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Not gym leader related, but I didn't want to make a whole new thread for it
With regards to Ditto/Arceus, what's the general strategy to beating him? I cheesed most of the game with X-items, so the mons I have on me are mostly garbage like Emolga/Leavanny
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This guide is meant to help people get started with the game. Given it's based on ORAS, the only change in the meta is the release of Hoopa forms. If you mean additions of viability and threat lists, that should be a completely different thread.
It's not just that, the team archetypes are pretty outdated. For instance, Stall has been seeing an increase in usage with stuff like Goth to combat opposing stallbreakers, and just more wincons against opposing stall, and the Bulky Offence is really a Semi-Stall/Fat Stall team. Bulky Offense teams work the other way, with a focus on wallbreakers and a core that allows pivoting
It's very minor stuff, but it's something that should be fixed
Everything else is fine though
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I got tuteed by an amazing tutor on Smogon, and I've been enjoying it as of late. Sun teams are generally my favourite to run, Bellsprout is just so good. The speed ties annoy the hell out of me though.
Are there any other metas you enjoy playing?
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Topic in question: http://www.pokemonreborn.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=12087
I've noticed that the thread is incredibly outdated, to the point where Lando-I is still taken into consideration in OU teams. The OP also seems relatively inactive, so I was wondering if I could remake that thread
And if so, who do I have to send it to for QC?
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Totodile's a qt
Would you say that stealth rocks over-centralize the metagame?
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If you still have issues with Shade, go back to the department store a bit and buy a bunch of X-items. A couple of X-SpD and X-Def, along with an X-Speed or two
Have Amphy paralyse Gengar, then get a free switch into something that can live one thunderbolt/shadow claw, and alternate between healing/boosting. You can save on X-SpA if your boosting mon has charge beam from the first gym, but otherwise all you need to do is to set up on Gengar and sweep the rest.
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Celebi @ LeftoversAbility: Natural CureEVs: 240 HP / 140 Def / 108 SpD / 20 SpeBold Nature- Baton Pass- Giga Drain- Recover- Heal BlockSomething I've been running to great success, Heal Block Celebi. Of course it's purely meant for stall teams as an answer to opposing stall, but it does an amazing job at it. Baton Pass is purely for pivoting purposes, and it lets you easily gain momentum against mons that are Heal Blocked. The rest are just standard.Kyurem @ LeftoversAbility: PressureEVs: 56 HP / 200 SpA / 252 SpeModest Nature- Earth Power- Ice Beam- Substitute- Roost
On the topic of stall, Kyu-N is another great stallbreaker I've been using. SubRoost+Pressure lets Kyurem stall out PP really easily. Nothing else much, everything else is standard Kyurem
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Are there any plans to update this? It's incredibly outdated, the meta's changed a whole bunch since when this was first written
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Antidisestablishmentarianism is
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:^) Keep trying
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Banned for posting after you reached the 666 mark
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Banned because I hate puns
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It's one of the most garbage moves ingame. Sounds cool af though
Synchronoise Umbreon new meta
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Rotom-H for sure. It's an amazing blanket check to a large number of threats, yet he's not used much because SR weakness and the opportunity cost of using Rotom-W.
Shedinja's another favourite of mine, he makes such a wonderful pivot and wall. The only issue is that you have to build a team around Sheddy, which is probably why he isn't used as much
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Sup!
Right off the bat, some general changes I'd recommend would be to run Power Up Punch > Healing Wish on M-Lop. While Healing Wish is an amazing move in it's own right, nobody in your team truly benefits from it, since they're for the most part very self-sufficient. Power Up Punch lets you combat fat teams more easily, since common checks like Hippowdon get obliterated by a +1 Return/HJK.
In a similar vein, I recommend running SD Stallbreaker Gliscor > 3 Attacks Gliscor. Your team also has issues dealing with stall, and this provides you a reliable wincon against them.
For reference,
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 8 Def / 200 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Facade
- Roost
Aside from that, I recommend you run Reflect Type Starmie > Tentacruel as a spinner. While Tenta is no slouch defensively, he lacks the recovery that Starmie is able to capitalise on, which means he gets worn down relatively quickly. Starmie on the other hand is able to capitalise on Reflect Type+Recover to effectively combat potential checks like Sharp/Zone, and wear them down more easily.
For reference
Starmie @ LeftoversAbility: Natural CureEVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 SpeTimid Nature- Scald- Rapid Spin- Recover- Reflect TypeSomething that strikes me as weird in this team is Sylveon's role. Heal Bell seems really counter-productive on a team that's able to absorb status easily, be it via Natural Cure Celebi or PH Gliscor, and the only status that really bothers the team is either a burn or a para on Lopunny. Considering that you're already cramming so many roles into Celebi, you could consider running Dual Screens Klefki > Sylveon. The main benefit Klefki has is the ability to beat common Chomp leads, as well as M-Diancie leads.For reference,Klefki @ Light ClayAbility: PranksterEVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDCalm Nature- Reflect- Light Screen- Magnet Rise- Flash CannonThis means you can free up Celebi's moveset a bit, and run more support moves to make better use of Celebi.
Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 108 Spe
Bold Nature
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Giga Drain
- Stealth Rocks
Sub+Pass further eases your issues with status, and eases prediction at very little cost. Nothing on the team can really deal with Rotom-W, so drain is used as the mono-attacking move here
Regarding the issues you had with M-Meta, if you're willing to remove Diancie, you could choose to run Scarf Victini > Diancie. Victini doesn't fear anything bar the rare EQ, and this also helps you out with your issue where M-Sciz/Ferro/M-Venu completely walls your team
For reference,
Victini @ Choice ScarfEVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpeAdamant Nature- V-create- Bolt Strike- Zen Headbutt- U-turnGood luck with laddering! -
I just want to contest something that's been mentioned, that Torkoal is outclassed by Moltres/Tran in mono fire
While it's true that in general play, Torkoal has absolutely no niche in OU, mono fire is a whole different story. Torkoal is fire's best answer to SR, defog Moltres/Char just can't come in as freely as Torkoal can to remove rocks. You end up with a team that gets controlled by SR, which is something you desperately want to avoid.
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Sup!
M-Doom's a very interesting choice for a mega. With the immense speed creeps we've been facing since ORAS was implemented, Doom sits in a comfortable speed tier that outspeeds a great majority of common threats, from M-Meta to M-Bro
One thing I've noticed about the team off-hand is that you're running two defoggers, which even in teams with multiple S-Rock weaknesses is a little too excessive. Because of this, I recommend running either Bulky SD Scizor > Defog Scizor, or running TrickSpecs Latios > Defog Latios
Besides that, I'd also recommend running Smack Down > Stone Edge if you're planning on running Soft Sand Lando. Most checks to Lando depend on their immunity to ground moves, and smack down snatches you momentum on these mons
With regards to Chesnaught, Bulletproof is a much better option over Overgrow, even on BD sets, since the Bulletproof lets you more reliably set up on stuff like M-Venu, who you end up losing to if you get rid of Bulletproof
With regards to the team as a whole, there are quite a few issues that you need to look into.
Your team has no reliable answer to stall, particularly M-Eye based stall. Something you can do to alleviate this is to either run Stallbreaker Gliscor/TG+RD Manaphy
Similarly, the team also has issues with HO teams, and it desperately wants speed control. You could probably choose to run Prankster+T-wave Thudurus/Klefki to help slow down the opponent. Alternatively, running Thunder Wave > Pain Split on Rotom-W or switching Soft Sand Lando-T > Scarf Lando-T
With regards to individual threats, M-Alt and X-Char are two mons that most of your team have trouble dealing with. Nobody appreciates switching into these two, with Sciz fearing Fire Blast from M-Alt, while Rotom-W lacks the recovery to consistently check X-Char, letting him wear you down easily.
In a similar vein, trappers like Zone and Goth hamper your team immensely, since you're heavily dependant on Scizor as a blanket check to most mons.
Fat stuff like M-Hera, as well as stuff like Hoopa-U and Kyu-B also place an incredible amount of pressure on your team, so you might want to find multiple ways to deal with them
Good balance teams are honestly very difficult to build right now. If you need a space in the team to compress more roles, Latios atm is relatively redundant
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Minor update, just discovered a clever instakill hidden in the crystal field
Earthquake transforms the crystal cavern into a cave, and from there I just threw two ground moves and collapsed the cave