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[quote name='Gardevoir' post='10972' date='Feb 15 2011, 07:54 PM']Well, then again, when has Amethyst ever really had anything under control? [color=#000000;background:#000000;' onmouseover="this.style.color='#FFFFFF'" onmouseout="this.style.color='#000000']Never.[/color][/quote] ....since always? ._. [quote name='Gardevoir' post='10972' date='Feb 15 2011, 07:54 PM']Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyy[/quote] QQ moar? [color=#000000;background:#000000;' onmouseover="this.style.color='#FFFFFF'" onmouseout="this.style.color='#000000']I feel sorry for you, I sincerely do[/color]

What a beautiful work of poetry *claps*

Happy Birthday Shelly!~ (how did you guys learn it was her birthday? o.o)

[quote name='Rumor Roserade' post='10900' date='Feb 12 2011, 10:46 PM']Ma chère Gardevoir no need to be so furieux (that is furious if it is not évident (obvious)). All toi has to do is not be absent. [b]Though as you can sees no one took my highlights wrongly.[/b] Now now my petite mégère, I shall take my leave until you are absent, oui? Et Kaito, merci, je t'aime aussi.[/quote] [color=#000000;background:#000000;' onmouseover="this.style.color='#FFFFFF'" onmouseout="this.style.color='#000000']Trolololololololol[/color]

Waitwut Where did Roserade come from anyways? O_O

Ikaru wins for um, putting me to sleeeeep zzzzzzzzzzz

>Radomus >Psychic >Roserade YeahIdoubtRadomusownsRoserade So where has Gardevoir been this past week? >_>

o.o

It's funny because Scizor is slow? Just because counters exist for a Pokémon hardly means it should be OU.

Happy brithday Ice! Keep it cool bro *shot*

[b][u]Boring[/u][/b] ~Dull ~Sleep Inducing ~Bleah

[Specs] [Jolteon] (M/F) @ [Choice Specs] Trait: [Volt Absorb] EVs: [252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP] [Nature] Timid - Thunderbolt - Volt Change - Signal Beam/Shadow Ball - Hidden Power Ice/Hidden Power Grass [Almost just like the 4th Gen Specs set, but not quite. Volt Change is your new toy, and with your blistering speed, you can abuse it the same way Pokémon like Flygon abuse U-Turn. For a harder hitting Electric move, stay in and use Tbolt. Signal Beam and Shadow Ball both are effective on Psychic Pokémon, Signal Beam hits Grass and Dark Pokiémon harder, Shadow Ball hits Ghosts harder. Hidden Power Ice is more effective for Dragons, Gliscor, and Lightningrod Zapdos, while Grass takes care of Quagsire, Pert, and the like.]

Dragonz, neutral STAB Boil Over in the Rain has higher base power than *2 Super Effective Mud Bomb =/

[quote name='Doctor Octagonapus' post='10642' date='Feb 6 2011, 11:27 PM']Here's the thing. It is no longer possible for one team to have counters to most everything, with the ridiculous amounts of threats 5th gen has brought us, and the resurgence of weather.[/quote] I Disagree????? Sure, it's impossible to counter all specific combinations, but not individual threats.

[You zetta slow] [Accelgor] (M/F) @ [Focus Sash] Trait: [Sticky Hold] EVs: [252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 4 HP] [Nature] Hasty - Bug Buzz - Focus Blast - U-Turn - Spikes [You thought Electrode was fast? This little fella tops Electrode even in Speed, and has Spikes, making him perfect for a suicide lead. Bug Buzz and Focus Blast can hit somewhat hard when SE, like say, against Ttar, as a kill can be more rewarding than Spikes at times. U-Turn lets you scram if you need to for some reason. Not much to say, other options include Death Gambit and Yawn.]

....I couldn't agree more with Geo-kun

Horizon, your description needs more sarcasm

Now before I start my long winded rant, response, etc. I'll just say this. I am by no means going against or for what Ame says by Reborn straying from Smogon, I am merely stating what I feel needs to be stated and responding to what I feel needs a response from me. When you talk about something like this, you really have to deep dig and get down to the facts. First of all, Pokémon is not an incredibly intricately balanced game that the developers carefully designed and everything. That's what Smogon and everyone else has been doing, with all the competitive stuff. And because this is not an intricately balanced game, there will be mechanics with inherent flaws. There will be mechanics that are unbalanced when used in a certain way. Second, although the game is unbalanced, it is by no means completely disfunctional and virtually any mechanic, has a counter. The question thus, is, how do you define something as having incredibly specific counters, or being insanely hard to counter once a designated counter or check is removed, to be "broken"? Where do you draw the line for things such as, Shadow Tag Shandera? This is where no matter what, bias and personal experience will come into play for the group that is making said decision. Smogon, and the people on it, are no exception. They are trying to make decisions to the best of their ability, and no matter how much you despise them, loathe them, you have to look back and recall how inherently flawed the game is without such small tweaks and bans. Now then, let's look at Ame's hypothetical extension. According to this hypothetical the basic idea is with so many counters floating around, a type of team such as Swift Swim falls out of use. As a result, the counters fall out of use. Then, the theme is rediscovered due to its counters fading away, restarting the cycle. But what is this really accomplishing in terms of metagame growth? Ame says that the strategy may not regain its former glory and usage, but this isn't always the case. When a particulary effective or deadly strategy, rain for example, is established, it's not simply going away because there are counters of it. For then, is it no natural to morph the strategy, to include ways of countering the counters? But a team is not simply going to be, rain, or rain counter. There will be ways do beat rain without having such specific counters. But once again, will this always be the case? Here we must revisist the above question, where do you draw the line? What is the distinction between something you can counter and something that is so ridiculous you need to make an entire team just to counter it? The obvious answer is, if other team strategies can flourish with the presence of this "overpowered" strategy, it must not be too overpowered. Once again, this brings us back to one of our original points. Whoever sets out to determine whether this strategy or mechanic can be deemed "broken" will most definitely make a biased conclusion. But what else is there? This isn't a factual process. So Smogon, is hardly different from us in our banning or abstinence of such. We will use our own judgment and experiences to make a decision. So, in essence, we are another Smogon. Any group testing suspects, making their own tiers, is a Smogon in some way. And when they stray from the literal Smogon, they are making their own metagame with their tiering.

[HydraRest Sweeper] [Vaporeon] (M/F) @ [Leftovers] Trait: [Hydration] EVs: [252 Special Defense, 196 Defense, 60 HP] [Nature] Calm - Surf - Rest - Toxic - Acid Armor [You heard me right, a Vaporeon sweeper. Your intention is to get a couple of Acid Armors up, boosting your Defense through the roof, along with your maxed out Special Defense and high HP. From there, you try to "sweep". Toxic is your main source of damage, wearing down most Pokémon. Surf hits Steel types, Poison types, and any random Pokémon with the Immunity ability. Surf is used over Boil Over for two reasons. First, it has more power. Second, you don't want to randomly burn something and not be able to Toxic it. Be prepared for bullshit to happen with this set, Vaporeon is kinda a crit magnet. =/]

I typed it at like 12 last night gimme a break >>

Obamasnow's health care plan >> <<

[Bros before hoes] [Slowbro] (M/F) @ [Leftovers] Trait: [Regeneration] EVs: [212 HP, 252 Defense, 46 Special Defense] [Nature] Bold - Boil Over - Slack Off - Ice Beam/Hidden Power Electric/Flamethrower - Thunder Wave/Toxic [Fuck your Jynxes and Lopunnies.... I has a bro. Alright, silly jokes aside, Slowbro is a total bro. He has some good HP, enourmous Defense, and decent Special Defense. Boil Over is your main attack with a chance of burning, while Slack Off is a nice solid recovery move. From there, you can pick Ice Beam to deal with Dragons, HP Electric to combat Water Pokémon, or a toally lulzy choice in Flamethrower which can do massive damage to Scizor, Nattorei, and Foretress. Finally, you have either Toxic to wear down enemy Pokémon or T Wave to slow them down.]

QQ more Will

Yeah, I'll try to help my bro N8

[quote name='Gardevoir' post='10557' date='Feb 5 2011, 04:54 PM'][url="http://pokemonreborn.com/logs/1222.html"]Nateh v. Cain- Fuck you (ooh ooh ooh!)[/url][/quote] [img]http://wps.theoffside.com/files/2009/07/what-the-fuck-cat.jpg[/img] Errr, I mean, needs moar [s]yaoi[/s] Amy.