[First-timer to Reborn- and I enjoyed it a lot]

15 hours ago, Candy said:

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whoa that was really nice thank you. :OO I didn't know that was a thing, that's a neat coding thing going on.

 

I agree with you about the characters-- some feel more developed than others -- but I think that's largely due to the screen time they've had; Cain and charlotte for example, were all pretty early, but some others were kind of latergame and you have to find sidequests for them instead of meeting them in the story to find out about them as far as I can tell, so I think that explains some of it. Nevertheless, I was always pretty excited to find out more, even about the villains I detested, haha!

 

That kind of feeling of curiosity is just really good and that kept me playing it. Your favorites are good favorites!! I think my favorites are Shelley, Cain, Charlotte, Taka, and Laura. I liked a lot of them though, so it's actually incredibly hard to pick, especially if you factor in different reasons for liking them.

 

I took a look around Team Showcases (Thank you, btw! I wasn't sure if that was indeed where playthrus were!), and yeah, I'm definitely gonna have to spend a while reading some of these.

 

7 hours ago, kithas said:

I like to say Reborn is very immersive. There is something with the atmosphere or the city and the characters that feels like you could actually be walking around some ward looking for the next quest. And I really dig that. 

Absolutely! I have to say  I agree there too; that's the feeling I had, even when i had to look up where to go because I'd just plumb forgotten thanks to sleeping or such (which thankfully didn't happen much, weirdly). Quite a few areas - basically any new area - gave me that feeling, and even some events, with factoring in pronoun changes and stuff, helped a lot. It's really impressive how much work went into making even static things change a bit.

[Fairy Moves for Jigglypuff line]

At level 11, Jigglypuff (not Igglybuff!) learns Disarming Voice (40 base attack, which is kind of piddly compared to other things); you could use common candies to level it down so it levels up to 11 after you've evolved it, and that Disarming Voice - unfortunately the only move for it that's fairy - will probably have to carry you as far as it can.

 

Wigglytuff also learns "Play Rough" at.... an indeterminate level. I think it's when it evolves, but I can't be sure; but you can teach it, once it's a wigglytuff, regardless of how late its level is, Play Rough, at the move relearner for a heart scale!

 

 

 

[Books with stories like Reborn/Rejuvenation]

I'm not sure how good of a recommendation it'll be -- I don't read many book series-es these days anymore, unfortunately -- but here's some books with sort of similiar things, but they're also "kids' novels" (that kinda deal with things like a lot of what Reborn/rejuvenation do?? weirdly). It's kind of hard to go into detail about stuff without either spoiling things or basically summarizing them. Feel free to disregard my suggestions if they're too out there or kiddy for you!

 

 

-Warriors, by Erin Hunter (the first two series at least; I haven't read the further ones yet)

This is the (in)famous line of books about talking cats who fight each other. In seriousness, it's a pretty good read for the most part-- I've heard bad things about the later series in it, but I've yet to read them and judge them.

 

What I do know of the first 2 series I've read in it are pretty full of intrigue and ~*Drama*~. There's cats betraying each other, full-scale mutinies, hurt feelings, delusions, secrets and all of that sort of thing. I enjoyed them a lot, though it being cats could also be a little offputting; YMMV. It goes into detail about blood and stuff, including death screams and such, so be warned of that.

 

-A Series of Unfortunate Events by Lemony Snicket

This one is a little more comedic - it doesn't take itself seriously, but it also does? it's a weird feeling - and it's very much about dealing with depression and grief and having to figure out things in life. It constntly talks about how unhappy it is and asks you to stop reading it, and it can come off a little "pretentious" sometimes, but I found myself enjoying it a lot, especially as a kid. I'm cluding it here, because it does go over things, and is wierdly a little more postivite.

 

-Animorphs, by K.A. Applegate

This one is the closest to Reborn/Rejuvenation as far as I can tell; there's a lot of darker themes in it, including betrayal, deserters, etc; it has a real sense of morality and mortality in it. It has a lot of world-conquest stuff in it sort of similiar to reborn again, but it's... a lot more subtle than Reborn's is. Like, in a terrifying way. I haven't read any of them for a long time, but I remember there's a lot of them and some of them kind of frightened me. Same as Warriors; it goes into detail about blood and stuff.

Of note, when I read these books I have that kind of feeling of I have to keep reading to figure out what happens, and what's going to happen to these characters, especially ones I get attached to, and that's what reborn/rejuvenation did/is doing for me(respectively), so maybe it'll work for you.

[First-timer to Reborn- and I enjoyed it a lot]

@Candy (is that how you ping?? I'm new to forums with ping abilities)

 

Edginess is definitely there! Reborn is... mm, very edgy, I'd say - but not in a bad way - it's just, YMMV for lots of different people. different people like it, some don't, etc., it's all valid \o/

 

i'm jus personally a fan of hte kind of edginess it had, particularly how deep it got with the story and whatnot; it felt "tragic" in a lot of places and I tend to like tragic stories/characters/things like that so it was basically a perfect fit, especially since it was very respectful of a lot of things addressed, which's always nice.

 

The comedy also had me laughing hard, haha, I didn't go over that much in my review, but, I remember a few times my ribs hurt so bad a hour later from how hard I'd laughed; cain moments were some of the biggest ones for that, and Charlotte was great for that as well-- it was a really good balance imo, not sudden, non-gradual shifts from "oh you're sad now" to "haha funny!" to "oh you're sad again," it was more slow and sometimes tried to lighten moods with jokes like real people do, and it felt a lot more human and interesting in terms of the balance of mood (comedy versus darker moments) which I really appreciated.

 

Thank you for the welcome too! \o/ I actually made this just to post this review and thank people for the work they did on mods I had used to help myself play it, but I'm probably going to end up sticking around - at least, for a time - to try and hang out.

 

I've definitely already been poking around, and seeing others' experience of the game and reading their playthroughs has been really fun, and I only just started that too!

[[Spoilers] E18 GYM PUZZLE GUIDE]

Thank you so much for this thread.

 

I'm deaf, so this was impossible for me, but I googled "e18 gym puzzle solution pokemon reborn" and this thread popped up; thank you so much for being willing to post this

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see it was dec 2018 last posted. Apologies!

[First-timer to Reborn- and I enjoyed it a lot]

-I tried to find the proper area for this, but this is the general thread for the Reborn Game converation as far as I could tell, so if this would go elsewhere, I apologize in advance!

 

-Hi! so, uhm, this might be sort of long! I'll try to keep it more succicnct though. I'll try to summarize up parts of it - this is basically a review - under readmores ("spoilers"). I'm pretty bad at categorizing things though, so please excuse me if something would fit better someplace else re: the categories! I'm also not very good at articulating things, so I apologize if anything's confusing; if  something is, just paste it at me in a spoiler and I'll correct it.

 

First off, I got into it, and started playing it a few days ago - I'm not sure when, time's hard for me to keep track of, particularly with my insomnia - but I kind of... Got... Super hooked? so I've been playing it nonstop, and I just finished the last chapter (no spoilers here, no worries, just mentioning). The most spoilers are re: an earlier chapter (where you meet Anna), which iirc is one of the first few chapters you play anyway, but if that's an issue, let me know and I'll edit out the spoilers and names and whatnot.

 

Writing

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I really adore the writing - the characters are very lovable and fun to get to know, and even the villains - "assholes," as you would say - have character to them. Like, in the "I love to hate them" kind of way. I hate some of the characters, but it's in a good way if that makes sense; I like how strongly this game made me feel about even the villains or the Rival or such. And not to say nothing of of the plot hooks (oh my lord! all these chapters! I was just bingeing the hell out of them, I got that excited to see more)! The "good" characters are also great, and I really appreciated quite a few things about them.

 

Regardless of being based of real-life people (nonficitonal), as I'd read, the issues presented were very respectfully treated- especially the "mental hospital/asylum"-slash-orphanage. That one is one I've seen very cliched in a lot of horror movies (And I watch a lot of them!) so I'm very hyper-aware of how awful that sort of thing can be, so I was a little worried when I got to that area in the game, but I kept playing because I was curious, and I'm glad. It's one of the more postitive represntations of  a lot of mental illnesses I've seen, and they're not villanized for that. I really adored Anna, for example.

 

But the writing also drew me in a lot; I felt invested as a player, and I felt good about how a lot of story stuff went. It's a very well done story, and it may slip in some places - this is hearsay though; I certainly didn't notice that myself. It felt like Pokemon but more Mature, proper, and respectful of a lot of issues, and I really appreciated that; it felt sort of like the manga, but also... more fulfilling, since it was "me" (or your character, in general), moreso than the manga; it felt more personal and involved, and I really liked that.

 

Player Agency goes over this a bit as well.

 

 

Player Agency

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I like the pokemon events - they make me feel pretty good about myself. I'm helping a lot of pokemon, or trying to catch them, and it opens a lot of character ""roleplaying"" potential (I say roleplaying in double quotations because i'm not actually roleplaying, it's more of just how I view my character being?).

 

The choices in the game also contribute a lot to this sort of feeling; like I'm actually the main character, with agency of my own, making choices, deciding what to do. I've seen people have issue that the other characters seem to do more than you - though to be fair, this is sourced mostly from reading the tvtropes page - but I didn't have that issue at all; it felt a lot more like I was integrated in it, actually being engaged, actually being a part of it - and I wasn't the only one, the only one who *could* do things. Other npcs were there to help, and that helped me form more bonds.

 

Choices with the npcs was a big part in contributing to this. There's a lot of trades, and things, you can do - this is kind of going into mechanics, but it's really nice that stuff changes sometimes depending on what you do and, sometimes, even what you don't do. There were a lot of surprises due to my agency, and I often found myself second-guessing my choices and if I wanted to go ahead with this choice... or not... It was a lot of fun, and I found myself saving very often before anytime I thought was a event at all, no matter how minor, so I could try and explore each bit. And I still missed a lot! I'm definitely going to go back and try and replay it again to experience things again.

 

 

Game Difficulty

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This is one I had a bit of a harder time with; I'm a very casual player. I had a very hard time with battles, and I actually had to ask my friend who's very deep into competitive for ideas on teams to help beat things. Big thanks to the Sandbox mod for helping me out too, as I had only wanted to experience the story.

 

But it was also fun, despite the frustration - I felt an immense sense of pride even though I had used sandbox to help myself, because I was largely using pokemon I had gotten from other places; I just used sandbox to help ev train for the most part, and get movesets to help.

 

I started having issues very early on, and as said, I'm very casual, so that's more of an fault of me than on the game. The game itself, with mechanics, is very balanced - there's a way to beat everything. You just have to keep trying; it's *hard*, sure! but it's *possible* and it's not *cheating*. Thankfully, Reborn makes sure to avoid legendary battles for the most part, so that's a lot less aggravating than in some areas (thanks, battle tower, in most pokemon games.)

 

Some battles even had very fun themes or gimmicks that added a lot to the other categories, but I can't go very much in-depth on these without spoiling some.

 

 

Design & Visuals (And some Mechanics, too!)

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A lot of areas are simply, to put it, breath-takingly gorgeous. Field effects add a lot of gorgeous scenery, and change things in the areas. I can't fathom how difficult that had to be to figure out how to code, moreless to make sure it all worked properly.

 

I enjoyed seeing everything, and I can't fathom how a lot of these events were to have to do! I've tried to peek into rpg maker oftentimes, but I always get daunted by the scripting (scripting is not my strong suit), so more props there to the devs.

 

The characters are fun designs, all are very easy to tell apart - which helps a lot in some cutscenes - and I enjoyed a lot of the cinematic work that went on. It seemed very well put together, and even mechanics involved, as mentioned before, helped.

 

I have a big place in my heart for visuals and designs , since that's an particular area of interest for me.

 

I liked a lot of the areas; they felt very new and fresh from the usual pokemon formula, and I was very surprised when I would walk into one place to find it was so... much different than I'd expected, and the field effects (mentioned again, oops), helped lend to that feeling of a lot of things. Even just little bits of writing helped sell the atmsophere of places ("there's a cihll in the air...", etc), and it added so much to the enjoyment of these areas. The area I found the most boring was the main town, and that's saying something, since I still found it a lot of fun to run around, especially with all of the different Wards, exploring and seeing everything and marveling at how well put together it was.

 

 

Final Note - not under an cut

 

-In summary, I really like pokemon reborn y'all.

 

I actually cried - a lot - playing it because it was just so gorgeous, and a lot of things hit me pretty hard, especially dealing with a lot of the issues that are addressed in it. Some crying was postivite, and some wasn't, but the matter of the fact is, Reborn made me feel emotions so deep, and i'm so glad I gave it a try.

 

It may be "edgy", and it may be "too dark" for some people - and that's fine; people have preferences, and some can't handle "dark" and "edgy", and that is entirely valid and respectable - but sometimes, it's also carthartic and helpful for other people, or more engaging.

 

Thank you to everyone who worked on this game, and who had some part in its creation in some way; it's only been a short time (120-140 hours logged for me) but i really enjoyed it and will continue to enjoy it.