[The Case of Deathwing Sonia]

16 hours ago, SilverAngelus said:

I always thought the Sonia in the Pokeball Factory was the same as the Sonia we fought in Akuwa Town. Perhaps she didn't have all her Pokemon during the first encounter and so that did not count as a loss, to an extent? Either way, the Deathwings do eventually bring the player and Aelita to Blacksteeple regardless of defeating Sonia in battle, so they didn't technically fail in chapter five.

 

Yeah, that makes sense they technically do succeed in their goal of abducting the player and Aelita so it makes sense Sonia is still around later. I guess it leads to an unanswerable question of what would have been defined as failure for a deathwing member for that specific mission. 

 

10 hours ago, NerfCaulifla said:

Long ago, I tested the possible win and it seems like beating Sonia does not change anything, the story continues as if you lose to her, even if you win. No Karma Points or new dialogues (at least I think, since I don't remember if I tested in V12 or V13). These battles are made to let you loose 90% of the times or higher. However, some of these battles are fairly winnable and give Karma Points, Relationship points and different dialogues, like:

 

Togepi vs Houndoom (in V12, Togepi with AP boost could survive at least one attack or forcing another Nasty Plot if I remember correctly, but it still requires luck)

Vs Shadow Mewtwo (Actually, REALLY easy due to being a 2 vs 1 and Mewtwo hurts itself since first turn)

Vs Madame X's Yveltal: in V13, it has only Decimation, which has + priority but no longer OHKO. What this mean? Destruction vs a bird who can block priority moves. Or Cursed Body ( laughing in Banette and Froslass ) + a tank like Bronzong. Or even Pangoro, but I never tested it. Just let it struggles against weaker Pokèmon. How funny.

 

 

Thank you for the information on this and on ways to beat the other "impossible" fights in the game. I know I was struggling bad trying to get a good roll on Togepi vs Houndoom fight.

[The Case of Deathwing Sonia]

In chapter 5, when the protagonist first reaches Akuwa town with Aelita they have to fight a deathwing named Sonia in a seemingly unwinnable battle. Deathwing Sonia appears later in the story again during the Tecanlite Factory sidequest with Aya in West Gearen.

 

I was curious if Sonia gets replaced with a different deathwing member with a different team during the factory sidequest if you managed to beat her back in Akuwa town. If you do the Pokeball Factory sidequest you learn that Deathwings only have two options in their missions, success or death. So, by that logic, Sonia should not be at the factory if she is beaten in Akuwa town. 

 

We know that the Sonia in Akuwa town and the Sonia in the factory are the same because they both have the same Pokémon, a Scizor, Clawitzer, and most notably a mega Steelix. So, does anyone know if a different deathwing, with different Pokémon, replaces her in the factory sidequest if Sonia was beaten earlier? I thought it would be an interesting small detail to see if there was any difference and the Wiki does not seem to point to any differences at the moment.