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So I played a little bit and looked through some files. I double checked the Archive one Route 6, and there were two books:

”The Core: Project Interceptor” and “Interceptor’s Limits”.

 

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The Core book talks about how the Interceptor came to be, and what they were meant to do, before going on to talk about The Core. The Core is apparently the Garufa pillars meant to emerge when “some one not of this world” is detected. It ends with “This will -. The rest of the text appears to be missing”.

 

The Interceptor’s Limits talks about how the Interceptor cannot leave the planet or stray from the Core. They won’t be fit for the “Eclysia Project”. The Interceptor also will damage the Core in death, and cannot fail too many times.

 

Just to put that out there.

 

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9 hours ago, HUEnd said:

Well yeah, those are kinda obvious, but I can't find any other conections with the remaining Kingdoms...So, there are seven of them, ruled by (with their respective "deity"/guardian, as explained in the ending of the Kingdom of Goomidra questline):

Griselda (Giratina);

Tiempa (Dialga);

Spacea (Palkia);

Kasumi (Reshiram...? Can't remember right now);

Nymiera? (Zekrom? If I recall, she's the one that states "I had this power and now I don't have it anymore" or something across this line);

Isiah (Arceus, I guess?);

Unknown? Maybe the 'inner workings' lady that I can't remember her name or Anju? Or could this one be Lord Xanadin himself?

There’s a book in the Odd Tower north of Goldenleaf that says the names of the other kingdoms.

 

Ghovora, ruled by Griseda

Time, ruled by Tiempa

Space, ruled by Spacea

Yvern, ruled by unknown

Kasura, ruled by Kasumi

Zygara, ruled by Isiah

And then one that starts with X, also ruled by unknown.

 

Based on names and rulers, we have the Creation Trio and the Kalos trio represented. This leaves Kasura to (probably) represent Arceus. Some of the characters present are the original rulers, and others could be descendants of them. 

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7 hours ago, nhehvnukl said:

They are practicaly confirmed to be Palkia and Dialga.

It makes me feel better that I’m not the only one to see the connections between the creation trio and Spacea/Tiempa/Griselda. 

If they’re related to actual Pokemon, I wonder if there are any other characters that could be like this. Could the Puppet Master be Cresselia or Darkrai? What about Crescent? 

7 hours ago, nhehvnukl said:

I remember that one of the kimono girls said something about Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf turning themselfs to stone so that the red chain couldnt be created or something like that (No, the statues we see of them arent actually them, they're just shrines). I wonder why that is?

What if those shrines ARE the Pokémon though? We only see one of each, and if they did turn themselves to stone, wouldn’t it make sense to try to be overlooked rather than hunted out for? Maybe during the ancient war Nymeria mentions someone tried to create a red chain and so the trio hid to prevent that.

 

We do know that Pokemon humans are possible, Zeta is a Solosis after all. If there are Pokehumans, my theories as to who they are (besides Spacea/Tiempa) are:

Crescent - Darkrai/Cresselia

Puppet Master - Cresselia/Darkrai

Cosmia/Comet - Eon Duo

Melia - Arceus (possibly reduced in power)

Interceptor - Garufa experiment with Zygarde

 

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Oh yeah, Cosmia and Comet. I forgot about them. I do hope that they make a return; those two are mysterious, but they only appeared for one scene.

What do you guys think about Spacea, Tiempa, and Griselda? Griselda does seem to be the Giratina that we found under Wispy Tower, but do you guys think that there's some relation between Spacea and Palika or Tiempa and Dialga? Because if so, that could lead to some theories about other characters.

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Ooooh, two Madame X's! I like that theory.

 

The GDB does seem more important than meets the eye to everyone, Bladestar, Team Xen, and the Interceptor's merry band of heroes. We know that the GDB led to Melia, Erin, Alice, and Allen all gathering at the Shrine of Rejuvenation. We also know that they can somehow form the Archetype which somehow relates to Nymeria/Indriad and holds immense power. I feel like the ball was "fated" to reveal some sort of power that they share and begin to fit the pieces of Melia, the Archetype, Team Xen, Erin, the Garufa, and Anathea together.

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3 hours ago, Mindlack said:

Finally, someone did some digging and found that Risa Raider's Jigglypuff had the same stats and ability as a Naganadel... Risa Raider actually existed, but went seriously ill when she was 12, got "miraculously" cured by the shady and Xen-affiliated Dr. Isha, got seen with Team Xen (ostensibly to fight them, while attending a stupidly demanding university and being a full-time actress). Am I the only one thinking this is too much? That a more reasonable explanation is that Isha, out of love for his reputation and success rate, let Freya "imperson" the actually-deceased Risa Raider?

I have to agree with that. I did a bit of moveset searching, and Nagandel was the closest match to Tuffpuff that I could find. I would have to agree with the theory that Risa is dead and replaced by Freya.

 

Back to Indriad and Madame X for a bit. Yveltal seems to be Madame X's signature pokemon, and in a Team Xen lab under the secret shore there is a model of Yveltal's cocoon with a journal saying that it's how he sees. Now, to me, Indriad seems to be a very dark, deathlike figure, and I wouldn't consider it out of the picture for him to have used Yveltal to spy on outside the world. Then there's the fact that Madame X has captured Yveltal, maybe to control it or keep an eye on it? Overall, I have to think that Madame X isn't the pure evil she's made out to be, and actually has an anti-Indriad agenda. And then there's the prologue where Madame X walks in to warn Maria about her father, Indriad's, experiments downstairs and her mother's murder. It could be that Madame X is secretly good, but is under threat of Yveltal/Indriad to stay in line.

 

Then Nastasia. I agree with most of what you said, but I would like to add that perhaps Nastasia, who we know to have survived the Calamity, knows something about Madame X that we don't and wants to find a way to defeat Yveltal?

Just kinda spitballing ideas.

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Yeah, the Crescent thing was mostly off memory, I looked back 15 minutes later, and they are way off. Anyway, I do agree that both Crescent and the Puppet Master are wild cards, but I still think that the Puppet Master is more towards the benevolent type of character. 

 

By the Cera/Cella thing, it's a bit hard to explain, but sort of like how in past Aevium, Anju and the Eldest were friends and the Eldest was almost Anju's servant. Anju was captured by Indriad and somehow Angie popped up, complete with her servant Cera. Just based off of names and dynamic, I guessed that Cera was sort of an Indriad-ified version of Cella. Sorry if this theory seems out there.

 

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Well, the GDB did lead to Amanda's reveal/fight along with the big sibling reveal. That also led to whole Hiroshi City/Zone Zero adventure which revealed a lot, including Eclysia Pyramid being a secret Garufa spaceship and how the Interceptor can't leave the planet. Zone Zero also has that one house where the player has had some past memories which I hope is important. I'd say the the Puppet Master likely wants to help us in it's own strange way.

 

On Crescent, I do wonder if she is corrupted Nymeria. The skin tone/hair color do match and based on Cella/Cera and Anju/Angie it kinda? makes sense.

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So we left v12 with Alexandra wanting everyone to meat in Eclysia, and Melia, Erin, Alice, and Allen are all siblings - most likely Anathea and Indriad's children.

I hope that before the Puppet Master stuff, we at least get to see something with Anathea and the Soul Stone item.

 

Also, any theories on Nancy's Black Box? Based on Nastasia, it seems pretty important, but nothing really seems to be going on with it.

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After finishing v12, I realized that I'm missing 3 ZCells (I was following the walkthrough to find them).

I know I'm missing the cell by the help center, it was glitched before I left for GDC, and probably one other in old Gearen. I'm not sure about the last one, but would like to know if I could somehow get the ones that I missed.

Save file is attached if needed.

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