- It's a less frustrating status to deal with, and also allows representation of a feature from a newer game.
Problems with voting frostbite:
- Balance wise, Frostbite as a status will be severely hampered by the pre-existing balance around freeze. For example, there is no scald or will-o-wisp equivalent for it. This leaves little room for its consistency or utility.
- We don't know the full extent of what'll happen when taking the national dex into account with this change- especially since PLA is a Pokemon sidegame with limited trainer encounters, overhauled battle mechanics, and a lack of PvP. This mechanic also has little exposure, which may confuse newer players.
- Will set a precedent of not adding, but replacing old mechanics with sidegame features against cartridge outline. May become problematic later on.
- Now, this one I don't have solid evidence for (as I haven't committed to a full playthrough of Arceus yet), but I'd assume Freeze and Sleep were removed from PLA for the sake of sparing up time. Both of those require custom model/animation changes which isn't an issue in a RSE styled fangame. While I agree that Freeze is a highly annoying status ailment which throws its effect under loops and hoops of RNG, Frostbite in any case doesn't appear to do much better in the favor of balance. Special burn is not something that takes a lot of time to think of- it is also not what ice types need, and even if it was, chances are it'll instead shift usage to a random water type that gets access to a reliable way to inflict it.
From what we know of so far, I would instead wait until Gen 9 to reconsider this topic.
-For your first point against it... I don't see how this is made out to be an issue when they have introduced quite a few brand new moves such as Slash and Burn and Magma Drift. Creating a Will-o-wisp clone for Frostbite wouldn't really be an issue.
-Again, National dex shouldn't really be a concern. Moves that can freeze get turned into Frostbite. I haven't had the chance to play PLA yet, but if there are any new moves that inflict Frostbite, I don't think picking which mons do and don't get access to this move is TOO time consuming.
-While yes, by definition this does create a 'precedent.' It's not like this is going to become a common occurrence. There aren't really many features to replace to begin with. If anything, Rejuvenation has already done the OPPOSITE of this by not adding Dynamax. Meanwhile, turning any G-Max forms into new megas with potentially new abilities and stat spreads.
-Animations? What animations? Freeze "anim" is them not moving while a block of ice appears over them for a second. Sleep "anim" is them closing their eyes. Which, considering the fact that pokemon can blink, this means no new "animations" or textures need to be made for sleep animations.
Bringing Frostbite into the mix would not only be a breath of fresh air, but it's a more interesting and experience-enhancing concept than not being able to do anything for an indeterminate amount of turns. It's not fun losing to RNG. Frostbite, while is obviously still inflicted with RNG elements, isn't as dependent on it as Freeze is. Frostbite can introduce new Pokemon as being viable in the game that otherwise wouldn't have been without access to it. New strategies to be made. Sure, conceptually it's nothing groundbreaking, but neither was freeze to begin with. I imagine toying around with Frostbite would be a lot more fun than occasionally getting that one Freeze off every now and then.
Risk taking can be an important component while game developing. When it comes to Freeze vs Frostbite, I think it's a pretty safe feature to take a gamble on.
Frostbite in Rejuvenation? Y/N?
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-For your first point against it... I don't see how this is made out to be an issue when they have introduced quite a few brand new moves such as Slash and Burn and Magma Drift. Creating a Will-o-wisp clone for Frostbite wouldn't really be an issue.
-Again, National dex shouldn't really be a concern. Moves that can freeze get turned into Frostbite. I haven't had the chance to play PLA yet, but if there are any new moves that inflict Frostbite, I don't think picking which mons do and don't get access to this move is TOO time consuming.
-While yes, by definition this does create a 'precedent.' It's not like this is going to become a common occurrence. There aren't really many features to replace to begin with. If anything, Rejuvenation has already done the OPPOSITE of this by not adding Dynamax. Meanwhile, turning any G-Max forms into new megas with potentially new abilities and stat spreads.
-Animations? What animations? Freeze "anim" is them not moving while a block of ice appears over them for a second. Sleep "anim" is them closing their eyes. Which, considering the fact that pokemon can blink, this means no new "animations" or textures need to be made for sleep animations.
Bringing Frostbite into the mix would not only be a breath of fresh air, but it's a more interesting and experience-enhancing concept than not being able to do anything for an indeterminate amount of turns. It's not fun losing to RNG. Frostbite, while is obviously still inflicted with RNG elements, isn't as dependent on it as Freeze is. Frostbite can introduce new Pokemon as being viable in the game that otherwise wouldn't have been without access to it. New strategies to be made. Sure, conceptually it's nothing groundbreaking, but neither was freeze to begin with. I imagine toying around with Frostbite would be a lot more fun than occasionally getting that one Freeze off every now and then.
Risk taking can be an important component while game developing. When it comes to Freeze vs Frostbite, I think it's a pretty safe feature to take a gamble on.