SJMistery Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) This is the team i have been using on BW and BW2, and i need a little help to prepair it for the new XY metagame. I would like hints to adapt it to the new threats. As advance, sorry for my bad english. StarHammer (Latios) (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Draco Meteor - Psyshock - Surf - Dragon Pulse Easy to use with a bit of practise, deadly to face, even some steels fear thar DM! The Gravitron (Chandelure) (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Shadow Tag/Flash Fire EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Fire Blast - Energy Ball - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power (Fighting) THE revenge killer. I will forever hate the decision of stealing his Shadow Tag. Fortunately, with Flash Fire still works fine with a bit of prediction. Mammhut (Mamoswine) (M) @ Life Orb Trait: trick Fat EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4Def Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Ice Shard - Earthquake - Icicle Crash - Superpower That thing has a little brain with a single thing inside: Break things. Near perfect coverage, one shots aegislash in the defensive form. Magneto (Magnezone) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Magnet Pull EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power (Fire) - Volt Switch - Flash Cannon My new and old trapper, safer than chandy for kill some oponents, and now carries paralysis imunity: the perfect Skarmory, Scizor, Forretress and Kefki counter. Rocky (Breloom) (M) @ eXpert Belt Trait: Tecnichian EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Spore - Stone Edge/Rock Tomb - Mach Punch - Bullet Seed how to survive a chandelure in BW? pretty simple: switch, Spore, and Stone Edge. if the oponent hasn't sent a chandelure (and lot it), he has no one. in XY the buff in rock tomb makes it even better for the job of kill annoying fire and flying types. Belgabad (Dragonite) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Multiscale EVs: 252 HP / 92 Def / 96 SDef / 68 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Dragon Claw - Dragon Dance - Roost - Substitute My signature set, and maybe, and one of the most annoying sets in the existence. Even +6 Aegislash shadow sneak does not OHKO, and the +1 DC does an impressive damage to the offensive form, so if aegislash does a mistake, dies. King's shield is easily avoidable by just subbing, wich forces him to attack and break it before I recover Multiscale. It's ME that i laugh at him, not the opposite He can anihilate an entire team by itself provided that fairies, full physically defensive Skarmory and Mamoswine are out of the way. This one in particular is untouchable, even with fairies around the substitute wins more games than a coverage move. That thing actually is what cements my team in the top ladder on BW, and is slowly giving me again the edge in XY so underestimate it at your own peril (i cannot put the spoiler in, i will put it on a quote. help!) Latios (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Draco Meteor - Psyshock - Surf - Dragon Pulse Chandelure (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Shadow Tag/Flash Fire EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Fire Blast - Energy Ball - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power [Fighting] Mamoswine (M) @ Life Orb Trait: trick Fat EVs: 252 Atk / 4Def / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Ice Shard - Earthquake - Icicle Crash - Superpower Magnezone @ Choice Scarf Trait: Magnet Pull EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power [Fire] - Volt Switch - Flash Cannon Breloom (M) @ eXpert Belt Trait: Tecnichian EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Spore - Stone Edge/Rock Tomb - Mach Punch - Bullet Seed Dragonite (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Multiscale EVs: 252 HP / 92 Def / 96 SDef / 68 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Dragon Claw - Dragon Dance - Roost- Substitute Edited November 26, 2013 by SJMistery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Dragonite isn't anywhere near as good as you think it in 6th. Also, remember that sub no longer blocks [lists 20+ moves], Boomburst especially will probably kill a Dragonite with sub out. Also Greninja can ohko it [even with Multiscale] and Avalugg [even if it's rarely used] will stall and then ohko it, and Aegislash will just laugh at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtao Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Chandelure's value has gone down tremendously since it did not obtain shadow tag. So if you really want a trapper now go with Mega-Gengar. Mega-Gengar has an amazing movepool and a ridiculously high Special Atk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJMistery Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) I don't know why, but I expected that: Cowtao, I think you missed a point: I don't really need shadow tag to kick ass with Chandelure, my legenary prediction supplies it perfectly. And the extra speed allows me to beat Mega Gengar without fail, while its fire typing is really usefull to me both in terms of sinergy and offensively (specially if get the boost of Flash Fire: bulky waters getting nearly one-shoted by Fire Blast Alone seems scarying if you think about it). Secundum, the only sound move that Dragonite is really worried about is Sylveon's Hyper Voice, which is rare and i won't stay against him anyway. Greninja cannot OHKO even with life orb as long he's timid, if he runs modest, he might OHKO, but will be too slow to hit before getting crippled or killed by the +1 dragon claw (trust me, that bulky spread is not for decoration). Edited November 24, 2013 by SJMistery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 What are you talking about? Even with over 100 special EVs, life orbv greninja will always ohko due to stab. Test it in-game. Also, Aegislash still ruins your Dragonite, as all you have is a NvE attack, and you'll be losing attack due to kings shield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 mega gengar instead of chandalure. Reasons: It is faster than a modest scarf and stronger and is not constrained to one move every switch in. Also Steel types which would usually be trapped and killed by chand stab fire move are already trapped by magnazone. idk about dragonite set but it seems to still being you wonders somehow in the battles i have seen you play. 4 def evs on mamoswine and I'm pretty sure it has a big brain. personally I prefer icicle spear to icicle crash but idk there kind of the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJMistery Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) At this point, no one greneinjas has passed from 87% damage of the ice beam, and some of them ahd a Life Orb. Remember on calculators I carry a maxed HP stat and some def investment, the set is not ofensive. the speed allows me outspeed latios and everything below at +1, and scarf base 100s at +2 AGAIN: I DO NOT NEED Shadow Tag anymore, and chandy is Timid, so is faster than mega gengar (which in fact is actually one of his prime targets). The STAB Fire Blast also out-damages Mega Gengar's Sludge wave/bomb, especially if gets a boost wich is likely due to Breloom luring Fire types to no end Seriously, i had tryed Mega Gengar and even without Shadow Tag Chandelure fits better on my team. the 4 def EVs got lost in the traduction, fixed. the main poin is: where i put Stealth Rock. Edited December 2, 2013 by SJMistery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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