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  1. So I've been doing different challenge runs and decided on a new one that I wanted to try out. I am only allowed six Pokemon. Each of the six have the lowest stat for any given stat. If a Pokemon appears on the list twice (it's the lowest stat pokemon in Attack and Defense), go down the list until you hit the next unique Pokemon. Ignore Wishiwashi, Legendaries, and Mythics. Following the rules, we get these pokemon:

     

    Shedinja (HP)

    Shuckle (Attack)

    Blissey (Defense)

    Mega Beedrill (Special Attack)

    Sharpedo (Special Defense)

    Pyukumuku (Speed)

     

    None of these Pokemon are available from the beginning. I thought Weedle would be in the garden, but it's a bust. Since I wanted to use these Pokemon from the start, I decided to trade in a Nincada from someone on the forums. Nincada is the only Pokemon in this list that is a chance event, so I figured I had a 4/5 chance of trading him in anyway. I decided to do away with the frustration and bring him in first.

     

    The trouble with that is you don't get another available Pokemon until after the Tangrowth. You need the Warehouse Key to pick up Happiny, so until then, I was stuck with only a Nincada or Shedinja. Tough pickings. Turns out it is indeed doable.

     

    Now, looking at Shedinja's movepool, I hate it. I specifically hate that Nincada gets Dig at Lvl. 37 and I'd love for my Shedinja to have that move. Additionally, Julia packs moves that Shedinja is weak to, so I literally couldn't beat her with a Shedinja. I'd have to use Nincada until I got Blissey. Whoo.

     

    The game goes relatively smoothly until Julia. All of the trainers in the area go down to a combination of Sand Attack and Harden and then Scratch/Absorb/Fury Swipes. Even Fern goes down fairly easily because you can set up Hardens against his Budew and then Potion up and take hits from everything else. Nincada does fairly well in the sewage plant too, especially with Fern's help. It's smooth sailing until Julia.

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    Julia.

     

    I went into the fight with Julia initially at Level 20, hoping for some miracle. Thought maybe Mud Slap could be helpful. Nope.

     

    Turns out if you use Mud Slap again Plusle, Julia encores you and then switches to the Pom Pom Bird. Air Slash is instant kill, so no dice. Then I thought: Why not set up Harden against the Plusle and see how many hits I can tank from Air Slash. 2. The answer is 2. At +6 to Defense, a Level 20 Nincada can tank 2 hits from Air Slash. And I do maybe a 1/5th of Pom Pom Bird's HP per Fury Swipes. It ain't gunna work.

     

    But! My saving grace. Nincada learns Bide at Lvl 29. Perfect! I can tank two hits from Air Slash and then on the third hit, Bide would strike out and OHKO Pom Pom Bird. So I grinded against the Grand Hall trainer with my little Nincada to Lvl 29. Figured I could level him back down to Lvl 20 afterwards with Common Candies.

     

    Wrong.

     

    I got Bide. No real issue there. I forgot, however, that I had almost no money, and I'd need 9 Common Candies. I lost too often against the Grand Hall trainer, and I figured 'meh, let me just try with an over leveled Nincada'.

     

    It was painful. But I got the job done. Julia down.

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    Scraggy Squad.

     

    I did not expect this group of Scraggy to give me so much trouble, but they forced me to grind until Level 37 for Dig. Yep. I grinded against the Grand Hall trainer with a disobedient Nincada until Lvl 37 to beat the Scraggy Squad. All for Dig. 

     

    It... worked. I guess. I won, so I count that as it working. It took me an hour of resets, though, because using Dig gives Nincada twice as many chances to be disobedient and the Intimidate at the beginning of the fight caused a lot of issues. Eventually though, all of the Digs hit as intended and I beat them. After several hours of grinding and an hour of resets.

     

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    Plusle Tangrowth

     

    Went down first try. Fucking pushover.

     

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    Day Care Grunts

     

    Oh my fucking god I hate these two. Their Minior is immune to Dig! So I couldn't do a god damn thing against them. I had to resort to Bide tactics to take them down. Here's how the battle had to go:

     

    1. Dig on the right-hand Pokemon

    2. Dig on the second right-hand Pokemon

    3. Dig on the left-hand Pokemon

    4. Cut on Minior first turn

    5. Get Confuse Ray'd 

    6. Use Bide

    7. Rollout hits

    8. Rollout hits

    9. Bide hits

     

    You'd THINK that this would be simple. But Dig and Bide can have disobedience issues for each turn they're active. I needed to pass 10 disobience checks with 3 of those also needing to pass Confuse checks. I could fail about 4 of these disobedience checks before having to reset. Bide had to go through perfectly or I needed to reset. These two meteor grunts took me an hour and a half of resets. Oh my god.

     

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    Training up a new Shedinja and Happiny

     

    The easy part! Yay! I have another party Pokemon! I wanted Shedinja to have Bug Bite and Dig on him for some type coverage. So I had to train another Nincada to 37 so both parents had Dig. I did cheat here and trained one up on another save file further along so it didn't take another 4 hours. There was no challenge in this, and I realized late that both parents needed to know Dig. I got Bug Bite from a Caterpie.

     

    It took a box and a half of Nincada eggs before I got one I considered decent enough of a Shedinja. I thought this would be easy. Defense, Sp Defense, and HP IVs could literally be anything. I'd just prefer a high Attack IV, decent Special Attack, and good Speed. Took WAY longer than anticipated.

     

    The Happiny I got on my first try. It's not perfect, but it had 4 perfect IVs and a decent nature, so I thanked the RNG gods and just moved on. No use wasting time.

     

    I then went back to my old pal the Grand Hall trainer and switched in a disobedient Nincada untill Shedinja and Blissey were to Lvl 25. Now I can go take on Fern and Florinia. We'll see how long that takes me.

     

    Here is my team as it stands:

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    Shedinja (Naughty) 

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    Blissey (Calm)
     

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    Old Mama Nincada (Gentle)

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    I'll take more screenshots as I go. I wasn't sure if I'd get this far, so didn't expect to document it. But at this point I think people might be interested, so I figured out I'd document it out as I played.

  2. I'm thinking of doing a starter-only run, but the [E17] Pokemon by gym leader topic doesn't list the starters except in the starter area, and the [E16] Pokemon locations have some of the starter but I'm worried they're out of date. Is there an up to date list of where you can find starter Pokemon in the wild?

  3. 1 minute ago, GS BALL said:

    Isn't Turtonator/Heatmor 50% chance to appear, each? They don't appear through Rock Smash, they are overworld encounters. Either one is going to be present per save file, in one of the bottom levels, next to the 3 rocks containing hidden items, such as Charcoal.

     

    In my e18 community release, i found Heatmor again, like always.

    Neither of them are showing up, though. I thought since Turtonator wasn't there, Heatmor would be, but I'm not seeing him either.

  4. 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy1 said:

    You can find heatmor in the wild in tektite ridge when you go through the power gem earthquake/bulldoze shenanigans in the cave! 

    Go outside and you can find them in the grass. You can also find turtonator in the cave too  

    I'm not near there yet, though. I'm doing a mono dragon run and would like a Turtonator before the next gym.

  5. I'm in Pyrous mountain trying to find Turtonator. When I rock smash the rock where he should be, I get Magcargo. This should mean Heatmor shows up down the other ladder leading to where the Charcoal and Fire Stone are but he doesn't show up. Any ideas? Were they moved in E18?

  6. Unsure if anyone's interested, but I made a breakdown of unique 'mons available per monotype and compared that to the amount of unique 'mons overall.

     

    It was useful for me to know, at a glance, how many pokemon I'd have available for any given run. Might not be 100% accurate since I'm only using it for my own personal use, but it's close.

     

    Type Count Percentage
    Dragon 19 5.16%
    Ice 19 5.16%
    Fairy 23 6.25%
    Ghost 23 6.25%
    Electric 24 6.52%
    Fighting 27 7.34%
    Steel 28 7.61%
    Fire 28 7.61%
    Poison 30 8.15%
    Dark 31 8.42%
    Rock 31 8.42%
    Psychic 33 8.97%
    Bug 35 9.51%
    Ground 39 10.60%
    Grass 41 11.14%
    Flying 52 14.13%
    Normal 62 16.85%
    Water 65 17.66%
    Total Unique 368  
  7. On 8/12/2018 at 6:55 PM, Starry Knight said:

    Idk, possibly. Online is down currently though

    @Aegisth Servers are back on, it doesn't seem like I have an eevee with Baton pass

    The Fire Stone would be more than enough, if the offer still stands.

  8. On 8/12/2018 at 5:54 PM, Starry Knight said:

    I can, you still on?

    I'd stepped out for a bit. I'm around now, though.

     

    Also, unsure if it's too much to ask, but do you have an Eevee with Baton Pass?

  9. I've been looking through other people's AAR on their challenge runs and I know I don't have the patience to make the post look pretty. I'm interested in talking about the challenge and see if anyone else has done it.

     

    I'm only using Pokemon that cannot evolve (mega-evolution does not count). Interestingly, the only pokemon that's not available is Kangaskhan, so I chose it as my starter. Otherwise, I was having a blast with Chatot in a previous run and allowed myself him as well before Julia. Otherwise, here the available mons pre-Shelly:

     

    Pokemon Location
    Unown Grand Stairway B2F: Cave
    Dunsparce Grand Stairway B2F: Cave
    Stantler Malchous Forest: Egg (1/4 chance event)
    Plusle Obsidia Alleyway: Event (Pokesnax required) (1/2 chance event)
    Minun Obsidia Alleyway: Event (Pokesnax required) (1/2 chance event)
    Zangoose Lapis || Obsidia || Peridot: Event Chain (Start the chain in one of the alleys where you see a Zangoose in a garbage bin during night. Afterwards play Hide and Seek throughout the alleys for 4 turns.) (I think it could be found as soon as the first badge in one of the Peridot Alleyways and then "cheese" the random factor to keep the hide and seek only in that region, but legitimately you can find it before Shelly.)
    Castform Obsidia: Trade Furret (In the house near the Pokemon Center)
    Pachirisu Opal: Event (Beat bullies) (1/2 chance event)
    Carnivine Jasper: Cave (In the ward generally)
    Emolga Jasper: Event (South of the pokemon center, Rain required)
    Cryogonal North Obsidia: Trade Sunkern (Breed Sunflora and trade with the old man inside the leftmost house) (1/5 event chance)
    Furfrou North Obsidia: Trade Sunkern (Breed Sunflora and trade with the old man inside the leftmost house) (1/5 event chance)
    Carbink North Obsidia: Trade Sunkern (Breed Sunflora and trade with the old man inside the leftmost house) (1/5 event chance)

     

    So far my team is:

     

    Kangaskhan - Lvl 25

    Chatot - Lvl 28

    Castform - Lvl 25

    Plusle - Lvl 26

    Emolga - Lvl 20 (just captured)

     

    I plan on going after Zangoose next and will likely start using Carbink and Carnivine. I'm unsure if I'll end up keeping Plusle or Emolga. Emolga has the nice flying advantage while Plusle is a bit faster and has more special attack. 

     

    Would love to hear thoughts and experiences with this type of run.

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