The Swordsman

Just want say this before this is locked. Thank you Reborn team for this great game and to other members that helped me out with the game through the years, be it supplying a guide to a tricky puzzle or getting a certain pokemon. Its been a fun ride!

Didn't stop him from trying to kill you and all of this is almost entirely from a out of universe perspective with no regard at all to the setting and it's history. The whole thing of you're only alive because main character is entirely divorced from the context of the story, or do you seriously think the good characters of Reborn would suddenly not try to intervene when they did before just because the person about to killed in front of them isn't "special." Heck realistically a person's ability to train pokemon is due solely to their ability and compassion for their pets, not some special main character status and you're forgetting said weapons are not tools but living creatures. To be blunt you killing grunts right and left does nothing to improve your chances of survival or taking them down, by doing so all you've changed is the reluctant grunts are now fully motivated as they try to avenge their friends, just another cog in this vicious cycle. By this logic you shouldn't even try the non lethal solution at all because you're not special, well guess what? Cops don't have that special main character status in real life and the conditions they are called into are not always ideal but they are expected to disarm the criminal, with lethal intent being a last resort and is heavily scrutinized. Not even trying under that reasoning is not logical, its moral cowardice and in that case seriously why are you even playing at being a vigilante in this scenario? If the risks of your own death are indeed far too big for you and you already survived one attack, why bother personally chasing Meteor down to their base? This reasoning also isn't why Titania kills the grunts, heck she is fully honest about how they weren't really a threat to her.

Ghestisis actively tried to kill the player and is one of the darkest canon villains, yet the player did not kill him in return. Pokemon trainers hold at max 6 pokemon, powerful creatures capable of mass destruction that have made personal weapons obsolete, it is literally child's play in the Pokemon universe to disarm your opponent and force them to surrender. Lethal force was never a logical or necessary option.

Its not just the plot but the very setting itself thats different. As I have stated elsewhere, unlike Rejuvenation which is more a melting pot of the games, anime (which is wildly different from the games) and its own fully unique lore, Reborn so far has held itself true the games' canon and has tried to keep its additions with it in mind. While a version of the Reborn region and its characters can exist in Rejuvenation, it can't be the original due to this.

I was going to offer to breed a ratls and then give it to you but I forgot Rej doesn't have trading yet. If it helps any I did not get my Gallade from a egg but from the Hidden Lab.

Personally I never saw that as a issue as I am invested in the game's story and RPGs where this is common are my favorite genre. Its just that the official Pokemon games don't really focus on the characterization and story for the most part unlike most RPGs. (Gen 5 and 7 being the exceptions and get similar complaints but are my favorites out of them) Its not that it sucks because of long cutscenes (which a point of preference than anything else, while you seem to dislike them, I like them) its that its more of a traditional RPG.

Might be a reference to Lance's dragonite, the Rocket grunt didn't die there either.

El's diary is the evidence for Solaris' parents dieing and him not wanting the job originally.

Yes, you have Sirus' dialogue, Taka's dialogue, and El's diary from the top of my head.

Which happened after Lin joined, you have to remember that originally for the longest time she was just the unofficial leader, her actually getting the position is fairly recent. Solaris' fall, like with most well written villains, was a slow fade. Originally there was no Team Meteor, it was his family protecting the keys, a job Solaris did not take seriously and wanted out of. Only when his parents were brutally murdered for the keys does he fully commit to the job, which leads to Team Meteor being created, their peaceful protests not working at all and to Lin and their new goals.

Ah I did not know that, as since I don't normally pursue pokemon I don't intend to use the last time I saw Chandelure's dex entry was in the original White which was, "Being consumed in Chandelure's flame burns up the spirit, leaving the body behind. " Which implies the soul's destruction and made me dislike the pokemon even more. (As a litwick was feeding off its own trainer) Thanks for the info!

From what I am recall (forgive its been awhile) Team Meteor's activities were not evil at all and more civil, just trying to get people leave the area in order to protect Arceus. Once Lin came along that changed for the worse as her methods were seen as necessary since they got actual results and then it was further warped from protecting Arceus to using it to make a "better" world. However, even that goal is a lie, in reality Lin is no different from Cyrus. Sirus on the other hand murdered some people before he joined Team Meteor for the very keys Solaris was supposed to protect, became Lin's right hand man and erased Eclipse from existence. While I do find Sirus to be more evil as Lin hasn't erased someone from existence yet, there is no denying she is the one most responsible for everything wrong that goes on in the game, because as Sirus notes Solaris, having lost his Team to a usurper, is the only one still on Team Meteor who cares about the old world. (I presume El does too but he isn't technically a member)

Nice! We're almost to the finish line now.

People are not black and white, they are not born fundamentally good nor evil. Sure she did go along with Lin despite acknowledging she inverted the entire team's purpose and turned them into murders instead of protectors out of a warped desire to save her father and not get killed off. However, before her end she had started to acknowledge what she did and atone. She was not beyond redemption. Regardless, no one deserves to be destroyed so completely they cease to exist.

Same, making her deader than dead is why despise Sirius more than Lin. (though Lin still has my ire) It'd take a utter miracle to bring her back as there is nothing left for Arceus or Jirachi to resurrect. (That may not matter for Arceus hopefully being Pokemon's version of God and all) Maybe Dialga or Celebi can do something but that would change the timeline.

Proceeds to go full Dimitri vs Randolph from FE3H on her.

I expect instead of that it will you its ability to cheat Arceus into his team.

That would defeat the purpose of getting anyone to do the Zeckrom route though.

OK lets grant that wish. Without Taka's and his family someone would be able grab Arceus more easily for their own ends, (as their role used to be guardians, till Lin twisted the goal to be the complete opposite) Taka's interference wouldn't have happened so the player and other people would most likely be dead, Lin would still be around and still be able to form Team Meteor as we know them today some other way, as she doesn't really need the family, she just used them for their insight and connections, Sirius would rise to power earlier, the volcano would go off without a hitch and Blake would be successful in his schemes because no Cal, Eclipse wouldn't be there to stop PULSE Clawlitzer, Luna wouldn't exist and thus the void would be a permanent prison and Evelynn and Lumina wouldn't exist, which would be the only potential positive as there is a chance there would be no PULSE pokemon. (forcing Lin to rely on the megas or gigamaxing) I think that covers everything

If you choose the path of Ideals he never dies. For Taka you have to remember that said organization wasn't originally a group of terrorists it was twisted into that by Lin. Also Taka didn't just feel bad or whine about it, he acted as a mole where he actively helps the player many times. You forcing him to reveal himself isn't a change of heart, he was already working against them from the inside, its a betrayal of trust that gets him killed. Without Taka's interference more people would've been killed. Just because you don't think he should know how to sabotage the machine doesn't have the knowledge and afterward he was repentant and helps against Blake. Things aren't black and white.

That might be why the heroes win in the end then. Though I am surprised that Lin wouldn't think of it considering she has very similar goals to Cyrus.

I doubt there will be a PULSE Arceus, as Cyrus from DPP notes legendaires lose a lot of power by tech interference. If Arceus is captured I'm expecting a red chain variant.

That doesn't really address the problem though, while sure there are some people want to catch them all, the main reason people feel so strongly about the National Dex is that every pokemon is someone's favorite. Sad to say but the National Dex is the name for all pokemon being included, I would gladly take no pokedex entries as a compromise but thats not going to happen.

I was holding out hope they would fix this mistake in the DP remakes but it seems this horrible policy is continuing from now on. As part of my fun is playing with my favorite pokemon, I will no longer be buying their games for the most part and sticking to fan games. (with the only exception being main series games that have all my 6) Couple this with Lets GO! and the multiple other problems with SH, it seems GF doesn't care anymore.