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For Dedenne it also works, without mods, with a pokemon having Static as the lead.
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I had the feeling (from the pyramid or maybe before even) that the futuristic duo isn't working for Madame X, but working with her. Like they both have symilar goals (probably concerning Storm-9) but Kieran actually does give the player access to Valor Mountain so they can foil team Xen plans
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As much as Crescent kicks Nancy around, I think we've seen black boxes from actual living characters before in V13. Maybe all of Nancy's angst is about being a clone or a copy instead of just being fake.
Or maybe the captain is in the game with crescent and playing among, yes
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5 hours ago, Charon said:
Honestly for a long time I've been assuming it was some alternate timeline Melia (obviously from a timeline where things went really bad), with the armor both restricting her power and preventing the universe from erasing her somehow. But that was mostly predicated on how I recall her being very adamant she not touch Melia or Marianette in the Bad Timeline after she explained what happens when the someone comes in contact with their counterpart, and finding that odd.
Also, I wonder if Melia absorbing Alternate Marianette has anything to do with why she has Genesis Syndrome?
I seem to recall that Melia didn't absorb the Princess so much as she destroyed her. The "princess" appearing in hermind is just her imagination/reflection.
And yeah, Huey being lord Xenadin would be the perfect plot twist lol
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1 minute ago, vepper said:
This one's a long shot, as I feel more that we're going to have one more battle with her to finish the sidequest line somewhere as our final battle with her for her star shard maybe in V14-15 (I doubt 13.5 for some reason), I'm gonna take a guess - but is it possible Novae would have gotten strong enough to be an Elite 8 member by the time you actually reach that point yourself? By the least she'd be strong enough to get all the badges or close to it.
More of a crackpot guess and one that makes no sense if you didn't do her questline, but it may be possible the E8 is somewhat variable due to the fact Karen can die, so maybe she'd pull that off if you help her get far enough. It'd be kind of cool to see you helped her get this far, but I still feel the chances are pretty low.
Oof, yeah, I knew I was forgetting somethig. I don't know if we battled all her sisters yet, but maybe Novae will be an elite 8. Or the complete Star will summon her mother, who is (?)
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Just now, dragonsbeat said:
if i remember correctly didn't cairo react when he met nim, I think he has a bigger role than we think
He probably reacted because he can feel evil or something like that and Nim is the embodiement of a natural disaster. Thats how I interpreted it
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16 minutes ago, CandyRock said:
Crescent definitely SEEMS plausible at first sight but then again Celine would never have picked someone as vengeful as her even if she found her to be quite an asset to the league, but if we are talking about her strength as a trainer all bets are off. it would make a good plot twist though and when it comes to rejuvenation and plot twists both go hand in hand.
Katsu: we don't know much about her and her backstory so yeah until we get more info on her we can't say for sure, though i do see Celine recruiting her and being able to sympathize with her as a mother and because she is Nastasia's mother she's bound to be quite strong physically and mentally.
v: wouldn't Dylan recognize her as a fellow elite 8 member?
Did anyone say something about e8 having to be, not just "not vengeful" but straight mentally sound? If Karen can be e8, then Crescent for sure can. It's even possible she was chosen in the past and just got angrier.
for the V thing, we don't know V's face I think, neither does Dylan. And even if he did, it's not guaranteed they know each other: Venam didn't know half the gym leaders (didn't even know where Amber was, and her gym was in a vacational resort lol) so it could be that they just didn't talk about it (?)
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Hmmm I wouldn't put Cairo, not bc his role is small, but bc he's pretty recent (at least I didn't know about him prior to v13, so... Mosely has been in danger before and in need of saving so I find it difficult to think she's a very strong traier, and Cella doesn't look like the fighter type. Autustus looks like an interesting option but again, didn't battle anyone yet when attacked by Team Xen.
My suggestions:
- Crescent/Dahlia: We know she's very strong, is adamantly against team Xen, and seems to be very advanced. We will fight her sooner or later, and an official match for Elite 8 would be a good twist.
- V: We know little about her and so do the characters ingame. We know she's powerful (at least economically and in GDC's underground) and helps Bladestar, which makes her anti-Xen as well. She could be another known character or not, but she's a celebrity and worthy of a place.
- Katsu Bellarossa: Nastasia's mom, not very plausible because she's from other time and probably either died in Storm-9 or is involved with Team Xen. But she could be as well.
- Deagan: He's definetly not a member right now, but he's alive, looked like he had a change of ways since WLL, and is out of work from the moment Alice takes up his role as gym leader. It would be a stretch but very funny if both he and Tesla were in the e8.
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I'll have to train a Frisk pokémon to search for those held items lol... and I guess it won't be so easy as to use Thief, it can only be done with the Trick-Fling-Recycle combo?
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Wasn't it the actual Super Rod? And a Froakie isn't so bad as a Reward, when you can solve all those grinding with Audino trainers and Exp candies lol. I mean, yeah, its pretty long, but it's not mandatory.
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If you go fast through certain sections of the maze (iirc the southeast corner) you can trap it in a closed passage since it doesn't know to take detours and go back. Then you can save and rest a little.
But yeah it's probably the worse part of Marianette's arc (together with the tangrowth part) and one of the reasons I liked a lot more v12's version of it (the main reason was how unexplained it remained, like the MC went there to fetch Venam for another quest and then it was just there)
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Well I already got past the Valor summit battle (thanks to Wide Guard by Mr. Mime and a lot of moves affecting both enemies lol) and now I'm up against Amber, but I'll look through the suggestions, thanks!
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The thing I found is that you're not spending red essence by offering it, but checking: offering litle red essence (I think it was like 500 or so?) a hundred times is not going to fill anything. You need to offer the biggest option and then it will work.
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The cloning thing would help explain why the time difference (Maria had 10 years in Kugearen, around 40 years ago) and why Melia, an original component of the Archetype, gets rejected by it. They may had wanted to sped up her process with Zetta or maybe they were created as alternatives at the same time, a Solosis and just a clone.
Anathea's children not being biologically hers is shown in V13 when Indriad wishes for them to appear from Arceus.
And her behavior could be that she just forgot about the MC or that this is an alternative version of whoever it is.
I think we could also take into account Nastasia's figure into account, not as Madame X's identity, but as someone important to her: she seems to do whatever she wants without any of the fear Madame X inspires in the rest of the Xen cast, Madelis notes that she has nothing on the line to fight for, we know she cares for Maria and remembers the past pretty well, and Xen HQ is in her old company's place. For me it points to Madame X being her mom (not very probable) or one of the Theolias (Anathea getting revenge for Maria, Marinette opposing her father...)
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10 minutes ago, Juice said:
Regenerator Tangrowth is always fun
it does have the mixed attacker problem though, but I went the special route and have Giga Drain/Sludge Bomb (I believe you'll get it soon enough, I'm not that much past you in the game right now and I have it), which is all you really need. I kept Knock Off on because Knock Off is never a bad option. Then the 4th slot you can run Stun Spore/Sleep Powder depending on how you play.
of course this is kinda moot since you're not really touching Rillaboom, SORRY
Yeah I was already eyeing a Regenerator Tangrowth as an alternative lol thanks
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I don't know where the bit about Madame X's mother is from. I could see her being Anathea, it has been said (either Hiyoshi City or Zone Zero) she had originally dark hair (the golden scheme was from the Archetype, and her children we know are not biologically from her). She also would have a strong reason to oppose Indriad. She was the one who had Melia originally (and then gave her to Jenner) so I could see it tying up with the Melia-is-Maria's clone theory: Madame X took the Archetype from Maria/Marianette and gave it to a clone to harvest it later and use it as a weapon against Indriad.
Regarding him, he was absorbed by Anjou in a flashback shown in Angie's arc, although I'm not sure if it was "real" or just "metaphorical" lol
I could also see Madame X being Marianette with the rest of the theory keeping the same (taking the Archetype from herself and giving it to a clone etc).
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I have a Froslass in the previous playthrough and also like to include Sheer Force Nidoking whenever possible (Life Orb is still far away but well). In regards to the Prankster Meowstic, I have the female Competitive version so I would have to breed another one from zero but having seen how it went my first try vs Geara and Zetta, yeah, I may as well do it. How could I get the maximum capability from what I already have? I agree that sometimes I feel they're not at their best so I would be interested in that lol
And I think Sludge Bomb isn't avaiable to me at this point yet.
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I recently started over Rejuvenation v13, and somehow haven't been able to maintain a balanced semi-stable team, being forced to train or even breed new mons for each big challenge. I realize this is somewhat inevitable, the game's difficult and all that, but I would like some advice in how to build a semi-stable team to go through the game. Specially now that I'm at the point I'm about to enter Mt Valor and the Geara/Zetta battle is around the corner... Thanks in advance, current level cap is just before Amber, so around lv 55.
Already trained pokémon (which I change constantly for each big battle lol)
SpoilerRillaboom (Grassy Surge): Knock Off, Drum Beating, Endeavor, Screech
Nidoking (Sheer Force): Earth Power, Rock Tomb, Surf, Poison Jab
Froslass (Cursed Body): Shadow Ball, Ice Shard, Thunder Wave, Blizzard
Mr. Mime (Filter); Wide Guard, Dazzling Gleam, Psychic, Teeter Dance
Fused Solrock (Solar Idol): Zen Headbutt, Cosmic Power, Psychic, Rock Slide
Houndoom (Early Bird): Flamethrower, Roar, Foul Play, Snarl
Beheeyem (Analytic): Recover, Psychic, Signal Beam, Charge Beam
Quagsire (Unaware): Muddy Water, Toxic, Earthquake, Recover
Pangoro (Scrappy): Body Slam, Hammer Arm, Bullet Punch, Night Slash
Somewhat trained (like candidates to be included):
SpoilerCrobat: Cross Poison, Steel Wing, Brave Bird, Leech Life
Dusclops: Will-o-Wisp, Confuse Ray, Hex, Shadow Ball
Mawile: Iron Head, Fire Fang, Crunch, Feint Attack
Golurk: Heavy Slam, Stomp Tantrum, Mega Punch, Dynamic Punch
Togetic (in training, from the Mystery Egg)
I know I lack certain types and lean to others lol I tend to favor event or significant pokémon
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Aelita is a reincarnation of Vivian/Taelia, but simultaneously she's her own self, shaped by her experiences, like being Keta's daughter instead of wife, etc.
I find it interesting, in regards to Maria/Marianette/Melia, that we've seen her live in two different lives: The house in Zorrialyn coast and in the prologue, where Maria watched Indriad sacrifice Anathea, and then Chrisolia Manor, where we battle Marianette, and also see the original Maria in Kugearen and Anathea also gets sacrificed. Then we know Melia is given to Dr. Jenner by team Xen (Madame X) until she grows up.
Normal-type gym leader Marianette seems plausible to be an alternate reality (the badge is not recognized but seeminly official) but given both the house in Zorrialyn and Chrisolia Manor (now Hotel) both exist in the "main" timeline, I guess Indriad could have tried using Maria (to bring Arceus or take Arceus' power) more than once and then resetting things once it didn't work.
After v13 it could be also possible that Melia is actually Maria's clone, which explains her rejection of the Archetype/her Genesis syndrome. She would have been just a vessel for the Archetype to be harvested by Madame X, be her future Melia/Maria, Future Erin (I can't stop thinking of her wanting to play Devil to Indriad's god) or even alternate Anathea, who was described to be of darker constitution before the Archetype.
SpoilerOr maybe Madame X is actually Celine/Celine's clone, also an individual with a dark palette and opposing Indriad. maiming her original body or another one would be an easy way to put herself out of the way, being in a healing pod really puts someone out of focus(harms way.
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I have found Mankey in the exterior of the Sheridan Wetlands (the "mysterious shore" I think its called) and I'm sure Arbok spawns in Zorrialyn dessert around the area with the Poiloethal Forest (idk if I misspelled, the red forest lol)
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to the moment v13.5 gets released, I think. You're at the end of the sidequest by now iirc
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I'm not sure if it's some condition that changed, or just a bug, but there are several places where the wild encounters just don't happen to me in tall grass (they DO happen while surfing, and the overworld encounters) like Route 4, Yui's Ranch area (the zone with the stantler/dodrio), Zorrialyn desert, and the Darchlight Woods, although I think there are more. EDIT: Also Sheridan Wetlands (which has overworld gastrodon) but not Route 6 (which has overworld krabby).
There are overworld encounters in all these zones so it may have something with that.
EDIT: I have just realized that I posted the thread in the wrong forum, if someone could move it to Troubleshooting I would be grateful :)
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For me it was the (bugged) double leftovers-wish-misty field Florges, as most of Melia's team is Sp.Atk
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Yeah, I'm certain Melia's AI in chapter 15 remembered soft-resets and items by my pokemon lol
One more attempt to figure out Madame X identity [Spoilers, obviously]
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Ana is most likely a Garufan android, since we know for sure Garufans wiped pokemon from the world: they later tried to save it using kids with the Archetype, as we saw in the facilities Melia and co. visited in V13.
And I thought the caught death wing was erased because he was, well, captured, and then wasn't of any utility to Madame X, who, we know, is seemingly able to erase her pawns at will. From what we know from every Xen personnel, they are just normal people (maybe each Admin has their quirk, but we know Geara's background, Zetta's, and sort of Nastasia's).
Maybe Madame X is from another universe, yeah. And I see Erin becoming her in an Alternate universe where Indriad takes her as a heiress instead of Marianette/Maria, who seems to be more sentimental and ends up opposing him with the MC and Venam. As a more rational Individual, Alternative Erin would be able to share Indriad's views, thus creating Madame X. I recall Melanie (the Princess) talking about her Father in the Doomed Timeline in the same way Madame X talks about hers.