Shamitako

I don't think anyone (outside sort of Sparky) has actually argued against the right of homosexuals to marry here. The arguments here are more about how gay marriage should be handled (I mean, if I were arguing against it that'd be more than a bit hypocritical of me since I have every intention to marry my girlfriend)

You outright said they should either be forced to bake the cake or not do business at all :/

http://www.pokemonreborn.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15807#entry363051

...Did you really just equate baking a cake to human sacrifice?

Right, so we agree here. We just disagree on what level and I don't really see any way to change that so I'm going to drop it now And... TBH I'm glad Alabama did that. Nobody can get married, that's fair. All it's going to do is bring attention to the issue (and upset a bunch of people who want to get married obvs) until they start allowing marriages again. Though in this case it will mostly be negative attention for all parties involved so there's that... Things like this are the main reason I was against universally forcing states to accept homosexual marriages. But I figure they'll sort themselves out eventually so it's not the end of the world

[13:38:59] KittehMiss: I think I have everything packed for my trip. But I guarantee that I'm missing something.

The Bible was also used as one of the primary arguments against discrimination and slavery for equally long And I think I already made it clear that I favor people's rights to bigotry but I'll restate it anyways The difference between skin color and sexual orientation is that one is quite literally written on your skin. Thus in most scenarios they aren't actually comparable

Well, look at it this way: Is the seller's religious right or the person's right to life more important? (Hint, one of these is considered a fundamental human right owo) As opposed to the seller's religious rights and the consumer's... um, right to purchase a cake at their wedding? (IDK what right allows people to buy stuff) which of those is worth more? Basically: Life>Seller and Seller=Consumer

Tchaikovsky syndrome ... In B minor owo

No, I was referring to shops in cases like the ones Jericho mentioned I don't know that the church gets money for marrying people so it doesn't really apply in the same way

Pretty much this. If their refusal is going to kill me then that's akin to murder and should be dealt with

On right of refusal (in this case I'll be focusing on businesses) I definitely think they should be allowed to refuse to serve whomever they like for whatever reason they like. That's their problem. If they don't want to serve me, they're the ones losing a customer, not me. If they don't want to serve gay people, or Muslims, or Native Americans, then let them. They're a private business after all, aren't they? And in doing so, they lose paying customers who are in one of these groups they refuse or who take issue with them refusing certain people groups TL;DR Refusing gay people service is bad for business, but they should be allowed to do it anyways

This, I know this feeling all to well Whenever my mother tells me she loves me now, all I hear is "I love who I want you to be." It's extremely painful to realize you aren't even really loved by your own mother

[22:23:17] +Abbey Street: although you know I would happily be your personal neko maid

Is K, I can't understand why anyone would have those feelings towards a male in any scenario, so you're not alone owo

This so much I'm actually really impressed with the lack of "wolves." It's rare for anywhere on the internet to stay civil on these matters. Well done Reborn, if I had a cookie I'd give it to you

See Sparky, I told you to run owo

I actually played a Nautilus against a mid Varus the other day. I forget what role I was tho. Basically, he's gonna site back and poke, so either your carries need to dodge that (yeah right) or you need to lock him down long enough for your hopefully more mobile carries to get to him. The best way to do this is to Flash Ulti>Hook>E(for damage)>AA>W (cancels animation)>AA>E (for slow and damage). So basically your normal combo. You'll most likely get his Flash and/or ulti and he'll be out of position and thus out of the fight. Or possibly he'll try to stay put in which case all you have to do is keep him focused on you so your teammates can cut through his team and clean him up after the fight In other news, more people need to see this and then become unable to un-see it owo http://prntscr.com/7ltl5z

8/10, same as last time

I'm fairly certain several US states have adopted laws such as these

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I would suggest running before the wolves get to you *Goes to the corner of homosexual people who really don't care either way*

...K, need game nao

...Well, no guarantees I'll be of any use or even online. But I will be very happy to join the Ice faction next time I'm on ^^