CrimsonDragon21

So we have someone else who will cancel the following Night Action again?

Okay jeah sorry for my choosing of words. And jeah i was just listing the persons who joined the BW on NickCrash. I personally don't think your votes had any ill intent. It was more of a pressure vote to bring NickCrash to claim. Okay mb. I thought the Troublemaker role works differently. I thought the role had to activate in on night, so the double lynch could happen the next dayphase. But i guess i was completely wrong. My Bad. Does that mean the double Lynch is already intact? If so, i will nominate someone else for Eviction the next dayphase then.

How does it not matter who we lynch first? Possible Serial Killer nets to probably 2 Deaths this nightphase (Factional Kill and Serial Killer Kill). I mean the possibility that NickCrash is an hostile TP or even Mafia still exists, but his roleclaim till now is uncontested. Also we have inactives, who might have that exact role, Nick claimed. Nonetheless imo it's better to get rid of a possible Serial Killer, then what might be an harmless TP. Onto the previous topic about the 5 Evicted: NickCrash: Confirmed Third Party (or not really confirmed, but third party from his claim). His roleclaim feels genuine and he tries to make an effort to stay alive. He could be a desperate Mafia who tries to save himself, but we don't know that yet. At least from his claim he seems harmless. I will nominate NickCrash for eviction for the next day, so we can double lynch. Castiel: Confirmed Mafia through Bazaro. His "Win-Con" seems weird and i still don't really trust his roleclaim. Possibility of being a Serial Killer. Alaris: He contributes and brings out usefull information on the table. Also while he is still a bit of a mystery, i get towny vibes from him. I suspected him a bit from the previous dayphase, cause he stayed on a low profile (beneficial to Mafia). BokChoi: Didn't contribute much till now. He is a fake Veggie. He could actually be any of the 3 factions. Can't get an opinion now (but he is part of the Asian Alliance, which consist of 5 Mafia Members) Martin: Has been inactive and didn't contribute at all. He could be Town, Mafia or Third-Party. He will probably get Modkilled by the phasechange, so that will give us more information. Lykos: I mean he isn't evicted, but imo there is nothing wrong with Lykos behaviour. He just shades the people who joined the NickCrash BW and tells us why he votes Castiel (with a rather weak argument). So if we look back at what Lykos said: Yahen evicted Nick Crash first. Yahy was the 2nd who joined the BW (but they they had the same opinion on Nick, so joining for them would be fine) After that: Newt, Caimie, Drakyle, Roswell, Bok, Astra and Drago joined the BW in this order. So what Lykos said, it could have been convenient for Mafia to join this BW.

Care to elaborate on that? He only claimed 2 roles to you. And now claimed to be the Loudmouth later (he still could be a serial killer, if he was lying). Why are you so sure about him being harmless? Given the situation he was in, claiming Loudmouth is convenient. Cas was going on about his Win-Con. That's why i suspect him to have a third party role besides the 2 he listed (not counting Loudmouth). Okay after i read some of the posts. We have decided to look at the other 3 people and evict Castiel if the others seemed more townish? Probably most of it happened behind the scenes in private chats. Do i still nominate NickCrash for the following DayPhase or do i have free reign?

Yes i have the ability to check Nick Crash. Unfortunately that Ability only works on odd-nights (like the cop-abilities). And cause the next night is an even night, i can only use my Doctor ability. If Nick Crash survives till the next odd-night, i would glady check him, to see if he is lying or telling the truth. As for Castiel. His Win-Con is rather weird to have and imo he is lying about his tertiary role. Cause you normally wouldn't have an additional win-con, if you don't have a third party role as one of your 3 roles. Imo Nick's roleclaim is genuine and i rather trust him over Castiel. Maybe it's just Nick Crash speech, that made me choose him over Castiel. But we are lynching either a maf-member (possibly Serial Killer) or a third party (harmless) this dayphase. After getting to hear both sides, my vote goes to Castiel. [Evict] Castiel

Mhhh thats a weird Win-Condition lmao. You could have been a Serial-Killer who wants to see some blood before dying. But who knows. As it stands Nick is probably gonna get evicted this night anyways. I still want to hear what Nick really is before i place my final vote. (it probably won't change much on the outcome anyways)

Pls the Forums didn't notify me about a new post, while i was writing mine Not my fault that my post came out the wrong way

Mhhh why did you say that you want to survive and complete your win-con then Those things don't allign imo. Care to tell us what your current Win-Condition is?

That's mean I actually don't like dying. On the topic between the Nick/Cas thing. I actually don't really know what roles Nick could have or what he roleclaimed. Maybe cause i am just dumb Also we only got to know 2 roles from Cas. So we actually don't know how hostile he is exactly, amirite? So besides Toy-Gunsmith and Thief, his possible roles could be: Also cause he said he wants to stay alive and fulfill his wincon, he could actually be one of the 2 third party roles. @Bazaro You know more on that matter. Care to elaborate. Right now i don't know who is more of a treat to town. Cause i actually have no clue about Nick and there is still some mystery about Cas. So i am waiting for either of them to explain. @NickCrash @Black Swordsman On the bright side we pinned down 2 Non-Town, which is a good thing for us. Meaning i will nominate the surviving one of the 2 for the next dayphase.

I mean Newt and myself didn't caught much attention either and somehow got targeted/bandwagoned like hell. The BW started on Newt and then went over to myself. And we had players suspecting all evicted players beside you. You on the other hand were totally left alone. There was not a single random vote onto you, which made Bean/myself a bit suspicious about you in general, cause we know nothing about you. You didn't had to do much, cause maybe your mafia partners where covering for you making those huge BW. But who knows. Also the main logic why we voted you, was because we got influenced by Bean.

So the Evicted Persons are Alaris, Castiel, Martin, NickCrash and Bok Choi! We evicted Alaris (or at least some in the Asian Alliance did), cause he got almost ignored completely in the last dayphase. He could keep a low profile, while the others got pressured hard. Maybe this dayphase will change it. I think Castiel got evicted mostly, cause he just blindly joined a BW and didn't give a good reason. He also said something about having a different win con. Martin got evicted cause of inactivity Nick Crash got evicted through @Yahy Do you want to elaborate on that for us? or anyone in your core group. I also don't know why Bok Choi got evicted, so the ones who voted him could elaborate on that. If all 5 of them are town, the best decision for us is to lynch Martin. So we reduce the number of lost townies. Cause if he doesn't reach Post requirements + votes, he probably get modkilled. So to preserve loosing 2 townies, we could lynch Martin. I don't have a read on the evicted players or if they are maf/third party. So i am waiting for more information from you guys.

Oh oops. I thought at that time it was almost public knowledge. My bad. That's how it is stated in the Opening Post, meaning the factional kill is conceiled if you perform a 2nd Night action with it.

I should have posted that with my statement above

No Digital Amber is Candy. Yahen already confirmed that he knows who the Candy is (probably someone in his core group) And Candy visits 2 people for the side effect. That's at least the logical route i think would be.

I am honored to be your next Head of Household. I will definetly not fail you. We already know who "The Pet" is

But Vegetables can [Select] Bok Choi

The same goes for me. I prioritize my life over the ones from something you claim to be beneficial to town. Who knows, maybe you are both mafia. And Nicki has a powerful role which can be used on odd nights? I don't see why from all people, i have to be the victim. My Core Group will [Evict] Nicki

And as i wrote this, i got a message that i got fed a rotten pizza, reducing my vote count to 0. Pls this is all staged up. You have to believe me.

Hey guys. I didn't shoot Lia. I didn't receive any guns this night phase and i also didn't start with a gun. I know it's hard to believe my words just now. But you have to believe me, that i am actually framed here. As you can see, the votes from people who didn't join any alliances, somehow shifted onto Nano and Nicki, which made it very possible for me to survive. Why would i be so desperate to shoot exactly at this moment? If i had a chance of surviving. Why would i want to make myself even more suspicious and even attract the votes from people outside of those alliances? How i see it, is that Mafia used their Illusionist to kill Lia (a core between those intertwined alliances) and throw more suspicion onto me, to get rid of me once and for all. It's killing two birds with one stone, after the votes from individuals shifted to Nicki and Nano. I am framed here. So it's either you believe in my word or not.

This silence after all votes got placed on me is the worst. I really don't like this. And i actually don't want to die. [Evict] Nicki

Jeah but you didn't invite me to the showmance, so you could connect everything together and bandwagon onto the last remaining who was out of the loop. There are 5 evicted this dayphase. Alaris, Nano (you), Nicki, Newt and myself Alaris, Nano and Newt are in Lia's alliance, which is connected with the showmance between Yahen. And Nicki is in Yahens Alliance. All Evicted together leaving me the prime target to lynch for the day. Coincidence or planned? What's even worse they went for Newt first, but then decided to recruit him and go for me. Even a blind monkey would see something fishy in those actions. That's not a good idea, cause of the 8 slices of Pizza some of us got, which will break the tie. And it will favor the people who want me lynched more. But there is no way for me to talk myself out of this lynch

Hey guys. It sounds desperate coming now, but could you pls let me live? I really don't want to die that early again. The reason of voting me sounds kinda stupid in general. Newt wasn't incoporated in any alliances too, but then got invited to Lia's and the votes instantly turned onto me. It's way to sketchy and i don't like that. Why did noone tried to make an alliance or showmance with me? For me it seems staged up. I am Caimie. My first role is Doctor (unknown sanity) I can only protect on even nights. I protected Digital Amber on N0. 2nd role is Actress: I can use that on odd nights. My third role is the Enchantress. Why are all lynches at me the ones where i am bound to die anyways, regardless how hard i try Stop ganging up on me

Just cause i made an alliance outside of intertwined core groups and showmances? Why can't you let me play a game for once normally

Care to at least elaborate on this sketchy Bandwagon?

Newt just came out of his way to defend himself, while forsaken his night action. He might be lying about his roles, but it feels genuine. At least i don't get any mafia vibes from him. I am also not sure how you are so sure about your teammates to be Town. There are so many roles, that lying about them is a possibility. I have to agree, that i get towny vibes from Nano, cause of what he shared in the private pizza chat. And just as i was about to write more i get evicted by like 10 people out of nowhere? What is this?