CrimsonDragon21

I am making myself only more suspicious by adding this info but welp, you can't make yourself more suspicious if you are already the prime target: Cause there were some questions about my role as in general i looked up my role information and realised i didn't really pay a lot of attention. My role really acts like the Keeper. Whoever i visit gets protected. Whoever visits this person gets roleblocked. Additionally the person who got protected can't do anything this nightphase. I just assumed that i only roleblock the person i visit. With that beeing said, you can either believe me or think i just add more to my role, to make myself look more towny. I can't really defend myself against Ali's claim, cause i already revealed everything about myself. I mean i also had a Glass Mirror, which gives me my original role back, when the current holder of the glass mirror dies, but this information is to no extent helpful, cause the Old Maid already died. So it's basically in which claims you trust more. (there is still a possible situation, that we are both Town or both Mafia) It was never revealed that there are 2 doctor-like roles though. L'Belle the possible Doctor died without giving us a hint what his role could have been. As for Ali's case it is confirmed. that there are 2 messenger/spy roles. And we don't know the allignments of the 2nd messenger/spy role. But imo it wouldn't make sense to have 2 messenger allied to town. Cause that role is rather useless and don't really provide anything if there isn't a counterpart who could feed off false information. Those are just my assumptions. If it is a one-time only ability and could clear up this situation right now. Why not use it now? Or rather not use it and regret it later, cause this could be the last dayphase as of right now. Nonetheless it depends on you, who you are trusting. So think carefully and make your decision.

I don't really know why i am still the most suspicious person, when i literally told you everything about me. Also i don't know why you get suspicious feelings from my behaviour. I am just very defensive all the time, when i get targeted by suspicion. I am also not good at expressing myself. I think it's easier to make a better roleclaim for everyone who only red that i am the roleblocker. cause it took Bibs a while to get it and i am not sure if the others thought about that I am the Storyteller. I have the ability of the nurse. Every night i can visit someone and protect him/her with the drawback of him/her beeing roleblocked. I protected Bibs on Night0 and Ali on Night1. I haven't send my nightaction for N2 to Amber, cause i didn't had the time for it + i forgot about it. So tell me how can a nurse be alligned with mafia? Cause of that roleclaim and L'belle (probably the Doctor) beeing lynched, I thought i would be the target of the next mafia kill. But with that not beeing the case, the blame would fall onto me and make me more suspious then i already am. Additionally with some people always stating that i am the most suspicious one, just makes the matter worse. I told you everything about me and my roles, so if you still suspect me, i have nothing to defend myself. Well with that beeing said, i share my Analysis: In the game there were 4 non Towns from the beginning. probably 3 Mafia and 1 Third Party. With the Old-Maid gone, that leaves us with 3 Mafs, like Ali already told us. Ben: With his town-confirmed roleclaim and Lia backing his claims up, he seems towny so far. But he woke up some suspicion again, when he was afraid to get killed by Mafia, when his role kinda isn't a treat to Mafia. Nicki: A mysterious case. My gutfeeling tells me, she is one of scum, which kinda also adds-up with the vote on L'Belle (pressure vote on a person who is kinda absent, isn't what i would think of at that time) With her now revealing her one-time-only ability though, it could go either-way. @purplecicada So i am inclined to hear more about that ability, cause we might already be in a Lylo situation. Seal: He is unfortunately kinda inactive, but with his recent claims (which could raise some questions) i think he is rather townlean. @Seal Could you tell us who was the 3rd person you investigated and why haven't you investigated the most suspicious ones (Myself for example?) Cass: Imo her post don't have much Info and are there for filling in. She also haven't revealed much with her role already beeing revealed, making it harder for Town. So rather scumlean. Ali: He acts kinda neutral imo. But his post don't really add up and my Gut-feeling tells me he is scum. Also a role who can message others with a counterpart (messenger) who is confirmed to be sided with town makes me think he is scum. So rather scumlean. Lia: Could go either way. I just don't know, but rather townlean. Lykos: Could go either way. But with Seals claim i think he is more townlean. Myself: I explained everything and my case above. Depends on you. I am inclined to vote Ali, cause 2 spys alligned with town doesn't add up and would make the game a bit unbalanced if there isn't a counterpart. [Eliminate] Alistair

Welp what i really wanted to tell with that last part was that my main role isn't the one of a roleblocker. It is more of a drawback for the action i actually do. If you go back to my post, you will definetly understand what i implied with that

@Kabs I thought restrained/roleblock is the same. And yes i visited you on N0 and Ali on N1 Well you haven't even heard of my endless stories and you have no choice of escaping them I also thought that part would be more clearer (?)

Okay seems like bold statements make you iffy and scummy, i see. I don't really know what i can tell you guys to show you, that i am innocent. I also don't get why my statement come off as scared (?) from the Vigilante? It was just the first thing that came to my mind after what i read from Ben. But well sure. I am the Storyteller. My Ability is to roleblock (but the friendly kind). I hope you get what i am trying to tell you here. If not my 2ndmessage in D1 might explain it If you still have doubts, just tell them here. I try to answer them asap before the dayphase ends. As for my opinions on the current players: My gut-feeling tells me that either Nicki or Ali might be Mafia. (and i could always trust my gut feeling) Cause noone is trying to be bold or are doing the first steps of voting someone, i might start it: [Eliminate] Nicki

@Captain Breakfast Who is this Kiet you are talking about? Jeah Ben i am Kiet uwu Is Actress the Detective Role just alligned with the Mafia? And cause there is a role which could possibly be the Detective (Sleuth) and is confirmed to be alligned with Town, i don't know, which allignment Cass could belong to. But it could go either-way. Can you elaborate on that? Are you telling us that you might be the Vigilante and targeted Jace and the one who got roleblocked (in this case Ali) might be mafia? Well you also said that they might have targeted a protected person, but we can't really judge this. Cause the Doctor wouldn't just tell who he protected and we won't get much information who targeted that person. (but thats still an option)

Okay so basically Jace became a Ballgoer/Marauder (not sure if he can steal a Mafia role in this type of alteration, but who knows), while giving the old maid role to Bean. @Kabs In one of Ambers previous games, the Old Maid, couldn't change the role with Mafia (here: Marauders), which would be a good weapon to weed out the mafs. So i kinda agree with your reasoning. But the question would still be, who to hang instead of an obvious 3rd party at this point? Cause there isn't any better option, who comes to mind, and i don't think Jace is lying about this part: [Unvote] Alistair [Eliminate] Bean

I mean it was a random vote. Thought it would be funny to state something like this instead of saying RNGJesus has spoken. But seems like thats not the case. I don't have evidence to really start pointing fingers right now. Additionally I could have just voted Bean, cause he voted me, or Seal, Jace, L'Belle or myself, cause we haven't contributed much till now, but i didn't want it to end in a bandwagon. So i went for a randomvote first, before the dayphase ends and i didn't made a vote. Rather than commenting on someones choice, wouldn't it be better to give us your votes on a D1 without much information?

Yikes i totally forgot i signed in for a game OMG the Quote Function works again UwU That's a good approach. I like the idea, but unfortunately i am innocent. I haven't played so much Mafia and i don't really know a lot of roles. But there are possibly other roles who can roleblock people while having no ill intentions. As i was looking through the Roles in Epic Mafia and trying to compare those with the Roles here. With that there is also a possible outcome, that the Helper might be the Nurse (also cause she is alligned with the Physician). She can choose one person to save every night with the drawback that the protected person gets roleblocked. I mostly aggree with most of the roles that you guys put up together. Welp mostly cause i don't know much roles other then the basic ones Well i think i also have to make a vote: [Eliminate] Alistair Reason: Look at his Role

I wouldn't count the Vigilante kill out tbh. There are some peoples who like to play risky and hope for RNGJesus. Looking back at one game a Mafia died to a Random N0 Vigilante Action. So there is always the possibility. With that beeing the case, Mafia could have attacked someone who got protected. But who knows

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So if it's true that Hypurr is the last Mafia Member. We can assume that there won't be anymore Nightkills. Both 3rd Party Roles don't have a killing ability. I would really like to know what Venus role is (cause he is so eager to get it back). @Venus @Paul25 Mind telling us? If Alaris really still thinks Lykos is somehow Mafia/Traitor, we could ask Candy to investigate Lykos this following night. Not sure if we can trust Knightly, but we could visit him and turn him town. The best possible outcome would be if we can convert Mr.Knightly and kill the OldMaid, which Venus bypasses to someone

@Candy Probably your action failed, cause i was roleblocked. I also wanted to give you a visit I am assuming Nicki blocked me, if there isn't another roleblocker. Amber told me that the roleblocker and I would share an anonymous chat (while he is the messenger), but i got no response to my question So if supposedly Hypurr (Corso) is the last Scum, that would leave 2 3rd Party? Old Maid and the neutral role (Mr.Knightly). As we probably can trust Candys investigations, Hypurrs fate is sealed. You didn't live long to tell the tale [Eliminate] Hypurr Can we give the old maid role back to the original old maid and kill him/her I don't want to die @Alaris Maybe Lykos allignment shifted cause of those Mysteries? But wouldn't it make it to obvious, if he couldn't join the Chat again?

@Candy What i was implying, is that Nick in the last Games i played was killed pre Day 4. And as the list of Players in the Frontpage didn't get uploaded and i haven't started reading yet. I didn't ask Nick for a summary I read Candy already has an Idea what my role might be

Oh yes i remember getting pinged here by Amine @Bam the 25th ASK KIET MAYBE HE KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT IT also @CrimsonDragon21 WHAT DID ALARIS MEAN WHEN HE SAID TO ASK YOU :angryeyes: I am innocent and i have no clue what Alaris means Oof. Seems like i had some other targets when i was a roleblocker @NickCrash Well i thought you were already lynched at that point. Mafia likes to kill you early these days Surprisingly there really didn't happen much, but still a lot of reading to do. Did you confirm that Nicki was the Original Old Maid with the Beta thingy??? As it stands now, i have nothing to add here: [Eliminate] Seal

Hello Peeps I am the replacement for Cataline. I hope i can make her proud uwu It's only Day 4 why are we already at page 18. Do i really have to read through all of them? Gonna have some catching up to do

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@Alaris You said technically any faction can still win Let me tell you my thoughprocess: Cause Venus had 2 Kills Last night again, i assumed that the Restrainer is already dead. Cause why wouldn't Mafia Not roleblock Venus. As you can also See Venus Night Kill has priority over the Mafia kill or Lynch. And cause of that in the opening post, i assumed, that the votes from the people who died through Venus Night Ability aren't counted. So Venus only has to kill off the people who haven't voted for him and only has to vote for the player he wants to Lynch. And even If we are all voting Venus. In the end there is a tie happening. Cause Venus is now the Mayor, He can decide who to Lynch. So technically Venus decides on who wins. But If you Guys have another theory, i gladly hear you out.

Welp, gg wp Venus I really thought the Restrainer is still alive. But the night action already implied, that the Restrainer is long gone. So Venus already won the game. We really should have targeted him earlier (like Day 6 or 7). But well mistakes are made. We somehow concentrated on scumhunting while letting Venus free roam. And at the time we thought about killing Venus, it was already to late, cause we couldn't lynch him without loosing (for Town at least). At least Venus is the only winner @Mr. Knightly How? I thought i said enough to be considered Town. I even roleclaimed. Also i don't think there is a way to win with any other faction still remaining (like Bean pointed that out at least 3 times). Venus giving us hope with that Danganronpa Line @Venus Jeah you are like a Piñata. If you are killed, we get all those juicy Relics Also Venus. At least kill of Paul and Mr. Knightly. I don't want to get brutally murdered

@Mazino Divergent We also don't have any chance of winning, if Town doesn't even have the ability from the Vigilante or Cop. Venus is the only source where Town wouldn't loose to mafia. And by you voting him, it proves imo that you are a Mafia member. @Paul25 How did you come to this conclusion? He just can't resolve ties, if he gets restrained by the Restrainer. @Paul25 If you get target by Venus Opkillaction, there won't be any Mafia Nightkill. Lynch and Venus Opskill has a higher priority then the Mafia Factional Kill. And i think it would be to late to handle the factional Night Kill to Mr. Knightly, cause at that time his colleagues were still alive, so he wouldn't get the Factional Mafia Kill. And if you are the restrainer and target Venus, the Lynch still has a higher priority then the Mafia Nightkill. So no Mafia Member left to actually use it. Assuming that it works exactly as i said. You are in my eyes Mafia like Dive. Even a roleclaim wouldn't change that fact. @Psychic Bean Sheep Venus started as Town though. Maybe there is another wincondition we don't know of. But that also doesn't explain Venus killing off Townies. @Venus That was for which Mafia Faction would get the factional kill for the day. And thanks to the Gossipper, that was already revealed. Mafia factional kill rule: The faction that gets the kill will follow the following rule: first Mafia post in Day 1, second Mafia post in Day 2, third Mafia post in Day 3 and so on. If there are less mafia posts than the least required number (e.g., 5 posts in Day 7), the last group to post (5th post in the previous example) will get the kill ability that night. [You may not cast more Disclosing Votes on this role]. @Psychic Bean Sheep Why would you want to help the enemy? Sometimes i wonder why i vote you as the mayor. Can someone explain me, how you guys come to the conclusion that there are only 2 Mafia Members left? If you just look at Alaris post: Choose carefully who you lynch today, because the outcome of the game depends on it. That screams like a Misslynch will be the doom of us all. But i don't know. I did my part at explaining myself.

Thanks Alaris. That's the Info i needed. If Dive really got restrained the previous day and didn't fake it, we can safely assume, that either Nicki or Paul were/are the Restrainer. (When you believe me, that i am the spy) Their is so little information concerning the Ancient Being, that we don't know how to deal with it. But trusting Venus is the only option we have right now. Not sure if revealing Venus secret Ability would do us any harm tbh.

@Alaris Can the Restrainer restrain themself? Or can he only target other Players?

Just to be clear, voting Venus (even If he is the most Dangerous to us all) will just net the Mafia a free Win. Also Paul (Just als Venus said), how did you know, that Amber got restrained. As the game started there were 2 people who didn't post anything till your comment. Those were Amber and Venus. Only the Restrainer would know this or at least a Member in the Mafiachat. Sometimes saying less ist better @Paul25 And i don't know how you come to the conclusion that there are 4 Town and only 2 Mafia. If you Look at the rolelist and the dead players, there are still 3 Relic Hunters remaining. So thats my speculation: You thought there are only 2 Relic Hunters left, cause Mr. Knightly (Elite Spy) isn't in the Mafia Chat. But his allignment is still of Mafia and Relic Hunters. So the best course of action is to Lynch a Mafia (Dive, Paul or Mr. Knightly). And we should avoid a tie, so that the Restrainer can't roleblock the Mayor. Then the game will depend on the night action, rather then giving Mafia a free Win through Killing Venus.

@Psychic Bean Sheep Oh i had everything mixed up. I thought Nicki was part of the Relic Hunters and just assumed it like that. Thanks for giving me a wake-up call. So as you guys can see, if we kill off Venus we are likely to loose anyways. So that already confirms, that Dive is Mafia. Also Bean and @Paul25 i would recommend to vote Dive instead of Mr.Knightly, cause he isn't part of their Mafia Chat cause of his role. He can't coordinate with his fellow teammembers. I would think, that the Mafia Kills always alligned with the target of the Ancient Beeing. But we won't know that for sure. Also we don't know what the WIncondition of the Ancient Beeing is, but voting Venus nets us a loose anyways, so we rather lynch one mafia member now.

As we just look at the standings, we still have: 3 Towns 2 Relic Hunters 1 Petroleum Seeker 1 Third Party If we kill off Venus - we are almost giving Mafia a free win. After what Dive said, i consider him part of the Relic Hunters. As for the Role List based on everything that was beeing said. Digital Amber - Psychologist Bean - Twins and Major Myself - Spy Dive - Restrainer, if restraining themself is possible (or vice versa with Paul) Paul - Mr. Hyde/Shapeshifter (or vice versa with Dive) Mr. Knightly - Elite Spy Venus Ancient Being I am not sure about the roles of the Relic Hunters, but one of them is the Restrainer for sure. They restrained Dive, for him to look more Townie. So i would say for now: [Eliminate] Divergent [Disclose] Spy