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@Paul25 I urge you to rethink your decision. @purplecicada It's just been hard for me to grasp a read on you. At the start of day 2, you were one of my top town, but you kept slipping with every passing day, with lesser contribution you've beem giving. I can't help but scumread you despite your behavior not being similar to mafia!Nicki and I think that it's totally possible you're playing a different game as mafia because of Danganronpa Mafia. You didn't change your behavior, but you did absolutely nothing to improve upon it. That's what I sincerely think.
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Why do I feel like mafia? I don't think the sacrifice thing works in any way. First off, although I could point mafia members as mafia, I don't think I would have done so in the context of D2. It hardly benefits mafia!me to bus fellow mafia on the first day lynching happens because it reduces number easily and isn't wholy the greatest move. Second, knowing that tie, I needn't attempt to call upon a lynch on Bok because I could have easily jumped on the Cat BW and said it was justified. Third, I don't think the context of me being more valuable and salvageable is correct. Even up until now, I'm still being suspected for reasons that I don't understand. Fourth, how was he faking antagonism? From what he said, it felt genuine that he voted me because he was threatened I discovered him. Fifth, Bok was suspicious. You're just ignoring how suspicious he was. Also, why do you think Nicki is mafia?
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With Lia being cleared with Andracass' post last day saying Lia's town and me being town, we're left with Nicki, Zero Passion, and Paul. I think at this point it's important to look at how they're associated with each other for us to be able to better evaluate Nicki/Zero Passion: They have hardly interacted with each other except for Nicki's vote on Zero Passion the previous day and Zero Passion mentioning Nicki's vote on him. This could be distancing between mafia partners or this could be simply two towns who aren't active enough to interact. Could go either way. Nicki/Paul: There's no interaction between them either. It could still be distancing; however, upon rereading, Paul's vote on Cataline could be one of those types wherein he follows a mafia partner's reasoning in getting a mislynch. The only other thing related to them is Nicki pressuring him and Zero Passion for being inactive, but voting Zero Passion instead. Paul/Zero Passion: And once again, there's minimal interaction which isn't surprising at this point. They didn't have any interaction on D2 while on D3, they both voted for Sailboat. Paul's vote didn't have much reason to it, but Zero's had a reason that stretched to the previous day. I think Paul could have voted for Sailboat as a means of going by a townie's reasoning; however, conversely, Zero could have made up reasons to mislynch Sailboat. Today, Zero votes for Paul. Going by this, I think they're not aligned with each other which means at least one of them is reasonably a townie. With regards to what I feel about them individually, it's difficult to put a grip on all of them because of their inactivity which doesn't help us tell much of them. Paul's not too active, but he's given a level of contribution; he could be genuine, however, he could also have tried to make some of those posts as a means of making it seem like he's contributed something. Zero Passion's had little activity, but they seem to have tried to give their thoughts with regards to specific behavior and posts of certain individuals. Nicki's the same, but she has been cryptic and has had little incentive to contribute which is hard to judge because while it is suspicious independently, there's also the fact that it is uncharacteristic of her to do so if she were mafia. At the same time, I don't really know what to make of her saying that she's busy irl, but appears to be active elsewhere. With this assessment, I think I'm the most confident with voting for Nicki. [Vote] Purplecicada
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I don't think judging with the argument that Cass visited me because of our interaction makes me the visit instantly. I don't think she would visit me because of her visit on Lia which happened on either N1 or N2. I don't think she had done that because she was suspicious of her as she had not shown any indications of such. Going by this, I think she would have visited someone she thought was less suspicious, but made the wrong choice of visiting a mafia. However, as I've said before, all of these is pure assumption and I think we shouldn't base our votes on that.
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This sounds like they are a power role as if he should not be lynched at all. All the power roles are dead so this is moot. This seems like a self preservation technique to seem like they are important to keep around (ie a power role for town). - Saying they are a justified confirmed townie from the psych scan. This was not during night 1 however so this also seems like giving themselves a pass from getting lynched here. I'm not sure if I could give this a "good chance they are town bc scanned" scenario because of how the psychologist works, so I don't want to read too much into the mechanics in this situation. With regards to his other posts, what do you think of them? I feel like Paul wouldn't have done such a strategy to seem like they're important to keep around. I haven't really seen anyone pull off such an action, not did he have any incentive to do so because he wasn't at risk of being lynched. On the other hand, treating themselves as a justified confirmed townie is sending me mixed signals. On one hand, it seems to be a way of lessening the lynch pool, but at the same time, I don't think it's really fit of him to be clear simply for that because there are two opportunities for him to have performed the mafia kill, thus, avoiding the psychologist' visit.
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The [Jury] System
Daniel Blackworth replied to Daniel Blackworth's topic in Reborn Mafia Club's General Mafia
@Finalbeta Thank you for volunteering! As Bean answered, applying for a Juror is done once a game opens sign-ups. If you wish to be a Juror for a particular game, please do so in its official thread. Stay tuned! -
What do you mean by make you and Andracass look like scum? I never did that. You were one of my primary suspects before the flip, but I was convinced that Andracass was town while I was interacting with her. My huge gripes with her was that she was tunneling me for reasons such as not suspecting her and apparently trying to appeal to people (which are both bogus), but even if I tried to explain it, she never tried to engage nor see reason. The assumption that Cass would try to abandon a safe position and be creative and reckless in making use of her role is wrong. It's largely based on the flavor text. Flavor texts reveal information such as who got killed by what on a case-to-case, host-by-host basis and it's decidedly not the same in all bases that such information is revealed. I don't think she banked on that. And for two good reasons for bolded portion: (1) I don't think she's self-sacrificial. If she were, why did she not hide behind me to prove her point on the other night? and (2) I'm town, so she couldn't have possibly hid behind me. Besides, under what basis am I scum other than an assumption made by a visit? I feel such action is simply arbitrary and it's going to make us lose. I assume scum is two out of Purplecicada, Zero Passion, and Paul.
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@andracass First of all, you should read things more carefully. NGL I'm frustrated with how people try to twist my own words to their own convenience. Primarily I'm townreading you for just happening to be Bean's N1 investigation. If we go by the chances of you committing a kill as mafia, the chances are effectively so lower that you have to be virtually lucky to commit the kill on that night. I see no reason for Bean to lie about that. Second, the off-hand possibility of you being mafia even with that investigation does exist and you're reasonably scummy for different reasons. The reason why I disregard that is that I feel like you're openly wolfing. I've seen such behavior twice in different games and both times, it ended up being someone who is town. As for your second paragraph, did you want me to not see reason and just tunnel you for no good reasons despite seeing that you probably weren't mafia from rereading? I did suspect Bean and Cat because they had really bad votes if you look at their reasons and why they did so; nevertheless, it wasn't enough grounds for me to want to lynch them given their actions. On your third paragraph, I don't like how you're simplifying my reasons for reading them as so and disregarding everything else I said. The reason why there is a difference between Sailboat and Nicki is their personality and playstyle; I've played enough with Nicki to feel like her posts don't come from a scum perspective and though it may be a weak reason, I find it valuable because that's how I understand her. Sailboat, on the other hand, had reasonably cryptic posts, but he does this as either alignment and the way he doesn't give a follow-up to this and the way he spends most of his time spending analysis on roles and not giving even a speckle of observation is making me think he's scum. Reread their posts and you'll see exactly how different they are.
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So... after a little bit of rereading and rechecking, I find it difficult to come up with concrete reads on people because most have made some posts and actions that warrant attention, but I'll try to look past their intentions in making these posts. Reads: Psychic Bean Sheep - Kinda random, as always, but uncounterclaimed Psychologist, so more or less, confirmed town Paul25 - Apparently the N2 investigation target of Bean, I think he is town for reasons independent of that. I like his appearance in early D2 as an initiator and gave some level of contribution. I don't quite like his reasons for voting Cataline, but it feels natural coming from him. Others have noted how he made some mistakes in his analysis, but from the way he posts, I don't feel like he has any hidden agenda nor do I feel like he would outright make those mistakes as mafia to gain town credit (I believe it's called dumbtelling). Andracass - Cass has been the N1 target of Bean, so I'm inclined to believe she's town primarily for this and the chances of a coincidential same night kill are relatively lesser. I find her vote on me then a switch on Sailboat then a return to me last day suspicious because she never stated any reasons even a simple one liner while her D3 is... underwhelming and weird. Despite that, I'm inclined to think she's town because her reactions are natural and I don't think she'd say that she could look overly suspicious if she unvoted nor would she just say Lia's town as mafia. Nicki - Overall, she has been quite cryptic with her posting on D2 with trying to shade different players without really pursuing it or giving elaboration to it and it's pulling red flags to me; however, decidedly, her reason and timing for her vote on Cataline is decent, but my primary reason for lowering my suspicion on her is that this is far different from her typical scum game where she appears to be contributing by making repackaged summaries of how the day went and/or posting filler a lot more. ZeroPassion - ZeroPassion hasn't really made much noteworthy contributions in the game, but I feel that they probably wouldn't start a random vote as mafia on Day 1 and their response to it seemed natural. I also liked their observation on Sailboat. I don't have much to make a basis on reading them, but I think they're town, although lower than most other people. Walpurgis - As I noted in a previous read, she feels to be playing a very low profile from how she behaved in Day 1 to early Day 2. Going by her Day 2, she seems to have hard defended Bok and I'm inclined to think unfavorably of her for that. Aside from that though, I don't like how she shaded Nicki on that same day, but did not try to act on it or elaborate it further. I feel like their early D3 posts have a weird feeling from them and I don't like her vote on Nicki. It seems opportunistic and there isn't much justification given to it. Sailboat - Candy seemed towny and all from when they came in, but Sailboat's entry is weird after looking at it. The first thing they say into the game is talk about what they felt about specific roles and the D1 choice. Given Sailboat's playstyle, it could be excusable that he didn't give any reads or observations of the game, but I don't like how he spends more of the game trying to justify the vigilante or how he simply gave a cryptic comment on his reads but never gave a follow up on that at all. [Vote] Sailboat
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Birb mafia (Epilogue)
Daniel Blackworth replied to Anime's topic in Reborn Mafia Club's General Mafia
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First and second bolded: I acknowledge that you said both, however, despite saying that, you never tried to emulate that kind of action. Despite your prior posts, you did not have any intention of doing so or sharing your insights on anyone. All I recall so far is that you're merely tunneling on two people, yet never commented on what you thought about tje gamestate, the other players, and other things you can notice. This to me, looks like you're appearing to be contributing when you're not and simply trying to lay low. Third: You may have explained it, but your vote and its wording scream OMGUS no matter how you look at it. You also still haven't explained why you're using a coinflip when you can make a judgement for yourself and you have done nothing to convince me you are town. I think my suspicion on you is justified.
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Suspecting me for that is an assumption on your part. It's actually a tie now. @Alaris @Psychic Sheep @sailboat @andracass @purplecicada @ZeroPassion @Walpurgis @Paul25 @Cataline Because I don't want to die for opportunistic reasons nor do I want to compromise my reads for the sake of self-preservation, I urge you to vote Bok. Why should you do this? (1) He states on D1 that there's no one to defend or accuse because nobody has died yet, so there's no reason to lynch. Independently, it is suspicious because it's a wolfy way to have an excuse to not contribute anything. (2) However, in D2, when there have been already deaths, he still continues to do nothing. I'm fine with having a playful manner, however, his statement on D1 told us that he would contribute once there was more to go from, but he doesn't do that. (3) He instead only pops up later on the day and suspects me and Cat for no reason and decides to organize his decision via a coin flip. I don't think a town person would do that. If you really are town, you know whom you suspect more. (4) He gives his reason to Cataline. However, it's an opportunistic reason that he seems to have copied only from thoughts of other people. (5) He dodges my questions and my accusations. He appears to have no response to this and dodges it so that he can avoid heat. (6) He gives his reasons for suspecting me, but it's merely an OMGUS. There's no other reason to it. It's a retaliation and a vote that he casted because I caught him. I urge you to vote for Bok. [Vote] Bok Choi
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@Cataline What do you mean by scum voice of reason? I don't know what you're getting at here. You're suspecting me for not being suspicious of you? What do you mean by flipping the votes? You're basing your vote on luck? NGL I think you're town because this feels similar to how Candy behaved and was mislynched in Danganronpa Mafia, but you're not doing anything to convince me you're town. I urge you to rethink your decision. @Bok Choi Your reason for voting me is basically OMGUS because I voted you. You're not even responding to what I said about you. I'm more convinced you're mafia now.
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Mafia is a social deduction game though, so it's based on reading people and reasoning out from it. My read on Cataline is based on pure feel as I think that she's merely inexperienced with this kind of setup, hence, why she joined this game. As for Bok, you didn't read the continuing line on the first bolded portion while I've also said this: "his most recent vote is weird because there isn't any explanation and it lacks conviction from a town persona due to the way that it seems to be done by luck. This might change depending on his response." Going by your statement, why do you say "he looks town"?