Alisae

This isn't about helping each other this is about resolving a fight we don't want to continue because you took getting scumread personally (and its probably not a healthy game you should be playing if its what is happening) With D there is no resolution. And I'm trying to make a resolution. We don't have to help each other in said resolution, just not fight with each other for the rest of the game because of said resolution until we're forced to 1v1. If you have other reads you want to come out with, I would like to hear them, but I doubt people are going to follow you because you want to push me because you took being scumread personally. @Jace Stormkirk Covered it in the Danganropa game already. tl;dr is A. If you're not allow to edit your posts, then you're allow to multipost and B. I cannot keep my thoughts straight, and its a lot easier for me to spew them like a stream of consciousness. This is a bit better. The simple version is, at some point during the day, you say "if I was a cop, I investigated PERSON night 0 and they came up as town." when talking about a townread then never suspect them till atleast D2 or D4. Why did you out the information you had? Also do you have any reads you can share atm? Specificly on Evi, Bazaro, and Venus?

Actually @Quinn, there are some options here, because I want a peaceful resolution, mostly because butting heads like this isn't healthy. And in the event we're both town, we need to be able to work together since this is a team game. Like, at the end of the day his a huge ego battle. Like, I think you're a cool person, and I like you. I'm sorry for somethings I've said, but at this point, there's 3 things we can do. A. We can continue to egg on each other forever. I don't really think this is a good time for the both of us to egg each other on currently. I don't think there ever WILL be a time for us to egg each other on. B. One of us can try to ignore each other. However, this sends the message that we can both be bullied. I don't think either of us can be bullied. Or and this is the option I am trying to go with atm. C. Diffuse. Do we want an ego battle with each other now and what would probably be till one of us flips? I don't. Granted if we are forced into a position where we have to 1v1 each other, I will hardpush you, but hte day is still young. I want to try to get you back into the game, its day 1, and there is like what, half of the game that remains unsorted? We should be focusing on sorting those slots not going after each others throats because I said things that you took a bit too harshly that weren't meant to be taken that harshly. pedit: @purplecicada Scum NEVER randomly fakeclaim something like that. They will always prep their claims in advance. Can you explain what feels off? I'm mostly just trying to sort people and gamesolve atm so...

Quinn, can you give me a read on Jace/Bazaro?

Yeah I'm town so... Have fun trying to policy me I guess.

@Quinn If you think me and Evi are scum together come vote Evi and help me bus. I think if Evi flips scum, you're probably town. @Eviora I don't like how you're sitting on the fence with this, mostly because it seems like you're trying to calm us down (and there isn't anything really WRONG with how I was pushing Quinn btw, I've said much worse imo) without really getting your hands dirty and taking a hard stance on the fight. Also I really don't like how self-conscious you currently are, because I don't think town is going to be THAT self-conscious.

Like okay yeah sure Quinn can be town Vote: Eviora

No one fos'es you besides Quinn?

Amine Chankey3ft7 was shot. He was a Mafia Goon.

I read a bit of sailboat's game. Granted that's not mafia. But I'm not basing my read on you on how you play. I just saw what content you provided and thought it was coming from scum.

They probably were.

Well, they would lie to you if groupscum didn't really like your targets.

Look man if you have any messenges you should probably not trust them since they're coming from scum.

@Newt even then they're probably lieing to you. @Lord Drakyle same here. @Messenger I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what you want. If you are looking for my role, I can tell you I don’t have a very important one. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you out yourself now, that’ll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

@DigitalAmber Role is not alignment indicative and that is fakeclaimable. Play is a far more indicator of alignment then role is. If you're going to defend Quinn, please give me something that's not their role, because I don't care about that. Sure, you could argue that their reaction to being pushed is coming from town, but I can't see it. To me it just looks like scum giving up. Like, look at her motivations. She scumread me, and when I started to push her she got frustrated? Why would she be upset if she thinks I'm scum pushing her? To me, thats indicative of mixed motivations and moreso thinking I'm town. Like the only way her response makes sense is if she townreads me, and I don't recall her really announce a TR on me.

Why is soso getting votes again apart from Quinn's vote?

@sosobean the way jace questioned me in that exact same post implies he saw me visit newt.

Paul is probably town?

Bazaro was shot night 3. He was a Vanilla Townie. The following abilities are up for auction now! 1-shot Auction Detective 2-shot Ninja 1-shot Jailkeeper 1-shot Commuter

@Venus It's not that you're defending them, its the way you are defending them. How is way more important then what. I'm explaining things to the best of my ability, tho I kinda don't think you're reading or trying to understand me, considering the fact I asked you something that got ignored. If you want a tl;dr, its that your read is unnatural and its indicative of A. Not reading and/or blantly ignoring things that have happened in the thread and B. Not attempting to sort our alignments and opportunism. So can you tell us what other reads you have currently? @Paul25 Can you tell me how you approach the game as scum and town?

Quinn I don't really care about roles. I don't think Role is alignment indicative I think play is.

Like for example, let's take a look at Venus' push. to me this is a push that reads as if they had their mind made up before they even made the post. I don't get the sense they're evaluating things naturally, and not many of their points are actually valid, if anything they're mostly reaching for something to use against me. It looks like a fabricated push. It's also indicative that he is either A. Not reading or B. Blatantly ignoring all discussion that was made on the strat. When it comes to the strat, this is clearly a sign of B. So I'd think it makes sense if Quinn is scum with Venus, for Venus to come attack me like he is currently. HOWEVER when it comes to the messenges, the fact that these messages are possibly coming from a wolf is something I covered earlier, which makes me think he could just not be reading. It's not something I'm willing to go after right now mostly becuase I feel like I will get a better grasp on Venus' alignment depending on Quinn's flip, and its not really a strong read since there are some doubts in there. @Venus Do you have any other reads you want to share with us?

Actually, there is one thing I might clear up. Just because I am "experienced" at the game doesn't mean I am the most cunning manipulator you will ever meet. I'm not THAT good. Being experienced means I played the game more and know more about the game. Experience isn't really something thats indicative of skill, its indicative of knowledge. Granted I think my scumplay could fool people here early, later in the game I think I would probably get caught as scum mostly because people are worried I'd endgame them as scum. If you think I am a wolf and I am still alive the day before XyLo, you're welcome to lynch me. I will always fight back against my lynch because thats what is expected of me as either alignment, not to mention as town, I get my best reads from people pushing me.

Actually if anyone did recieve messages during the night, they should probably claim that too since its helpful information.

I really don't like these messages. The first round was sent while I was asleep and the 2nd round being sent out now is concerning. I think someone who is just not posting is sending the messages and laughing at us in the background. Quinn, I'm not sending them messages since my only action is at night. I'm not sure how you're making the correlation that I'm sending the messages when the word scummy is a pretty generic word. I just happen to be posting, and that's all I really see your conclusion being based off of? pedit: Hi Venus. I don't think anything you're saying about Quinn is really alignment indicative. We're specificly protecting the cop because that's the role that gives clear, accurate results, and a cop with a night 0 is extremely strong. Sure it could be done with other roles, but the thing is, I am protecting the cop because for the millions of reasons why I went over in thread already. I think @Newt can confirm if I'm the messenger or not based off of if he got any messenges night 0. Because I believe Jace confirmed that I visited newt. Lets go over these points as well. 1. I already addressed this in thread multiple times on why I thought it was a good idea. 2. Why is this alignment indicative? We can literally speculate on what role is what based on the flavor provided by Dive in his first post. 3. I don't understand how you can reasonably connect this to me. ppedit: Occam's suggests that soso's post isn't alignment indicative and is just soso shitposting. Like I really do not think that post is alignment indicative, so I guess I just disagree?

I mean I just got another message as well and am reading it now. I am also reading what you said now, can you get back to to me on Bazaro and Jace when you get the chance? If me and Evi wanted to distance from each other, I feel like we both would make a way bigger deal out of it then it actually was, and clog up the thread and make the thread about us two. I want to know why that makes soso scum? I guess I can see why you'd think he's not a cop (and even then, talking about who is and isn't a cop is really anti-town) but I'm not really seeing the dots being connected? Sorry if I'm just really misunderstanding you.