chasedawg98 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) @ Leftovers Trait: Torrent EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Stealth Rock - Scald - Ice Beam - Grass Knot @ Leftovers Trait: No Guard EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def) - DynamicPunch - Shadow Punch - Earthquake - Rock Polish @ FlameTrait: Guts EVs: 252 HP / 248 Atk Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Mach Punch - Drain Punch - Stone Edge - Payback @ ChoiceTrait: Shadow Tag EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Heat Wave - Shadow Ball - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [ice] @ ChoiceTrait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Draco Meteor - Dark Pulse - Focus Blast - Fire Blast Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 HP / 72 Atk / 184 Def Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd) - Gyro Ball - Leech Seed - Power Whip - Curse BallsOfSteel (Empoleon) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Torrent EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Stealth Rock - Scald - Ice Beam - Grass Knot O GAWD! (Golurk) @ Leftovers Trait: No Guard EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def) - DynamicPunch - Shadow Punch - Earthquake - Rock Polish ROIDZ (Conkeldurr) (M) @ Flame Orb Trait: Guts EVs: 252 HP / 248 Atk Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Mach Punch - Drain Punch - Stone Edge - Payback BONG! (Chandelure) (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Shadow Tag EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Heat Wave - Shadow Ball - Energy Ball - Hidden Power [ice] Amanda (Hydreigon) (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Draco Meteor - Dark Pulse - Focus Blast - Fire Blast Ow My Balls! (Ferrothorn) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 HP / 72 Atk / 184 Def Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd) - Gyro Ball - Leech Seed - Power Whip - Curse Threats:Alakazam- Chandelure can OHKO it before calm minds, and hydreigon laughs at it Blaziken- He can't touch chandy Breloom- Chandelure says hi Chandelure- Chandelure can come in after he is locked into say flamethower, hydreigon wrecks his shit, and he can't touch empoleon, oh and golurk says hi Chansey- Golurk can easily come in and set up on it, and conkeldurr wrecks her shit Cloyster- After a shell smash, conkeldurr can easily OHKO with a mach punch Conkeldurr- Poses a large threat, hydreigon can outspeed with scarf tho and OHKO with draco meteor Ditto- Lolz I only have one setup sweeper (golurk). So if he transforms into golurk, hydreigon can outspeed him after one rock polish and OHKO with dark pulse Dragonite- XD really? Chandelure can easily come in and OHKO with hp ice, empoleon walls the fuck out of dnite and can OHKO with ice beam, conkeldurr can OHKO with stone edge, Hydreigon can outspeed it after 1 dragon dance and OHKO it, and ferrothorn can wall it if its either locked into outrage or carrys earthquake instead of fire punch Espeon- Chandelure traps and kills it, Hydreigon laughs at it, and empoleon walls it provided it doesn't carry hp fighting Ferrothorn- Lol chandelure says hi. Oh, and so does hydreigon, golurk, and conkeldurr. AND empoleon can and ferrothorn can wall the fuck out of it. How this even came up on the threatlist, I have no idea Garchomp- Chandelure can outspeed the non-scarfed variant and kill it with hp ice, Hydreigon can also outspeed the non-scarfed variant and kill it. Empoleon walls it and kills it with ice beam, ferrothorn walls it and can kill it after a couple curses with power whip Genesect- Chandy can easily trap it and kill it, hydreigon can outspeed and kill it, provided it's not scarfed Gengar- Chandelure can trap it and kill it, hydriegon can outspeed it and kill it, empoleon walls the fuck out of it, and conkeldurr can EASILY live a shadow ball and kill with payback Gliscor- Derp. This is why I carry hp ice on chandelure, and empoleon kills it with ice beam Gyarados- Once of the biggest threats to my team, conkeldurr can OHKO with stone edge, and ferrothorn can wall it, widdle it down with leech seed, and setup Haxorus- lol don't know where the sprite went? Chandelure can kill it with hp ice, and hydreigon can kill it Heatran- Golurk laughs at it, so does conkeldurr, and hydreigon can kill it with focus blast Hydreigon- empoleon can kill it with ice beam, conkeldurr laughs at it, chandy can kill it provided it's not scarfed, and golurk can kill it as long as it cant get off an dark pulse Jellicent- conkeldurr MURDERS it with payback after the scald, hydreigon can easily 2HKO it with dark pulse, and ferrothorn walls the shit out of it Jirachi- Chandelure, derp Jolteon- Golurk kills it, and almost everything on my team can hit it for good neutral damage Latios- Empoleon kills it, golurk can kill it after he has set up, chandelure can kill it, hydreigon can kill it, ferrothorn walls the fuck out of it, and conkeldurr can kill it with payback, hoping he doesn't carry psyshock Lucario- Chandelure laughs at it, so does conkeldurr, Golurk easily kills it after he has set up, and hydreigon can kill it with fire blast Machamp- 2 ghost types, derp Metagross- chandelure traps and kills it, hydreigon kills it, conkeldurr can live zen headbutts all day and kill it, golurk kills it, and ferrothorn can wall the hell out fo it as long as it doesnt carry hammer arm Mienshao- chandelure can trap it and OHKO with heat wave and shadow ball Porygon2- conkeldurr can kill it but that doesnt mean that porygon 2 isn't an annoying asshole Reuniclus- hydreigon can 2HKO it before any calm minds, but if it sets up, I'm screwed >.< Rotom-W- this motherfucker can burn in hell!!! Ferrothorn walls it and can use it as setup fodder as long as it doesnt carry the hp fire, chandelure can kill it with energy ball, and empoleon can do decent damage with grass knot Salamence- See dragonite Scizor- chandy traps it and kills it, hydreigon can easily live a bullet punch and kill it as well Scrafty- golurk's dynamic punch almost OHKO's it and I can usually get confusion hax, conkeldurr wrecks it Serperior- <--- Totally serperior lol, ferrothorn can trap it and kill it, hydreigon can trap it and kill it, and ferrothorn walls the fuck out of it Skarmory- XD chandelure says hi Slowbro- Hydreigon says hi Tentacruel- Can be kinda tricky, ferrothorn and empoleon wall it, and golurk can OHKO it with earthquake as long as it doesn't have any investment in defense Terrakion- conkeldurr says hi, especially after a couple close combats , and golurk makes quick work of him Thundurus- Chandelure hp ice ftw, empoleon can live an unboosted tbolt and kill it with ice beam, conkeldurr kills it with stone edge Togekiss- Empoleon walls it and kills it with ice beam, chandy can kill with hp ice, ferrothorn can wall it, easily set up and kill it with gyro ball, conkeldurr can live an air slash (I think >.<) and kill it with stone edge Tyranitar- golruk and conkeldurr laugh at it, and ferrothorn sets up and laughs at it even more XD Volcarona- I have stealth rocks... Whimsitroll- I hate this little shit, chandelure can kill it provided it can"t get up a leech seed Zapdos- See thundurus Celebi- you know the drill, chandelure traps and kills it and hydreigon can kill it with dark pulse or fire blast, and ferrothorn walls it, Darmanitan- dont see him very much but hydreigon can outspeed the scarfed variant and kill it, conkeldurr can easily kill it especially after flare blitz recoil, empoleon can live a flare blitz and kill it with scald, golurk laughs at it after he has set up Heracross- Chandelure traps and kills it, hydreigon kills with fire blast Mandibuzz- XD Quagsire- Empoleon has grass knot and this is why I carry energy ball on chandelure. And ferrothorn, DERP Sableye- he's pretty anoying but chandelure can take care of him with shadow ball and he can't touch conkeldurr since he likes to be burned Sigilyph- See every other flying type on the list Smeargle- Guts boosted mach punch lulz Starmie- Grass knot, shadow ball, dark pulse, and ferrothorn all take care of it easily Suicune- Never really see it much (especially since this is a league team derp) but ferrothorn can wall it easily and take it out Toxicroak- I HATE THIS BASTARD Virizion- Chandelure... lol Hippowdon+Excadrill- Conkeldurr says hi Tyranitar+Landorus- Chandelure and empoleon say hi Ninetales+Venusaur- Chandelure says hi Abomasnow+Walrein- Conkeldurr and chandelure say hi Politoed+Kingdra- ferrothorn walls the shit out of this combo Politoed+Ludicolo- this combo is a little harder to deal with but ferrothorn still walls it Politoed+Vaporeon- ferrothon derp Chansey+Skarmory- Chandelure laughs at this Scizor+Rotom-W- Chandelure laughs at scizor and ferrothorn laughs at rotom Ferrothorn+Jellicent- For like the over 9000th time, chandelure says hi. And hydreigon laughs at jellicent Descriptions: Empoleon: My Special Wall/Hazards Setter. I used swampert at first. However he just wasn't getting the job done as well as i had hoped he would. So I thought about bulky water types that can set up rocks and immediately, empoleon came to mind. Ever since I switched I have loved him. He can spounge water attacks for chandy and golurk, ice attacks for hydriegon, fire attacks for ferrothorn, rock attacks for chandelure, and grass attacks for golurk. He has great synergy with the rest of my team and he also has a great base special attack stat so he can deal out good amounts of damage. Scald is for stab and those very helpful burn hax . Ice beam makes quick work of any dragon type and also takes out gliscor which can wall my team very well after chandelure is gone. Grass knot is to take out water types that can wall my team well and it also deals great damage to common leads such as politoed and Rotom-Wash. Golurk: My Setup Sweeper/Late-Game Sweeper/Spin-Blocker. Golurk is a freaking monster!!! IMO, he is very underrated and is one if the best late game sweepers in the metagame. He can come in on pokemon that he threatens and set up very easily on the switch with rock polish. He can take fighting attacks for ferrothorn and usually setup as the opponent will typically switch out. Dynamicpunch is for the great power, hax, and coverage it provides. Gotta love those hax . Shadow punch is for stab and i usually find myself using it for neutral damage on flying types trying to come in and stop my sweep. Earthquake is for powerful stab. And rock polish is to set up, golurk reaches 418 speed with max speed and an admant nature, effectively outspeeding any non-scarfed poke in the tier (not sure about ninjask before boosts) after just one rock polish. Lefties as oposed to life orb because i like my setup sweeper to be able to recover hp because I want them to last longer. Chandelure: My Trapper/Hit-and-run Attacker/Spin Blocker. Chandelure besides being my favorite pokemon this generation, is an extremely important part of my team. His ability to trap and take out threats is unmatched by any other poke in the tier. He has amazing coverage and acts as a great switch in against fire type and fighting type attacks aimed at ferrothorn, and fighting type attacks aimed at empoleon and hydreigon. I use a modest nature because with a scarf he hits 381 speed, outspeeding 95% of the tier already. So i like the power that modest nature provides even if he is not going to be able to outspeed the likes of timid jolteon, jolly aerodactyl, ect. After all chandelure has the highest special attack stat in OU, might as well use it to its full potential. Heat wave is used as oposed to fire blast because its more reliable and as oposed to flamethower because of the high amount of doubles and triples in the league. Shadow ball is used as a powerful stab that hits most things for great neutral damage, and kills ghost types that threaten chandelure. Energy ball is used to kill off bulky water types that wall chandelure such as swampert and gastrodon. It can OHKO rotom-Wash as well without any special defense investment which is probably the #1 threat to my team. Hp ice is used for the awesome coverage it gets. It allows chandy to trap and kill threats like gliscor, landorus, dragonite, and salamence and they cant do a thing about it . Hydreigon: My Revenge Killer/Hit-And-Run Attacker/Wall Breaker. Where do I even begin with this beast? Hydreigon is an absolute powerhouse and is an awesome check to many common threats in OU. He sports very unique and great typing which allow him to get great coverage which makes him such a great check to these common threats. Not to mention he has great synergy with my team. He can absorb psychic attacks aimed at conkeldurr, take ground type attacks aimed at chandelure, empoleon, and ferrothorn, take fire attacks aimed at ferrothorn, and take dark and ghost type attacks aimed at chandelure and golurk. With a scarf he hits blisteringly high speeds making him an exceptional revenge killer. He is just a beast. I swept whole team with this guy . Draco metoer is used for its awesome power with stab. The stat drops dont really matter because he is a scarfed hit and run attacker and he is a wall breaker. So draco allows him to dish out much more damage. Dark pulse is used for its terrific type coverage and stab. Focus blast is to take care of steel types, rock types and ice types. Fire blast is used to take out ice types, grass types, and bug types. Its coverage is kind of redundant with focus blast, however I needed it for laura and shelly so I had another fire type attacker at my disposal. Conkeldurr: My Wallbreaker/Revenge Killer/Sometimes Bulky Sweeper/ABSOLUTE BEAST. Conkelderp has probably been the MVP on my team so far. He just dishes out unbelievable ammounts of damage and can act as a pretty effective bulky sweeper. He is the best revenge killer on my team, seeing as how he is my only member with priority and a strong one at that. I run the guts flame orb set as opposed to the bulk up set because conkeldurr can do immediate high damage as opposed to bulk up durr who typically runs no attack evs and needs to set up before he can go beastmode. Conkeldurr is the pokemon that i usually turn to if theres something that i cant deal super effective damage to that I need to take out and I can use him to spounge status moves such as will o wip and toxic. Drain punch is used for great power and recovery to help heal off burn damage and increase conkeldurr's overall surviveabillity. Mach punch is for the strong priority and ability to revenge kill. Stone edge is used to take out flying types as it is the only move on my team (bar ice beam and hp ice) that can hit flying types for super effective damage. It is also the only move on my team that can hit gyarados for super effective damage. Payback is used to DESTROY ghost types who are stupid enough to try to stand up to conkeldurr. Ferrothorn: My Physical Wall/Leech Seed Staller/Occasional Late game sweeper. Ferrothorn is so important to my team in terms of type coverage and spounging attacks. It is the only pokemon on my team who can kill water types more reliably than energy ball and grass knot. It walls the fuck out of so many powerful sweepers. It is a freaking lifesaver. I run a set that has probably been thought of before but i thought of it all by myself. It is a more offensive ferrothorn set than the typical wall as i do run some attack evs. The reason i took a more offensive approach is so i can not just tank hits from powerful sweepers but kill them in the process. Typically what i do is come in to somthing that i can wall, set up a leech seed, and then use curse as many times as I safely can. Then I can proceed to easily deal with the opposing pokemon and usually get a nice little mini sweep out of it. After all threats have been taken out I can just bring in ferrothorn and act as a late-game sweeper to pull of the win. Gyroball is used for its stab and raw power. Ferrothorn is one of the slowest pokemon there is and its a steel type. This makes gyro ball very powerful. Curse will increase my attack and lower my speed, both of witch power up gyroball. I usually do around 80% damage with an unboosted, unresisted gyroball and OHKO ALOT of pokes. Leech seed is to allow me to stall and recover hp while setting up. Power whip is for powerful stab and coverage. And finally curse is used to set up. Well, this is my team guys. Please leave advice and CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. I am very appreciative if you read through this whole thing as I know it is long, but I wanted to create the best RMT I could . Keep in mind that this is a league team so remember not to suggest legendary pokes and other stuff banned from league play. Your guys' feedback would be much appreciated! Thank You !!!!!! Edited June 22, 2012 by chasedawg98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyouka Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 dat fighting/ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasedawg98 Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Added threat list which i forgot to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted June 30, 2012 Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2012 Well, the first thing I see is the massive fighting weakness. Two ghosts definitely help, but something like Scrafty or Keldeo could still over run you. Your source Golurk as your scrafty counter, but I'm not sure that a Golurk could take a Crunch or Payback from a Scrafty that's already set up, and if it is Bulked up, Dynamic Punch definitely won't be OHKO'ing any time soon. So that would leave Conkledurr.. Keldeo... would hurt, I expect. Best bet for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I can see Focus Sash Alakazam running through this hard, and probably a 6-0 sweep. The common Alakazam has Focus Blast, Phychic, Shadow Ball, and HP Fire. Your team is made of: Empoleon, Golurk, Conkeldurr, Chandelure, Hydreigon, and Ferrothorn. And all of these pokemon Alakazam can 1hko. Mixed Infernape could hurt this team, but Chandelure and Conkell could probably stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasedawg98 Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Ya I do have a pretty prevelant fighting weakness now that you said it. However Golurk can usually get some pretty good hax with dynamicpunch. And Hydreigon can OHKO any fighting type with draco meteor. As for alakazam, I have stealth rocks so I'm not too worried about sashes. However, if for some reason I can't get up rocks, I have 3 pokemon who can easily knock alakazam down to his sash and conkeldurr can finish him off with a mach punch. And chandelure and hydreigon can finish him off. I'm really not worried about mixape, because golurk stops it better than anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 But Mixape has HP Ice and Grass Knot. Oh and another sweeper suspect, Keldeo. Standard Keldeo has Surf, Secret Sword, HP Ice, and a filler, mostly Calm Mind or Aqua Jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasedawg98 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 Ya keldeo can give me some big problems. Thankfully it most likely won't be used in the league as amaria will probably opt for kyogre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Why would she? I hope she's smart enough to see that Kyogre can only hit 2 of your pokemon hard and use Keldeo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraRPetO Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Amaria won't go easy on you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 hmm not a bad league team! as the people have already mentioned above you have a big weakness to water/fighting type Pokemon also you team needs a tad bit more Pokemon with moves that hit more than one target to help in doubles and triples here are a few of my humble suggestions Conculdurr ( i know i butchered its name) stone edge ---------> Ice punch ice punch has better coverage than stone edge and is also more accurate. Also in general you team doesn't have many attacks that would hit multiple opponents so you might have trouble in doubles or triples Also as mentioned above water/fighting types seem to make huge dents in your team but i think if you play your cards right they should not be a problem( i.e Keldeo can be killed after an energy ball and a mach puch) and the gurlock has to go >;[ idk what poke to replace though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraRPetO Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 hmm not a bad league team! as the people have already mentioned above you have a big weakness to water/fighting type Pokemon also you team needs a tad bit more Pokemon with moves that hit more than one target to help in doubles and triples here are a few of my humble suggestions Conculdurr ( i know i butchered its name) stone edge ---------> Ice punch ice punch has better coverage than stone edge and is also more accurate. Also in general you team doesn't have many attacks that would hit multiple opponents so you might have trouble in doubles or triples Also as mentioned above water/fighting types seem to make huge dents in your team but i think if you play your cards right they should not be a problem( i.e Keldeo can be killed after an energy ball and a mach puch) and the gurlock has to go >;[ idk what poke to replace though How about ThunderPunch instead of Ice Punch? He could use one electric type move, and he already has a few ice type moves Would OHKO Water/Fighting with Sheer Force, unless Poliwrath has gained a few Bulk Ups, maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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