BIGJRA Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Hey guys, I just started doing showdown OU battles and I was wondering if you guys wanted to help better my team a little bit. At A Glance ~ Teambuilding Process ~ This was the first time I really tried to make a semi-decent team, with an endgoal in mind and synergy, etc. I saw a Smog article on an alternative Mega Pidgeot set and I thought that it would be fun to try out. Realizing that I can pretty much rely on him as a sweep, I decided to supplement the ice weakness with a Heatran, to get rocks support. I added Latias just because I wanted to try out a Defog Latias with Healing Wish, and so far it seems to be pulling weight. I kinda love Ferrothorn so I stuck him on for Leech Seed/T Wave action, and then I got a Tentacruel to complete the fire-grass-water trio and then give me some rapid spin coverage, so I have BOTH a defogger and a spinner. I kinda just threw in a specs Gengar after that to fill coverage. The Team ~ @ Pidgeotite Ability: Keen Eye EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Hurricane - Work Up - Refresh - Roost As I stated above, the goal of Mega Pidgeot (aka Bird Jesus) is to swap in at opportune times, set up a work up, and then hurricane the crud out of everything else to win. I have refresh and roost because the easiest way to set up BJ is to do it on a wall of some sorts. The biggest weakness here is steel, electric and rock types; I can't one shot them with +2 Hurricanes so easily. BJ basically outspeeds everything that comes up against it, although priority moves are occasionally an issue. @ Choice Specs Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Dazzling Gleam - Sludge Wave - Shadow Ball - Trick I really only use Gengar as your typical coverage/specs trick set, which is particularly useful if I'm trying to clear the way of things that can resist BJ's hurricanes. I use it particularly to check dragons, other ghosts, and fairies that are bulky. Not much else to be said for this set. @ Life Orb Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Defog - Draco Meteor - Thunderbolt - Healing Wish Although Life Orb Latias is one of the sets you'd least expect, its slight bit of bulk over its older brother is especially useful in being able to dish out Thunderbolt spam or send in a couple of draco meteors. I prefer thunderbolt as it gives the team electric coverage and supplements DM well. I'll use defog mainly if the opponent is really persistent with early game rocks/spikes and I haven't set mine up yet. I haven't had to use Healing Wish in a battle yet but if I do it'll probably be a late game Ferrothorn revival or perhaps a rejuvenation of mega Pidgeot. @ Rocky Helmet Ability: Iron Barbs EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def Relaxed Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Thunder Wave - Gyro Ball - Leech Seed - Power Whip Ferrothorn does what he does. Late game, he sets up thunder waves and leech seeds but has the offensive capabilities to dish out damage. I don't feel the need to load 'Thorn with field hazards since Heatran can set up rocks, but I do use him to stall out opponents. He is useful in doing trio-switches with Tentacruel and Heatran. @ Air Balloon Ability: Flash Fire EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD Calm Nature - Lava Plume - Roar - Toxic - Stealth Rock Heatran kinda serves multiple purposes all jumbled into one. I use him as early game rocks if I can, I try to toxic stall certain pokemon that check it, and then I roar whenever I feel that a switch is coming (free rocks damage) or, because he can take a hit, to roar out a pokemon that managed to set up offensively/defensively. I run Lava Plume to attack bulky physical sweepers in the case of burn and I use it against Steel types that block BJ Hurricanes; specifically Magnezone, Metagross, and Skarmory. Heatran ends up being a reliable staller that can take a hit and burn his opponents. @ Black Sludge Ability: Liquid Ooze EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Sludge Wave - Rapid Spin - Scald - Ice Beam Tentacool has a very odd set from what I've seen (being all offensive) but it seems to work out in its favor. It can take hits but really just takes down Heatrans and Landorus'es with its typical moves, and then surprises opponents with Sludge Wave and it's chance to poison. Of course, I use it as a late game spinner if I need rocks gone for when Mega Pidgeot can come in and sweep. Oh and the chances of burn freeze and poison are all nice. The Import ~ Pidgeot @ Pidgeotite Ability: Keen Eye EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Hurricane - Work Up - Refresh - Roost Gengar @ Choice Specs Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Dazzling Gleam - Sludge Wave - Shadow Ball - Trick Latias (F) @ Life Orb Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Defog - Draco Meteor - Thunderbolt - Healing Wish Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet Ability: Iron Barbs EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def Relaxed Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Thunder Wave - Gyro Ball - Leech Seed - Power Whip Heatran @ Air Balloon Ability: Flash Fire EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD Calm Nature - Lava Plume - Roar - Toxic - Stealth Rock Tentacruel @ Black Sludge Ability: Liquid Ooze EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Sludge Wave - Rapid Spin - Scald - Ice Beam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Elliot Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Can we please cut the "bird Jesus" jokes short already? They were never funny to begin with. That aside, I don't like Ferrothorn's moves at all. Thunder Wave conflicts with Gyro Ball, I know you said you plan on having it do different things at different times but that usually isn't a good idea. Give it spikes over Power Whip and Protect over Thunder wave or, if you think you need Thunder Wave more than Spikes, then give it Protect over Gyro Ball. One offensive move is all Ferro needs, and since you lack lefties recovery Protect is needed to make Leech Seed reliable at all. The other Pokemon are ok... I can see some specific threats, some of which actually quite common, giving you grief to some extent, but I don't know what to suggest without altering the team significantly, so yeah, if it works for you, then it's fine. The Pidgeot set is not a bad idea actually, I would love to see some replays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 changes i suggest: heat wave > refresh on pidge lo > specs on gar focus blast > dazzling gleam substitute > trick lefties > helmet on ferro spikes > twave as much as i love tenta, consider changing it to starmie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 suggesting changes and not explaining why, classic jelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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