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  1. Hey guys! I know I keep asking for help, but this one's got me particularly stumped. 

     

    Noel's Clefable -- heck, even his Cinccino -- are quite frustrating.

     

    TEAM: 

     

    Hgd - "Higgledy" - Musharna - Synchronize - TwistedSpoon - Future Sight - Calm Mind - Psychic - Charge Beam

    Sligma - "Sligma" - Magcargo - Magma Armor - Quick Claw - Flamethrower - Infestation / Nature Power - Ancient Power - Clear Smog

    LesbianHEART - "Les" - Meowstic-M - Keen Eye - Metronome - Psychic - Charge Beam - Disarming Voice - Fake Out

    Linus - "Linus" - Liepard - Unburden - Lax Incense - Snatch - Sucker Punch - Play Rough - Shadow Claw

    Ghily - "Gilly" - Arcanine - Justified - Expert Belt - Close Combat - ExtremeSpeed - Flamethrower - Retaliate

    LAST SLOT TO BE DETERMINED?? I've been toying with the idea of Charizard, Fire/Flying Oricorio, 

     

    The Pokemon I am most likely to train / have trained are in my signature. Not listed, however, is a Fire/Flying Oricorio that could prove useful if anyone has any tips? 

     

    Usually, I take out Porygon-Z with Higgledy (Musharna). Unless the RNG decides to be annoying and add a status along with Tri-Attack, Higgledy manages to to take Porygon-Z out with two (or, rarely, three) uses of Psychic (boosted by the TwistedSpoon). 

     

    Next up is usually Swellow. At this point, Higgledy is usually too worn-down to survive anything from Swellow long enough to use Charge Beam (which, even then, has a chance of missing), so I switch into Sligma (Magcargo). Swellow's Flame Orb lets it use a powerful Facade, which still deals a surprisingly large amount of damage even to a Fire/Rock type like Magcargo. I take it out with Ancient Power, which leads to Noel sending out either Bewear or Girafarig. 

     

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    If Bewear: 

     

    Easy-peasy. I send in Les (Meowstic-M) for a Fake Out + Psychic combo. 

     

    If Girafarig: 

     

    I send in Linus (Liepard) for Sucker Punch, although I am considering changing this to some other Dark-type move if I can. It usually works, albeit at the cost of a chunk of HP due to Thunderbolt as well as a virtually unavoidable paralysis when Girafarig has a chance to use Thunder Wave. 

     

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    So, at this point, the team is still somewhat strong. However, my team has typings that can be taken out by most of Cinccino's attacks. And in comes Cinccino. I usually end up wearing it down until I'm left with Les, Gilly, and an extremely weakened (and possibly statused) Higgledy. 

     

    Clefable comes next, and it is not fun. Les uses Fake Out + Psychic (STAB + Metronome + Psychic's simple power??). I once got a crit and almost took it out with Gilly, but, keeping in mind Clefable's possession of Hidden Power Ground and Noel's possession of three Hyper Potions, you can probably guess how that turns out. 

     

    Higgledy is last to go, and there's not much that can be done at that point. 

    1. Candy

      Candy

      I think you'd get more feedback if you posted this on Team Showcase, but for starters (and from a very novice point of view), musharna and meowstic are both pure psychic types and therefore redundant. I'd keep male meowstic and change his ability to prankster so he can set up light screen / reflect faster than the opponents.

      I'd get a fighting type to your team to deal with Noel. Maybe you can get the stufful (if you had stufful instead of snubbul) from the girl in Peridot Ward, or any from the list preferably not of a secondary typing that you have in your team. I'll think of more stuff to recommend but I'm not real good at this hehe 😅

    2. Gentleman Jaggi

      Gentleman Jaggi

      First of your signature doesn't show up in status Updates so it's a bit of hassle to go check for one of your posts just to know what you can work with.

       

      Anyhow, your Magcargo doesn't have Shell Smash. It really wants Shell Smash, that's the main thing making it viable. I'd recommend Weak armor as Ability too, since that allows it to get an additional boost off a physical hit while setting up. With a Shell Smash boost under its belt Flamethrower should do tns of damage on Noel's field. As long as it's not raining, at least.
      Male Meowstic isn't a very good attacker, so turn it into a Prankster Support as soon as you can.

       

      About Minccino, I'm assuming it's faster than a lot of your Pokémon? If you don't have anything that can take a hit and slow it down (Rock tomb, Bulldoe, paralysis) I'd recommend tanking its Attack stat. Meowstic's Charme and Reflect work for that. I also recommend changing Arcanine's ability to Intimidate.

       

      Clefable is a Special-focused tank, so you're best of using physical attackers against it. If you have anything with toxic or toxic Spikes you could also try stalling it out.

       

      As for your last slot

      While Charizard is a very solid Pokémon you already have two Fire Pokémon in your team and I remember you also had a Rapidash some time back, so training yet another Fire type wouldn't yield all that much. Oricorio could be interesting with its various forms allowing it to be rather versatile, although its stats are just a little lower than I'd want them to be in the long run.

      Some solid Pokémon that recently became available for you are Zubat, Yanma, Skrelp, Trapinch, Archen or Sandile. There's more obviously, but these are all Pokémon I'd definitely vouch for. Flygon and Archeops in particular have great movepools for upcoming parts of the game.

       

      Finally, did you pick up the House Key in the Underground Railnet? It unlocks the Move Reminder in Onyx Ward which unlocks a lot of flexibility in your movesets and lets your Pokémon relearn a bunch of Lv.1 moves they'd otherwise only learn way later. You can get more Heart Scales fishing for Luvdisc right by Charlotte's family's house or by mining.

    3. firey

      firey

      Yes, I found the House Key, although I did not know about the Luvdisc thing. I fished out some Heart Scales and changed up my movesets, and I'm also Pickup-farming using the things I fish up that aren't Luvdiscs. 

       

      Meso (Garbodor) has Toxic Spikes, but he does need some training. Will update once I'm done training everyone up. 

       

      Here's my team, I haven't finished training yet though: 

       

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