GreyRavensong
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V14 impressions and direction (SPOILERS)
GreyRavensong replied to Cyphre's topic in Official Rejuvenation Club's Discussions
I cannot upvote or like this enough, the openness while remaining both respectful and eloquent takes immeasurable willpower. Granted I started out being a lot more toned down in my responses but the subreddit is a den of sycophants who downvote and belittle anyone who has any criticism at all, respectful or otherwise. It got to the point that I deleted every post and comment I ever made on the rejuv subreddit. I genuinely hope Jan and the other devs see at the very least your comment and take some notes and consider changing course, because as things stand now I have extremely little faith in seeing this story resolved in a way that will satisfy me. The presentation is and has always been top notch but the convoluted mess of a story keeps it from being as good as it can be, deltarune seems to have been a bad influence in the devs, they seem to forget how long and at times tedious replaying this game is so taking all the weird choices from that game has only lowered the quality here. (I’ve never played deltarune but I’ve noticed a change in rejuv starting around the time undertale got popular) it’s infuriating to put so much time into this game to be inspired to make something BY this game and see it stagnate due to the over abundance of poor ideas and tropes that are executed awfully. I ADORE this game, I look up to the devs I WISH I could make a fan game myself (I lack the tech abilities and friends so I’m stuck with a mountain of planned ideas and storyboards and no way to do anything with them) this game hilariously kickstarted my enby journey with Alain’s original sprite (gods I miss that one the legacy sprite isn’t quite the same) so this game means ALOT to me. And seeing it like this eats at me like crazy, I can’t get it out of my head (I’m a very anxious person prone to thinking too much) that when it’s all said and done I may have preferred forgetting about it completely back in v2 or 3. I hope that doesn’t end up the case and the dev team pays attention to the criticism and not the sycophantic echo chamber -
V14 impressions and direction (SPOILERS)
GreyRavensong replied to Cyphre's topic in Official Rejuvenation Club's Discussions
I’m honestly with you on a lot of this, of course I was bullied off the rejuv subreddit for saying anything of the sort. I HATE Kaina, I HATE Zenos, the new nobody criminals make no sense to be added outside of MAYBE future side quests and even then that’s just bloating the play time MORE, I abhor that ng+ is basically gonna be a every update gotta replay the whole game again thing, I hate how buggy it was (I recruited everyone during my paragon run and Amanda would NOT join me so I couldn’t get to level 5 group) the writing is generally really sloppy, plenty of characters feel off, like not even remotely like themselves. I dislike just how much of everything is kept from the player regarding our own plans and motives (never played deltarune and have no interest in it) I wanted to love v14 I’ve been playing rejuvenation on and off since the game only had 2 or 3 badges available. The battles are generally unfun, I’m not someone who enjoys difficulty or tedium and they have become both. The 6v12s are annoying doubly so with things like multiple health bar boss pokemon who get omniboosts and nerf you through the battle WHILE THEY STILL HAVE MULTIPLE OTHER POKEMON the contant removal of status effects you took the time to apply, The over importance of Melia/Maria in EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF The plot, Crescent being revealed as vitus daughter only if you have her kill him, the complete disregard for player choice and agency because “just trust melia and her plan” and some Peronal gripes of mine are the doubling down on femininity in Alain’s sprite designs when it’s meant to be one of the enby options, the complete disrespect the player gets at every turn within the narrative. We lose every single time in v14 even when we win we lose. It’s edging overly close to misery porn at this point. It’s completely hopeless. Gods I HOPE that v15 addresses this because I haven’t seen any real positivity toward the story this time around and those that are even mildly positive still tend to dislike or not understand a lot of it. Which makes sense because without ng+ it’s mostly nonsense now, the fact it’s a requirement to dump another 100+ hours in every single time the game updates is lunacy. Legitimately insane you should be able to understand the story on a first pass, massive important details should t be hidden beneath ng+. Paragon mode v14 was awful, bad ending, shitty twists, even more character bloat. V14 renegade is guilty of crimes against writing with Zenos and its entire ending segment. Variya just kinda hanging out in where ever she is doing nothing even though it was hinted at that she should be dead. Sigh hopefully we can fallow her lead and also not stay dead. Fuck Zenos, fuck Kaina, fuck Lorna and zed. Just immensely sloppy and poorly done reveals. Wouldn’t have been so bad say if some of this was hinted at in idk v7 and revealed in v12 but nooooo wait till the 11tg hour for another “but wait ackshually this is the real main bad guy and they are super mega op and kill the player and kill everyone else and I win” it feels like children refusing to lose on a playground. It’s not meant to be a battle between the writers and the player. Nobody is supposed to win here we are all meant to enjoy ourselves together. Speaking of the writing it felt off on a way I cannot put into words. Disjointed for sure but off in other ways I can’t describe. Characters felt off, actions taken felt off, everything had this haze of just off to it. The whole thing felt like a fever dream a child may have. It felt like teenagers first edgy story. I had hoped for better but it’s edging closer to reborns writing again. (Which no disrespect to anyone involved in either game but I HATED reborn) it’s all just so messy. And I’m sorry for the massive wall of text, after deleting all my comments on the subreddit since people are jerks I needed somewhere to vent this and seeing someone openly have the same opinion was like ambrosia for a wound that’s been festering since v14s release. -
Sigh. For all the love I have for rejuvenation (a lot otherwise I wouldn’t be here) I HATE v14s endings. Killing off the player no matter what you do in BOTH routes is definitely a choice I guess… hopefully I get to play as myself again at SOME point. Unless there’s some way to avoid getting killed in paragon and avoid getting taken over by zenos in renegade then hey maybe I’m stupid. But I really dislike that both zenos and kaina came out of basically nowhere only to kill the player basically. I mean hey sure Zenos go ahead take all my pokemon…. And Sure Kaina who’s actually been madame x sometimes and otherwise hasn’t been hinted at being important otherwise (to my knowledge at least) sure go ahead and kill me or or better yet just make me sit there and have my friends hate me and then DIE. The paragon endings for v14 are not ones I’m fond of (spending the last day with Nancy is the sole exception) and even then it’s tainted by the fact that you can’t do ANYTHING with the invite from variya hell it’s not even an item. I know nobody gonna read this (I just posted something similar on Reddit hoping at least someone feels the same) but for the immense amount of love I have for this game, I feel cheated by the endings this time around. Maybe I’m just sick of tragedies, or maybe I’ve got more narcissistic traits than I thought (which was none) also killing amber AND Alain my two favs is truly evil! Maybe I was hoping to have a chance in at least one world not to get fucked over completely. Even if it’s only a fictional story. But I really should know better no matter which version of me real or otherwise I am horrendously unlucky and will suffer for no reason other than because I can. I appreciate all the work that went into this game and the work that will continue to go into it, hell sad as it is the characters in rejuv really are the closest thing I have to friends these days. The presentation across the board from music to artwork was glorious. I’m just having a hard time coping with the fact that once again the story that should have been mine has been ripped away and given to another.
Sorry if any of the devs read this I really hope this doesn’t come off as hostile, it’s more grief I guess I feel like I’m mourning a part of my life I felt like was important. Hell Alain’s old sprite is responsible for me beginning to question my gender back in the day. So in a small way the game and its characters mean a lot y’know and that included other me, both paragon and renegade. Virtue and vice, there’s parts of my personality I see reflected back at me through them. Or I did… now I may as well be blind. I suppose they meant it when they said progressing further meant it was the end…
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Pokemon champions is kinda lame ngl. Gacha mechanics to get Pokemon sucks. I don’t have home or any of the switch games anymore. Had to sell them to eat lunch a few weeks back. So I’m at a huge disadvantage, definitely doesn’t help that I never played any of the new games since bdsp or legends arceus. Gen 9 sucks ngl I really dislike every single Pokemon design and the power creep is too much. Glad darkrai got something but damn it is UGLY and SLOW?! Why would they make darkrai slow. Absol z is cool. Garchomp z being a special attacker is really dumb tho. Official Pokemon has just kinda sucked for a while now I guess. At least in champions they don’t aggressively gender me. Legend arceus made me so sad with that. Course I highly doubt Pokemon will ever be what I want it to be. (But damn who is adding an enby option hurting? And can we please chose our age or something I’m not a kid anymore and honestly seems like most people playing Pokemon aren’t either) sigh. Sorry for the barely coherent rant this morning. Just bored and tired and sad.
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So, just finished my 2nd run of DAV and I’m pretty sure I made the exact same choices the whole way through again lol. Still made me cry tho. Rip davrin.
hurts way more as a fellow warden I swear. -
So finally got around to doing a renegade run on rejuv. Lots of thoughts. All the ones regarding the game are good. The ones regarding my irl personality’s similarities to a strange hybrid of m2 and the interceptor as they appear in that route. Less good. But if I know ANYTHING it’s that I have a real nasty self loathing problem. And cannot exactly be trusted to have an honest view of myself. Least I’m more honest about that than m2 will ever be. Heh.
that final monologue from the interceptor tho… felt a little to close to shit id actually say in that position. Kinda freaky ngl. But I digress. Cya
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I have Been playing Nioh 3 for 7 and a half hours. I fucking love this game.
that is all.
buy Nioh!
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Hi.
it needs to be Feb 6th already. I NEED MY NIOH 3!!!! There’s nothing left in the demo for me ughhh and I already completed code vein 2. Why do so few games come out that are interesting
