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1 hour ago, Oscarus said:
We theorically don't have to, but some of them make sense. Plus... Lance's Dragonair in the manga could wipe out entire Vermilion with a single Hyper Beam.
A Dragonair, with one move, destroyed and killed entire city. Yes, it is a Pokemon of Elite Four, soon-to-be Champion, but that isn't even his ace.
I know it is just in manga... But it shows how Pokemon can truly be destructive, ignoring limits of game logic and PG-7 enivoriment of the anime
Dragonair's been eating their vegetables
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Only like a month left until this thread becomes redundant :(
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1 hour ago, Oscarus said:
Sirius couldn't do much to Solaris anyways.
If he knew he was stronger, he would take over Team Meteor even before Lin did so, or degradate Solaris and become Lin's right hand.
But he didn't. Because he knows he is no match for Solaris when he's serious. So Sirius waited for the right moment to attack - that reveal of Taka's demise was a low blow, but that's how heels work.
I've gotta agree with this; Sirius is cunning and knows when to act like in Agate city in the Reshiram route, or at the CCC where he strikes after the battle when our Pokemon are weakened(although he only appears some time later), and waits until Eclipse starts giving us classified information about Lin. This is likely due to, as you say him knowing he can't win 1v1, so he uses Aster&Eclipse and us to do the dirty work so that he can deal the final blow.
He has been described many times as having a 'history is written by the winners' mentality, hinting at that he wants to ultimately lead Team Meteor for his own goals. Once he learns that the gemstones that Radomus gave to him to turn into jewelry were keys to something so powerful, he joins Team Meteor to try and reclaim them as he now shares a common goal, and tells Solaris about the jewelry(as hinted in his Agate city dialogue(Reshiram)). With his Emerald brooch that he gives Solaris(who gave it to El), he seeks out the Ruby ring and Sapphire bracelets, succeeding in getting one key. Having seemingly proven his loyalty through commitment and retrieving two keys, he rises through the ranks which allows him to become more powerful. Using his power, he recruits Sigmund and the orderlies(which he says their contracts are with him, not necessarily Team Meteor) and seeks out the Amethyst pendant and the lost Ruby ring. Sirius cleverly uses the Meteor grunts at Belrose mansion as their contracts aren't with him but rather Solaris, so when Saphira slaughters those several grunts she is really strengthening Sirius and weakening Solaris. In the final few episodes, Team Meteor consists highly of orderlies, and has much less grunts showing that Sirius has a much bigger influence in Team Meteor than he did at the start of the game.
Why do I bring this all of this up? Well, his actions seem to suggest that he is self-centered and that he wants to be on top, so I propose a theory; Sirius is using Team Meteor for his own goals and he plans on betraying them as well as Lin. He know he can't do it alone, so he uses others to get his way and push himself higher. This is shown as discussed in Agate city, where he uses us to beat Solaris. Solaris' only advantage over Sirius was strength, so now that Sirius has a fully healed team whilst Solaris has the opposite, Sirius can freely lampoon Solaris and humiliate him to the point of resignation, or as you suggested suicide/death. This would place him 2nd in charge in the team which would only give him Lin to worry about. He could plan on using us much like Lin is, and wait for us to beat Lin before he strikes at our weakened selves(which could explain why he spared us at Tanzan, though he did try to kill us at the CCC(perhaps it was an act to again prove his loyalty in front of the other grunts)).
Quote"I didn't know, He tricked me", "I have to fix it. I'll get them all back. History was in my hands, and then my skull. It is written by the winner, so I must take up the pen. Nose to the grindstone, eye to the needle. The sword follows only after"
His diary entry from before he joined Team Meteor has several idioms in it, one of which predicts Corey's assault so could his mention of the sword be foreshadowing his death? After all the Dev's have hinted at Lin being the final battle in the main story, so Sirius' plans probably get thwarted as I doubt he will be the final boss(though a very small part of me is open to the idea; it would definitely be unexpected to a large majority of players). Sirius is a major, reoccurring character but despite this we only battle him once, while we battle other important people like Solaris multiple times so this too could suggest he has a much bigger role coming up(which has been hinted at in a Dev Blog post, though I think it is PULSE related, maybe he wields PULSE Clawitzer?).
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5 minutes ago, Oscarus said:
He did that only to save his ass. Even so, Lin DID know that the "new recruit" is responsible for all the recent failures, asking us directly whether we know something about giant Steelix or not.
The only reason she didn't decide to kill any of us was because ZEL and Sirius were a great asset to her, and we were so pathetically weak as of right then, it didn't matter if we were alive or not.
And I totally agree with that, but Sirius didn't know that Lin knew nor did he know that Lin was and still wanted to use him, so in that moment I believe he did it for both of us, but probably more-so for us as he would have known that we were at a greater risk of death.
Also I know there was a discussion months(?) ago about liking evil characters, but is it bad for one to like Sirius seeing how he is arguably the most evil character in the game without any/many redeeming qualities? Asking for a friend...
15 minutes ago, Oscarus said:You too...? So...
What about 50/50?
11 minutes ago, Dark Champion said:*Cuts in front
Ugh, competition
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2 hours ago, Oscarus said:
Saying and analyzing all of the characters, I've noticed someone. All but one character have some redeeming qualities; because of the painful past, harsh presence, bad company, being thankful for life to someone...
As of V18, the only... THE ONLY... character that doesn't have any of these, is Sirius.
This dude is a murderer, terrorist, arsonist, sadist, thief, and Arceus know what else. Not only he's having perhaps the worse crime track of all characters individually, he also has NO redeeming qualities. NONE!
All of the other characters, who do bad and immoral things, have at least one solid reason or theory why they do that. Sirius has none, to my knowledge.
He is human, feeling different emotions ranging from calm and static, to angry and irritated, to outright terrified. But yet, we have no clue why have he done all of this, and even more.
I hope V19 will show the reason, if there's any.
If none... I can see different scenarios.
Not exactly a redeeming quality, but he did cover for us at the Tanzan Meteor base. Even if it was because Lin would kill all of them + us, she probably would have killed Sirius once we left as she would be curious as to where the "new, helpful recruit" went(though she did see through the lie and seemingly didn't care), so you could argue that he did it out of respect for us dealing with Abra, or just didn't think it through
8 hours ago, Kenneth said:I really wonder at what point in the story, we can access the Penthouse from the big mart. Lots of items in there i want to grab. Like the max happiness one.
I would imagine that the last sticker quest is in Labradorra, probably something to do with cleaning up the city after Team Meteor
11 hours ago, Oscarus said:But I still want her organs and bones.
Jeez man, wait in line smh
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5 hours ago, Z.. said:
dunno if this has been answered already, but will their be like a battle gauntlet where you fight all the devs? Like in Insurgence
Dev battles have been confirmed here, but I don't think there has been any mention as to if they are gauntlet-style or if each one is individual(though I would assume the latter is more likely).
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Roark uses a Tyranitar in his Platinum rematch(and BDSP?), Blue has one in HGSS if you call him, Grimsley uses one in BW2 in his Challenge mode rematch, Gordie apparently has one in SWSH in a rematch and also how can you possibly forget about Veteran Vincent on Route 18 in BW2.
But yeah, no major trainer in their main battles.
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11 hours ago, Oscarus said:
But how does that "kill count" works?
Is it just losing on the first try? Or just forcing player to (rage) quit?
I think it is how many times someone has whited-out against him, or how many people have whited-out to him
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I would imagine it is because Flash isn't a necessity to progress through the game unlike the other TMX's, so they hid it as a reward for the people who are willing to explore the additional places that aren't main story related.
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That does sound like a very good idea, though we'd have to see what the rest of her team is like as she could have 1 or 2 slow tanky mon's. Also would probably have to slap a Focus Sash on the Trick Room user as some decent moves get a x2 boost like Meteor Mash, Moonblast, Draco Meteor and Spacial Rend(Nature Power), plus the Dark type boost of 1.5x.
Old mate Radomus coming to save the day again it seems.
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1 minute ago, Green Bean 501 said:
I don't think it works against ice types or on Pokemon that have a higher level. RIP that strategy on the off chance she uses ALolan Ninetales
Oh yeah I totally forgot about the level thing
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Could work, although it would mean a lot of soft-resets(although they are supposed to be even faster now). In before Lin uses a Sturdy Magnezone...
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The artwork on the Reborn Twitter page of Ace made by a Dev shows what appears to be a Zorua, so although Ace isn't someone's alter-ego they could use Zoroark's illusion to appear to be someone else, after all they are apparently a master of illusions.
SpoilerSpeaking of Ace, I also recall in the early hours of the 'peanut gallery' Dev Blog post there being a screenshot of Ace in the Blacksteam Factory which has since been deleted
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1 hour ago, Oscarus said:
Theorically yes. It's near impossible to outspeed Choice-scarfer with near maximum Speed, using a Pokemon with almost the same level and Base Speed.
Choice Scarf boosts Speed by 50%, so by one stage (but the boost cannot be as easily "erased" as in the case of stage changes). But the only way to quickly increase Hydreigon's Speed is Magical Seed... which causes the recharge - making Hydreigon vulnerable.
The downside to using a Choice Scarf is that Lin will get a somewhat free switch-in to something that resists Dragon once Hydreigon goes down, plus the -2 SpA (although the x2 boost will negate this). I like the idea of a magical seed, but as you say this leaves Hydreigon vulnerable, so I think it being able to bypass lvl 100 will be the best course of action. I can only think of Noivern that will be able to outspeed and one-shot a lvl 100< Hydreigon on the New World field without a Choice Scarf or Air Balloon, which will add the much needed challenge to the battle. If Hydreigon was capped at lvl 100, then the likes of Flygon and Salamence come into the mix, as well as the previously mentioned speed-tying Hydreigon; a lot more options.
Though Noivern can crush Hydreigon, it is practically a sitting duck if Lin has a Fairy type or Metagross(Heat Wave does less than half if Timid, even less if Metagross has Magical seed) so it wouldn't be super OP, especially if the new AI can predict a Draco Meteor.
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4 hours ago, Green Bean 501 said:
I'm pretty sure the devs confirmed that there wont be anything over Lv 100 until the postgame. I think the real challenge comes from the fact that she'll be using the Arc Pulse on her team, cause I don't think she would have a 100% win rate against the ai if she didnt
I may have missed something, but this is from Cass' 2019 dev blog post about levels:
"while also making it so that further levelups aren't absolutely necessary to complete the main postgame content (and overleveling won't even be possible before you finish the League)."
I've interpreted this as that we won't be able to go past lvl 100 until the postgame, but the AI can. This would likely be because the final gym badge in other games removes all level restrictions, allowing for someone to overlevel as much as they want(though the restrictions only applied to traded pokemon). It's common knowledge at this point that we will be alllowed to go to level 100 after Saphira, and so it would be crippling for the Elite 4 and Lin if we can match them in level. For example, assuming Lin uses a Darkinium-Z Hydreigon, if I enter the battle with my own lvl 100 Hydreigon then I already have a speed-tie. If I put a scarf on my Hydreigon, then I can nuke her with a Draco.
+2 252 SpA Hydreigon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Hydreigon: 698-824 (179.8 - 212.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Yes, if she was above the level of my Hydreigon, then she'd still get destroyed due to the scarf, but it eliminates the speed-tie as I could have given my own Hydreigon a better item to take care of her other pokemon and relied on soft-resetting to win the speed-tie.
Again, I could be wrong or am missing something but I believe that the AI will breach the lvl 100 level cap in order to maintain a higher difficulty.
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1 hour ago, KingInfernal said:
It's not just the name. The zone underwater where Lin create a strange obelisk is literally the same as the zone where you purify the shadow pokemons, and the strange obelisk is the Relic Stone.
I'm not familiar with Colosseum and XD, but I believe Agate City follows a near-identical layout to Agate Village. I recall hearing that they are indeed the same place, and some mysterious force moved Agate to Reborn from Orre.
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3 hours ago, Evi Crystal said:
I have a small theory/prediction: What if Kenan got a Naganadel or Silvally like we have one? Or if he uses Fascade, Attract, Substitute or even Double Team? Or now they have the perfect natures for it?
Or second: I might agree what Oscarus says here. Plus Karma's a meanie.
I doubt the Dev's would give a grunt an Ultra Beast seeing that no trainer has used one yet, and storming Labradorra is probably the first thing we do in E19, where Kenan is the first grunt we face there. Also unlikely he'll get the Arceus-wannabe for the same reasons, but I'd say that there is a better chance of this happening.
His current team(which is constantly swapping 'mons with another Meteor) consists of some pretty basic Pokemon. I'll list every Pokemon he has used in spoilers, alongside those used by Meteor ace Diana(whom he swaps with)
SpoilerPokemon he has used: Noctowl, Salazzle, Manectric, Vileplume, Machamp, Golem(which Cass said in a stream that he uses in Labradorra), Purugly, Leavanny
Pokemon Diana has used that haven't been mentioned yet: Darmanitan, Grumpig
I wouldn't be surprised though if he picks up a new member or two.
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1 hour ago, Oscarus said:
Heck. Every regular Pokémon is available one way or another in V18.
But the only Legendary, Mythical and Ultra Beasts available right now are Phione, Poipole and Naganadel (and maybe Manaphy, but I'm not sure)
Nah, no Manaphy yet.
Also Type Null and Silvally are technically Legendary(though I hate the fact that they are).
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8 hours ago, Logan_the_balalaika said:
I think he's the infamous meteor grunt that's been slaying most of the people who have played e19 so far.
Yeah you're right, and we've fought him several times already, like at Fiore mansion and the Tanzan Meteor base.
His team seems to keep switching members between fellow Meteor Diana for some reason so I dunno who will be in his team.
SpoilerCass said that he has a Golem though, which he has used in the past.
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50 minutes ago, Oscarus said:
She has rather everything under control... as of right now. So she might think every action goes according to the plan. Keeping cold, static, emotionless and collected attitude helps in upholding the image of the truly perfect plan.
But do you know who also was like that...? Cyrus and Ghetsis. Neither of them have the all aphromentioned skills and characteristics: Cyrus is more cold, emotionless and collected, Ghetsis is more about collected and genius whos plan goes usually perfectly.
But what happens to them when their plans foil...? Complete breakdown! Cyrus was shouting and being furious about his lose, while Ghetsis lost his mind... twice.
Despite Lin not being a human, she does have some human personality values, and it is not impossible for her to do a 180 when the plan she has been working on for so long and so precisely, ultimately falls.
I'd definitely be furious if I was her.
9 hours ago, Bananacake887 said:Lin seems to be knowledgeable about how events will carry out, likely as she can remember from the previous timeline much like Anna(dialogue from the Glass Workstation in one of the routes seems to prove this) and probably Shade. The MC seems to puzzle her, but she seems to have found a way to work around us to get her way(making us get the crystal keys). It all seems to be part of her plan in which she anticipates a final showdown. I would imagine that if her behaviour is only a facade, then it will remain until after we beat her, so I would feel as though her theme would have to reflect this.
"I would imagine that if her behaviour is only a facade, then it will remain until after we beat her"
Yes, both Cyrus and Ghetsis have similar qualities to Lin and both had a breakdown after losing, as their defeat was unexpected to them(does Cyrus' breakdown really count, he seemed to accept the result and only showed mild disappointment). In my opinion, both Cyrus and Ghetsis' battle themes seem to represent the qualities that I had set out for Lin, which fit in with their character from what we have seen in the build up to their battles. Afterwards is a different story, so if Lin does have a breakdown after losing(which I'm sure she will unless her 'death' is instantaneous to her defeat), that fiery side probably won't be represented in the theme. I doubt Lin will breakdown beforehand as she seems to to think that we're a cakewalk(which we probably are without plot-armour) and so her plan would be playing out ideally.
Music is interpreted differently among different people however, so it is tricky to accurately attribute certain sounds to certain feelings/moods, especially when it comes to deciding what is 'dramatic' and 'calm' as they can quite often overlap. I am aware that I have given the idea of themes too much thought and attention as I should, though I am not trying to ridicule anyone's taste or opinion on what Lin's theme should sound like as I am likely wrong(which I have a history of). The last two suggestions you mentioned some posts ago do imo, show Lin's qualities quite nicely(I'd say the Leon theme is a bit too 'victorious' and 'friendly' for the situation) and stray away from the 'epic' and 'hype' aspect, though I doubt they will see the light of day as they aren't by GlitchxCity, nor are they an Ame original unless the Dev's choose to break tradition. I wouldn't be surprised if Lin gets a brand new theme(like with Rejuvenation) that our puny little ears aren't yet worthy of hearing.
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12 hours ago, Oscarus said:
I've never said it has to be "over-the-top" theme. But just something that doesn't have the tempo of a lullaby. Something that can actually hype you up. And the progression of hype in the themes of Team Meteor exists: Grunts -> Agents -> Admins/Commanders -> Solaris.
I don't care what theme or remix does it sound like, but if doesn't suit at all... I might be a little frustrated, and load that frustration on the game, by trying to make Lin as much of a joke as possible.
I would say for the most part that Solaris' theme is a drop in 'hype' and energy from the Admin theme, and takes more of a calmer and more dramatic(probably why it's called "dramatic" ingame), which is fitting as Sirius is more ruthless and blood-thirsty than Solaris; who seems to be more calculated and humble(doesn't really work for the other two admins though).
12 hours ago, Oscarus said:You say that like you knew how she truly is. That is only her exterior behavior. Actually, it is unknown how she truly acts. That was a mystery back in the 1st Season, when Lin was the Champion. Amethyst has never said to anyone outside of the challengers who defeated her how actually she behaves. And since the personalities of the characters based on Gym Leaders, Elite Four and Champions of the POL are based on them (to some degree, because I doubt Titania and Saphira were actually killing people), after the final battle, we might see true Lin.
She might be furious and throw temper tantrum, and keep blaming everyone and everything around... or she may be like "Wow, you're incredibly powerful. Good job, Trainer", and accept the loss.
I want honestly to see that nice Lin just accepting the fate, and maybe becoming friends - despite her actions causing the death of hundreds, if not thousands - and see her in the postgame, maybe fighting even side-by-side. If you think that's impossible... Recall that Lin is particularly pleasant to Terra - the most chaotic and destructive of all Agents, and maybe one of the most hated (mainly for those who have to clean up her mess)
Even if it is only her exterior behaviour, we haven't seem her true self so you can't base something on an assumption. What if Lin's true personality is what we have seen; being the classic 'cool, calm and collected' cliché and then fucking Bangarang starts playing when we fight her. It would seem unfitting as loud and fast(which is what you implied 'hype' to be) isn't her style.
Lin seems to be knowledgeable about how events will carry out, likely as she can remember from the previous timeline much like Anna(dialogue from the Glass Workstation in one of the routes seems to prove this) and probably Shade. The MC seems to puzzle her, but she seems to have found a way to work around us to get her way(making us get the crystal keys). It all seems to be part of her plan in which she anticipates a final showdown. I would imagine that if her behaviour is only a facade, then it will remain until after we beat her, so I would feel as though her theme would have to reflect this. Her current overworld themes seem to be a slowed version of Solaris' battle theme, 'Majesty' and 'Paranoia'(although paranoia is more suited to the Devon Corp), and I'd say all three sway away from 'hype'.
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3 hours ago, Green Bean 501 said:
I've been going through a lot of Glitchx's remixes and if we're assuming its an already existing track I feel like the Final N remix could also be a contender, even if its not as dark or intimidating as the others
I am a fan of the N remix, but as Oscarus said it was previously the Meteor Admin theme, so I doubt they would make it Lin's theme although that doesn't mean that they could bring the theme back for another 'less important' battle.
13 minutes ago, Oscarus said:Also... I do not agree with Cyrus' or Rose's remixes being there as they are too... "calm".
The "motive" for Team Meteor's battle themes are that they start out peacefully, have rather slow build-up, then the truly energetic part comes up. The mentioned themes aren't bad by any means, but there is no... how should I say it.........
There isn't enough dynamic energy in them, ok? This is supposed to be the final battle; the final clash; for the sake of the universe, if not the Multiverse! The theme HAS TO reflect it! It would be a waste if the theme for Lin was "Gym Leader-like, but darker", and it would be truly anticlimactic.
Personally I disagree and believe that the final showdown should have a more menacing, slow and 'calm' theme as I see it fitting for the New World field. For example, Arceus' theme in the main games somewhat follows this idea, and Arceus is considered to the God of pokemon; the final boss. Also, Lin seems to have a 'cool, calm and collected' persona, she never seems to lose her cool and has a degree of patience. Her theme would have to reflect more of her personality than the circumstances/environment of where she is fought. A more dynamic theme would be better suited to Sirius or even Solaris. Lin's theme would have to be somewhat dramatic, but yeah not necessarily 'dynamic and energetic'.
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1 hour ago, Logan_the_balalaika said:
Iirc during the map coloring stream Ame mentioned they picked track other than Giratina remix for Lin. Chairman's theme remix is a solid contender. No idea what it actually might be but I trust ours devs' choice.
Ok yeah you're right, found the clip and she said "I think you might prefer what we have for Lin instead" in regards to the Giratina remix. Assuming that they don't stray away from GlitchxCity, the Cyrus and Rose themes are probably the best contenders, or they could perhaps delve into the custom Rejuv themes (doubt it though).
The Last, Only, and Very Final X% Hype Thread
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Yeah, from this post it seems that Solaris, Sirius, Zero, Aster and Eclipse(although her real name has been revealed; Caitlyn Fisher) are all using code names.