that he should tell me his role and after that i questioned him, if it really is his role. After that i just asked him to protect me. (i was a bit inactive and couldn't ask more)

Oh, I see. I thought you had a thorough interrogation and had communicated more aside from knowing his role. I would have asked if there were any particularly suspicious statements to be taken into consideration.

February 14, 2019

@CrimsonDragon21 I've been reading up on the roles and it appears that it's entirely possible for Hypurr to be a Doctor. However, the chances of that happening are arguably slim. I think that you should tell us more about your interactions, so we have better information on whether Hypurr is telling the truth/lying.

Also, following up on what Kiet said, the Veteran is a Unique Role because having more than one would upset the balance of the game. So, yeah, this Veteran is extremely popular, and going by who died, I have an idea who this Veteran is.

February 12, 2019

In line with the upcoming Season 3 Finale, the moderators will be designing a game to usher the end of the season and the beginning of the next one. As per tradition, the theme for Season Finale games has been the implementation of members of the Reborn Mafia Club as the role characters.

For this season, we have come up with a special twist: Reborn Mafia Club members have the opportunity to influence the roles and set-up of the game.

What is Choose Your Roles?

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In Choose Your Roles, a poll will be posted every two real time days. The poll will be posted at 5:00 PM EST on a given day and end at the same time after two days.

For every poll, one of the members will be the subject of the poll. Members of the club are encouraged to vote in the said poll.

Contents of the Poll:

(1) What alignment should [Player Name] be?

(2) What role should [Player Name] be?

(3) Why do you think so? (Optional)

Example Answers (for guide purposes):

(1) What alignment should Alex be? Town

(2) What role should Alex be? Templar

(3) Why do you think so? I feel like he's better at being a town player than a mafia player, and that he's decent at generating discussion.

After the poll has ended, the results will be tallied. The role with the most number of votes will have a higher likelihood of being used for the game. However, in the case of imbalances in game design, the succeeding roles will be utilized.

The results of the poll will be confidential until the end of the game.

Frequently Asked Questions

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(1) How can I be a part of this event / be eligible for being a subject of a poll?

- You may simply join by commenting your interest down below.

(2) Where will the poll be hosted?

- The poll will be hosted on a Google-managed poll organizer. The links to each individual poll will be given via both this thread and the announcement channel.

(3) Can I still join the event even if it has already begun?

- Yes. You may do so by commenting in the thread and tagging me, specifically.

(4) Do I need to vote in every poll?

- No. However, you are encouraged to vote in as many poll as possible.

(5) By being a subject in the poll, will it be a guarantee that there will be a role with my name on the finale game?

- Unfortunately, no. The inclusion of your role is dependent on the number of players who will be participating in the game. As such, you are encouraged to participate in the game to give more opportunities to more members.

(6) When will the Season 3 Finale game be organized?

- We are still discussing on this at present.

(7) How will the polls be ordered? Who goes first, second, etc.?

- We will be randomizing the order of participants (initial batch). Participants who join while the event is underway will follow a first-come, first-served basis.

(8.a) Do the roles have to be based on an already existing role?

- No. You may create an original role; however, such roles have a lesser likelihood of being voted for. As such, you might consider letting other people know your suggestion.

(8.b) How do I vote for a custom role?

- Simply answer the question "What role should (Player Name) be?" with the custom role name then insert the role description in the question "Why?"

(9) Can I encourage other people to vote with me (have the same vote as yours)?

- Yes. However, blackmailing, bribing, and other illegal means are not allowed. Penalties will be given to violators.

(10) When will this event start?

- We are planning to start this around February 14 or 15.

(11) How many times can I vote?

- You may vote in ALL polls only one per user.

(12) How will I know if my vote is counted?

- You will be PMed by one of the moderators to notify if your vote is counted. You must use your actual username and answer appropriately for the vote to count.

If you're interested in becoming the inspiration for a role in the Season 3 Finale, please comment below. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

List of Participants

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1. Newt

2. Nano4

3. Hooky

4. Lord Drakyle

5. Digital Amber

6. Candy

7. Bazaro

8. L'Belle

9. Jace Stormkirk

10. LykosHand

11. Astra125

12. Alaris

13. Cicada

14. Caimie

15. Roswell

16. Walpurgis

17. Bok Choi

18. CrimsonDragon21

19. Seal

20. EndearingCharacterTrait

21. Nick Crash

22. Yahen

23. Dragoknight

24. Hypurr

25.

... and so forth (no maximum number of participants)

February 12, 2019

24 minutes ago, LykosHand said:

@Jason Grace ~~Honestly no i didn't notice it~~ and so we have so many roleclaims already? then i have to say i'm the real doctor, i have proof about it....just right here...ummmm...._{where they are?}

You didn't notice it. You must be lynched the next day!

Also, no, you're just some second-rate quack doctor!

February 12, 2019

49 minutes ago, Hypurr said:

hey guys I'm the doc what's poppin'

Lies! I'm the real doctor

February 11, 2019

Irrelevant, but anyone noticed that there's a 5 in the last line of the rules list without any purpose of being there?

February 11, 2019

1 hour ago, Bok Choi said:

None of you are in the mafia chat. So obviously none of you are mafia duh.

...

...

In all seriousness what is the point of this day? To introduce ourselves? I feel like we would've just started on a night phase if this first day didn't serve some purpose for someone. Does anyone have any daytime actions or are there only night actions?

Mafia says this. Just kidding

Idk maybe the purpose of this phase is to get a first impression of people before the next phase starts.

February 11, 2019

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