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Stop it. I am not Mafia. I am not affiliated with those pitiful scoundrels.
I have higher expectations.
And i am basically basing my suspicions on Arch, based on the Votes that ignited the whole Bandwagon, which lead to a lynch of either Newt or me.
As i already said, the most suspicious ones from that batch to me were Fali, Aldo and Arch (also Lia in some way).I swear i am not bullying the newcomersAnd so i started to vote for him.
It's funny that no other opinions of others are getting brought upon. And mostly just follow existing votes.
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There are to many role reveals for this day.
2nd Revealing your role doesn't mean anything. You could be still Mafia. You are only making yourself a target for the next factional kill from Mafia.
1 hour ago, Arch said:Alright I'll admit I didn't read much except the major events in the game up till now. But after rereading the game again (it was painful), I am still suspicious of you @CrimsonDragon21. Because first of all not only did he assumed that Aldo is vanilla when he himself never said that, but after Amine said that he had the same result as Aldo, Kiet quickly called out Amine for being a vanilla too, without thinking why would two vanillas (one of them didn't even claim) give the same information, when one already gave that who wasn't even a vanilla. Which leads me to think that him and Amine are both mafias and Kiet somehow misinterpreted what Aldo said and thought it was a good idea to claim vanilla since its confirmed townie and told Amine to claim. Though I might be tinfoiling too much, but Amine at first said that he had the same information as Aldo but later when asked to elaborate he said that he wanted to reveal the town NPCs that he got ninja'd by Aldo.
I dont see how that is the same news as Aldo?
As for Newt, I just want to know why or how are you guys are seeing him as confirmed townies, am I still missing something. Given that how he killed Nicky, when she was the one that gave him the gun and it should be obvious that there is no way a mafia would give a gun to a townie instead of their buddies. Also, I dont like the way Kiet has turned 180 degree and started to defend Newt, when they were going at each other just the previous day.
[Eliminate] Kiet
You guys are repeating everything what was said. First of all, you can't misinterpret what Aldo said. It was a clear statement.
After Amine stated his message:
On 11/4/2019 at 7:46 PM, Hanyū said:hi hello i thought i had some news but looks like Aldo already said what i had in mind~
I read to much around it and assumed that Aldo might have been the Vanilla Townie with Amine.
(and to defend myself, i am not the only one who thought about that Amine wanted to share the same information Aldo already brought)
It's just how Amine worded his message was super unclear and brought a lot of confusion and misinterpretation.But if you are using this as an basis to incriminate me, that is a kinda weak statement.
Newt isn't a confirmed townie, yet. But if you read him as scum, you can elaborate on your reads.
We already discussed and suggested, how Newt can confirm himself as a confirmed Townie. Maybe you missed that important part.
As for this statement "I dont like the way Kiet has turned 180 degree and started to defend Newt, when they were going at each other just the previous day."
It was Day1, so there was nothing to go off that. And i just roleplayed my Lawful Evil Paladin out and responded to Newts Vote against me.
And as you can see the votes were at a 1 : 1 tie at that point. Who would have known, that in over a few hours a lot of lynch votes amassed against our throats?It was bandwagons without a good reason. And you should know it better, cause you were one of the people who started to ignite the Bandwagons.
I still don't think you are Town, Arch.
So my vote will stay on you.14 hours ago, Nano4 said:Guys kiet is probably the scummiest out of everyone
Pls elaborate on your statement, that i am scummy?
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Also guys.
Pls reveal Paladin.
I am literally Vanilla Townie now after i had to use my ability so early, cause you were bandwagoning me or Newt for no reason. -
3 minutes ago, Eviora said:
What did Amine do to earn that pressure? I'm more concerned about you, frankly. You just shot someone who was obviously town. What about that was obvious? It's simple. If she were mafia, she would know whether or not you're mafia and there'd be no incentive for her to give you a gun unless you were both mafia. But if you were both mafia, you'd have known that, too and wouldn't have shot her.
I'd like to hear what you were thinking.
But Newt didn't knew that Nicki was the Artificer. And neither did any of us.
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31 minutes ago, CrimsonDragon21 said:
Well it's still better to have Newt take over the role, then 3 Vanilla NPC all going for it and all having lost their ability to promote.
And as you can see, it can prove Newts town status. Cause if we all tell that Newt should take the role and on the phase change post, no dead role was claimed by a Vanilla NPC, it would tell us that Newt is indeed town.
2nd Mafia did not kill me or Newt. Imo it sounded more as that they were vary of a Doctor. So i assume the Doctor type role (Cleric) isn't part of the Mafia.I meant if at the phase change post, the Vigilante Role wasn't claimed by a Vanilla NPC, we can assume, that Newt is indeed Mafia.
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6 minutes ago, Falirion said:
You were trying to define who has which town role, when it was relevant or beneficial to town? i could be misreading it but you have to see how that can be put into a bad light, also i would still like you to in you own words explain your ability, also why you redirected to specifically bean.
5 minutes ago, Aldo said:Why are you bullying us newbies?But Kieto, saying publicly who is what role helps the mafia know too! Figures, you just said Newt will take the Vigilante role. Guess who mafia might target tonight in the case?
And also, I am not a Vanilla NPC. You'd know because Newt did not get the same information I did, and Amine's... a special case I don't know about.
(Also to say I only got to tell the numbers from the beginning of the game. It seems I can't know the numbers from each phase so I won't be able to tell if there's a cult or not.)
Townhunting is like, instead of hunting for mafia, you're hunting for town's power roles. And we don't get mafia by hunting for town, do we?
Guys pls read what was written before, smh.
It was based on a false interpretation. I misinterpret Amines message as wanting to tell us the same mafia numbers and third party numbers as Aldo did. (and i wasn't the only one who did misinterpret that)
Cause if you see what i have written, you would have maybe see my thoughtprocess. And maybe came to the same conclusion. And i just openly stated what i was thinking.
And cause of that misinterpretation, everything i said was wrong anyways to begin with.And that i told Newt to take the Vigilante role was just a suggestion, so that Vanilla NPCs who aren't revealed yet, can organise better.
Also to confirm if he is indeed a Vanilla NPC.
As for why i decided to execute Bean?
I didn't had the time to read all the posts that were written over the night, so i had noone exspecially in mind. Additionally Bean pinged me with this message.On 11/6/2019 at 6:50 AM, Chickens said:@CrimsonDragon21you wanted me
Now YOU GET ME
So i responded to it
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1 minute ago, cicada said:
The only problem I can see with this is the chances of the promotion being made public. Unless we have protective roles, Newt will be done for.
Well it's still better to have Newt take over the role, then 3 Vanilla NPC all going for it and all having lost their ability to promote.
And as you can see, it can prove Newts town status. Cause if we all tell that Newt should take the role and on the phase change post, no dead role was claimed by a Vanilla NPC, it would tell us that Newt is indeed town.
2nd Mafia did not kill me or Newt. Imo it sounded more as that they were vary of a Doctor. So i assume the Doctor type role (Cleric) isn't part of the Mafia. -
The Paladin rose to the stand
"Ungrateful bunch. Have you not seen how the evil faction clouds your mind. We need Order. And i will bring it to you, whether you want it or not."
The audience cheers to welcome the new Leader. And with this the knights of the table round was established.
Just cause i play my Lawful Evil Paladin, everyone has to judge me and votes me off. Impudent bunch of fools. Know your place.
As you can see. My vote on Newt and Newts vote on me were like non deciding factor till we got bandwagoned for no good reason. And imo it was more of a joke standoff.
I didn't had the time by the end of the last day phase to make an analysed post. And after the bandwagoned caught so much fire over the night, even if there was no lynch guaranteed, i knew either me or Newt are gonna get lynched by the end of the day.
And cause i had a feeling both us are town,
(Newt made it kinda obvious, by hinting that he was Vanilla Townie. It could have been as a joke, but i thought he was Vanilla Townie with Aido and Amine and obviously i am myself Town)i used my Ability when i said that you guys will receive Divine Guidance. And i pinged Bean to make it obvious that i choose him as my target.
As for being called out for Town Hunting. That's an easy statement to say if you know who your mafia buddys are.
I am part of the uninformed Mayority, so obviously everyone who isn't confirmed or whomst i haven't got a townread on, are obviously enemies. Calling me out for townhunting. Big words.So Aido, Arch and Fali. All three called me out for Town Hunting. Tell me exactly why?
Elaborate on what you think of my way of playing was considered Town Hunting?As for who i find the most suspicious out of this bunch. It's Arch.
He just repeated what was already said, calling me out for Town Hunting and voting me off.
[Eliminate] Arch
As you can see i am the Paladin. And i am part of Town. You can think that i am part of Mafia, but i am not.
So obviously revealing my Role would take priority, after i used my only power role.
[Reveal] PaladinAs for Vanilla NPCs. I would suggest that Newt will take the Vigilante Role tonight.
Cause if multiple Vanilla NPCs do it this Night, you are all blocked and you all loose the ability to promote. As we know that Newt is a Vanilla NPC, he should take the priority.So i hope you can agree on this.
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"Your way of doing this contradicts my oath. My oath is greater than my life, so for sure it's greater than your miserable life. Repent with your life."
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You shall receive Divine Guidance.
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10 minutes ago, cicada said:
Wouldn’t it make sense for the Dungeon Master to receive such information about the game?
Kiet could be misinterpreting what Amine said.
But don’t mind me, I’m busy eating popcorn.
Well thanks for pointing out my mistake.
So jeah i was interpreting Amines message the wrong way. I thought he said he wanted to share the same news as Aido told us. But seems like he wanted to suggest to reveal Vanilla NPC?
As i look back to the chat. It seems like i am not the only one who misinterpret what Amine was saying in his post. Cause almost everyone who commented on Amine's post did the same mistake.@Hanyū Can you pls elaborate what you wanted to tell us in your last post?
36 minutes ago, Newt said:So are you saying the three Vanilla NPC give the same information? That is, if they indeed received some. What is the point of having 3 roles where all of them give the same information and nothing else?
I thought so, cause of what Aido and Amine said. But after Nicki told us, that we might have misinterpret Amines message, i am not sure anymore.
At least it sounded plausible to be the case.
And to answer your question. The game setup had 16 players in mind with only 1 Vanilla NPC. Cause we racked up 18 players, we have 3 Vanilla NPC. Meaning if one Vanilla NPC would have gotten that information, the others would have too.But well we have to wait for Amine to confirm, what he really meant.
29 minutes ago, cicada said:Wouldn’t it make sense for the Dungeon Master to receive such information about the game?
Well it would make sense, but who knows. Only Aido can confirm that.
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Guys. Read between the lines.
I have no time to poke around the bushes with those, who can't see the bigger picture, while Evil is wrecking havoc in this town.What is the purpose of NPCs in any game? Yes it's to give out information to the players.
What did Aido give us on the first day? Yes information about the evil faction.Also i already indicated on my post before, what makes me think that Aido is indeed the Vanilla NPC.
On 11/4/2019 at 1:58 PM, Aldo said:...Ah. I've been bested.
And, talk about useless. My role's only purpose is to tell you all that there's 5 mafia and 2 third-parties. -->What we would have expected from an NPC in any game.
That's it. Although still better than Vanilla Townie. --> Well yes Vanilla NPC is just as useless as Vanilla Townie, but it has a small purpose to distribute information.Unless there's something more to it, I guess that's it until I get Power-Up.
I have something in mind, about Vanilla Townies. Are they locked to be town? Then if so, we could try to reveall them to give them (probably) a new superpower or two. Unless the reveal boost doesn't work for them.
Secondly we have 3 Vanilla NPCs. And as Amine revealed in his posts, it seems that they all got the same information to share.
Well obviously he could have said that to establish himself as Town, when he is Mafia. But i don't think that is the case.
So i don't get why you are all suspecting Amine over a simple thing, that should have been known to us.
2 hours ago, Newt said:[Eliminate] Kiet
I don't like his post, I don't like his tone, I don't like the way he plays, I don't like how he rejected Bok, I don't like him
If you guys still need a reason for my vote then it's your problem lolz
I see you are standing in my way then.
[Unvote] Astra[Eliminate] Newt
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1 minute ago, Newt said:
I'm sorry but half your post is wrong
no u
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4 hours ago, Chickens said:
Alright people this is what ALI is trying to tell us
Oh i didn't even realise that.
Not only did he make me a character in his Opening Story, he also supports no bullying me.
Ali is so sweet.4 hours ago, Chickens said:Everybody
We need a leader which is why you should elect my mayor today
So that I can lead us to victory and so that all the sausages belong to me, the rightful owner
I will be your leader. I am here to weed the evil out of this town.
I am your lead, so follow me.2 hours ago, Astra125 said:Aldo, since you said all your role does is tell us how many non-town there are, do you want your role revealed? It might help you do something and the role equivalent of doc could protect you if it ends up being something good. Granted Aldo could be a mafia trying to get town credit by giving this info so what do you guys think.
There are 2 things you are missing out.
First he claimed Vanilla NPC. He said that the Information is all his role does, but at least it's better then Vanilla Townie. What he was implying is, that Vanilla NPC has a slight info they can spread, while Vanilla Townies are Vanilla Townies without anything.
2nd you realise that in this setup Rangers, if they really are the Watchers, can also be part of Mafia. What you just suggested let's me think that you want him to roleclaim and have a Doctor on him, so you could easily track the Doctor down.
But maybe i am reading to much between the lines.
Damn Amine, why did you have to reveal, that you are a Vanilla NPC too.
[Reveal] Vanilla NPC
[Eliminate] Astra
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I somehow get the feeling that Newt is the Jester
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1 hour ago, cicada said:
I feel like it should be safer to lynch Kiet so that the Coyote can't use him for free kills.
However, what then? We lynch Kiet and the Coyote is still active. What if someone kills Newt and he's not Coyote? What happens then?
I don't mind voting for either Kiet or Newt based on the plan Kiet suggested, but you have to take into consideration that the Witch may swap Newt/Kiet with someone. Especially if the Witch is a troll.
Alternatively, we could also lynch Ali. It's a bad move, but he did claim he was doused. Unless we manage to kill/lynch the Arsonist, there's no way he'll survive that.
You do know that the Witch is not the Transporter.
So i don't really get what you are trying to say here.
The safer bet is to lynch me, but that leaves us with no real information gained for this dayphase. So i think it's more beneficial to lynch someone else.
If Newt flips town, i am almost certain Fali is the Coyote.
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46 minutes ago, Candy said:
I think from the flavor text, Kiet was gonna do a die but Jelly saved him. Makes sense that serial killer would target the only confirmed town; however since we'll invariably increase Kiet's protection, I doubt they'll try killing him again.
No you got it wrong. It was flavour text.
On 11/2/2019 at 4:42 PM, CrimsonDragon21 said:No. That is totally wrong. It's mostly flavour posts.
If you follow the narrative from those 2 phasechanges, you see that everyone dispersed before i stood up again. And as the narrator saw blood, he thought my body was carried over there.Why would Nick give out Information what the Transporter would do.
That was my take on how you should interpret Nick's phasechange.
As for i remembered someone saying something with hairy, but i forgot about what exactly it was and who it was.33 minutes ago, Walpurgis said:I'm not a fan of giving the coyote endless guns and more options to pick them from, with three deaths on our side and four killing roles in total this game will have ended in two phases if we arent careful. Not only that, if you actually corner a monster they are likely to claim an important role, and if they do thats a death sentence for the person that has to counterclaim.
That's fair, but you all will get used to it after a few gamesThis is probably not going to be a super popular move but my reasons should be obvious.
[Eliminate] KietJeah i also suggested, that it might be for good to get me lynched.
But i was hoping that the coyote might be one of the inactive players and didn't pull the trigger.As for what i stated in a previous post, I get the feeling Newt might be the Coyote.
So therefore i am voting him off.
If he flips Town, the Vigilante should shoot me the coming Nightphase.
If he flips Coyote, you don't have to kill me and we are down another foe. -
If i am Vanilla NPC, i am gonna troll
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1 hour ago, NickCrash said:
The hooded figure leaned closer and Bok looked over his shoulder, getting a glimpse at the hairy arm threatening him.
IT'S CANDY. ELIMINATE CANDY.
Okay but for real now. For this Coyote Kill to happen so late. It feels kinda weird.
It's either the Coyote got triggered by one of the latest messages, or it is someone who haven't said anything till now.
I rather think it's the latter. And the only possible candidate for that would have been Newt.
And for him to just state his vote without many context to it, makes it just worse.
[Unvote] Fali
[Eliminate] Newt
Wanna elaborate on that?
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Just cause someone comes with a basic idea of the Stalker or Jailer visiting/jailing me, doesn't mean they are innocent in any sort.
As for any of them visiting me. I don't think it would have an impact.
Quote05. Willie E. Coyote
They may guess the role of a person. Each time they guess correctly, they receive a gun. Each time they guess wrong, they receive a fake gun. The fake gun kills the user.
The Coyote must discard the previous gun, if they get a new one. The guns can only be used during the day. They do not reveal the shooter.
Wins alone.As you can see, the Coyote guesses the role of a person. It isn't considered as a visit. (At least that's what Nick told me)
So he would still get free guns from me without being able to get trailed or blocked.
And as i read through the posts. It seems like not everyone caught up, that i was the Bulletproof who survived the lynch. So that doesn't have to mean, that only the inactive people are prime candidates to be the Coyote.
Also a Coyote could have guessed right and played fairly active to scumhunt (not using his gun today) just to slip in with townreads. My guess is that one of the active people, who were talking about this Coyote scenario, is the actual Coyote.As for the whole situation with Ali.
I don't know how much i can trust that. Either he is telling the truth and hopes to get more out of his role, before getting burned to crisp.Or he is the Arsonist and tried to douse either one of the targets who died this night. And claims that he got doused himself to get towncredit.
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1 hour ago, Alistair said:
sorry bean tldr
@CrimsonDragon21 how do you know Fali is coyote and Lykos is serial killer?
ngl you wishing for town to lose in the same post makes it somewhat hard to trust your claimsNa i am just kidding. I don't know what they might be.
But both Fali and Lykos don't strike me as town from what they have posted. It's just a gut feeling.
For the others, i don't know. Some seem town to me, but most haven't contributed much to evaluate them.As for why i stated that i wish town to loose. It's a joke.
I am just mad, that some guys lynched me for literally no reason.
And now i am literally a vanilla townie and a provider for guns to the Coyote after i lost my ability through the Lynch.
Idk if it's better to have me lynched for good, so that i can't provide the Coyote free guns.
But the Coyote might also be one of the afk players (Amber or Sophie), so we might want to wait for it.Also i have scumreads on Anti from his last post.
28 minutes ago, Anti-loser said:My inactivity upon Day1 was solely for my own safety and many others did so too.
And we should act now.
That last paraphrase just strikes me the wrong way.
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5 minutes ago, Falirion said:
read the post in full you idiot me... If i was the coyote i would have "guessed" your role and someone would be dead, possibly you if that is how the role works, also why would i keep bringing that role up if I was it, it makes no sense
To make it easier for you to blend in obviously. Noone would suspect you.
And well Nick confirmed, that this is a valid Strategy. So it's all your guys fault.
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HOW?
JAILOR FUCKED UP BIG TIME.
IS THAT THE BIGGEST GAMETHROW EVER?Bigger then Lykos Gamethrow in Big Brother?Vote for yes or no.
ALSO SCREW YOU ALL.
Fortunately i had my cheats. Fortunately i also found scums in Fali and Lykos.
Fali is the Coyote and Lykos the serial killer.[Eliminate] Fali
53 minutes ago, Falirion said:1 hour ago, NickCrash said:I followed the trail, waiting to see Kiet, but instead found Astra's body in a dark alley.
also just noticed, jelly transporting as a final act?
No. That is totally wrong. It's mostly flavour posts.
If you follow the narrative from those 2 phasechanges, you see that everyone dispersed before i stood up again. And as the narrator saw blood, he thought my body was carried over there.Why would Nick give out Information what the Transporter would do.
As you can see i haven't gotten shot yet. This means there some indications, what might have happened.
- The Werewolf is one of the afk type of players and haven't used his NA at all
- The Werewolf didn't trust any roleclaims (but mine should have been very obvious) and didn't risk to get a Fake Gun- The Werewolf used his NA on Nano, who got executed.
- The Werewolf used his NA on me, but didn't had the time to make his appearance yet.
I rather think that the Werewolf visited Nano and got a Gun, which he can't use as of right now.
If by any means i get shoot in the process of today, that means the Werewolf visited me.Also what Ali said, i also want to hear more from the players who haven't really said much as of rn.
01. Anti - 1 Post
02. Alistair - 3 Posts
03. Jelly - Transporter [Killed N1]- 2 Posts and his vote was one who got me lynched
04. Lykos - 2 Posts
05. Drago - 2 Posts
06. Aldo - 6 Posts
07. Astra - Investigator [Killed N1]- 3 Posts08. Nicki - 3 Posts
09. Nano - Sabbat [Killed N1]- 14 Posts10. Arch - 6 Posts
11. Bean - 7 Posts
12. Newt - 1 Post
13. Falirion - 10 Posts
14. Bok - 1 Post and was the reason i got lynched
15. Kiet - 7 Posts16. Candy - 6 Posts
17. Lia - 1 Post
18. Amber - 0 Post
19. Sopheria - 0 Post
20. Seal - 2 Post
I actually want to hear more from people who only posted minimal posts (cause there were like quadruple posts with not much info).
Everyone should feel self responsible who i am directing this too.
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YOU FOOLS.
YOU CAN'T KILL ME TODAY.
I ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD. CHEAT.
IT ALLOWS ME TO SURVIVE A LYNCH.
SUCK ON THOSE MAFIA AND TOWN SCOUNDRELS.I HOPE YOU ALL LOOSE.
Dungeons & Dragons Mafia [END - TOWN WINS]
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What do you want to hear from me exactly?
Also how does anything you list make Baz, Me or Lykos prime targets? You are just saying that, but not elaborating on your thoughts why you think so.
Who got the Lynch onto Amine, so that there could have been a Lynch on a Townie and a Townie dying through his wounds?
[Eliminate] Fali
Bok pls. If i would have read the posts, i would have executed Arch.
As i was saying, i didn't had the time to read the posts and only saw that a huge bandwagon formed against either Newt or me. So i decided to kill Bean, who always wants to kill me early in the game for no particular reason.
We was also the only one who pinged me with a passive aggressive message lmao. So deserved.I wish that one Information Gathering Role can reveal what he got this far, cause we are in a pinch right now.