[How much power does Karma actually have? *spoilers*]

even in Paragon, Karma is messing with you

[Aevian forms you'd like to see]

On 4/30/2024 at 3:58 AM, Pigeot said:

Scrafty, but is Dark/Dragon, has significantly less base stat on bulk, but has Contrary ability and learns Close Combat and Clanging Scales.
Now you have Shell Smash Shuckle that deals damage.

Still dies by Fairies looking funny so it's balanced.

[Aevian forms you'd like to see]

 

On 4/27/2024 at 8:05 AM, dudeguyman said:

Any Fairy/Fire for my mono-Fairy runs. It's the only way to stop the Ferrothorns in my nightmares!

Definitely Fire/Fairy, now who to insult with such a form xD

 

Vulpix/Ninetails, Ponyta/Rapidash, Alcremie like in Empire? Flareon for the lolz?

 

[How much power does Karma actually have? *spoilers*]

9 hours ago, dudeguyman said:

I'm getting conflicting messages on this.

On one end I'm drawn to think that Karma is extremely powerful:

•  It created a Paradox Gear in the ruined timeline
• It straight-up transformed Talon into a monster in the Renegade timeline
• There's the mystery of what's behind the Team Lorem Ipsum quest in the Paragon timeline, whatever it is it's extremely powerful, and Karma was definitely involved (was it Venam or Aelita? Either way, one of them "heard a familiar voice" before the raid started, but she was out of screen when that happened, so, the presence of Karma's eye cannot be confirmed)
• It REWRITES the Nightmare Remix battle into the regular Evil Gardevoir battle. (But Nightmare Remix is a NG+ bonus, this might be non-canon)

On the other, I think that Karma is rather weak or limited:

• Karma hasn't been shown to be able to make anyone do whatever at any moment, but it needs slowly corrupt people over time, Talon even managed to tank several days of Karma's influence until he snapped and went after MC
• Karma might be able to only influence a limited amount of people at any given time, otherwise why would it corrupt one person at a time instead of trying to overwhelm Renegade MC with numbers? That numbers also is more than one: Karma influences both Alexandra and MC at the same time in the train to GDC

But, all the arguments for Karma being weak might just be Karma trying to play 5D chess.

There's also another detail: even if Karma might be be able to bring back people from the dead, Renegade MC doesn't kill people normally, but uses End of Night which erases its target across the entirety of space and time. Which is stronger, Karma or End of Night?

 

I just figured if Karma could be capable of bring people back from being Obliterated, it negates Renegadeceptor's trump card, then it could also create more Rift forms. I think it's just toying around atm, studying to see what it could do next time around. It was Aelita btw who heard Karma at the end:

(7:46)

 

We're not the first interceptors, and the worlds been reset before, so its dealt with Renegades before. Again, didn't make myself clear above, I think it will restore a few deleted people like Amber or Talon, make people remember them and realize what you did and then Karma will more explicitly rub it in your face. The fact it hasn't probably is just it letting you think you can outplay it, or as you said, 5D chess, like "Oh, this Aussie came after me, and I just deleted him (and possibly his friend)", when in reality, its biding its time waiting for the moment you can't afford to screw up to throw down the gauntlet.

 

Curious if this is what the team has in mind, feel they have somewhat of an idea. Also, what day was the Team Lorem Ipsum quest on? Gonna rewatch it now.

[[POTENTIAL SPOILERS] Rejuvenation Fanworks Thread]

On 4/16/2024 at 10:22 PM, MoonPaw said:

been playing this game for 2 weeks straight, finally started doodling stuff now that ive caught up with it lol

 

here's my interceptor, Kiddo :]

 

sorry to miss your post, love your work, you’re my hero!

[[POTENTIAL SPOILERS] Rejuvenation Fanworks Thread]

From Reddit, MoonPaw_17

[[POTENTIAL SPOILERS] Rejuvenation Fanworks Thread]

Found this on twitter, not sure if they posted here, but look at their work (https://twitter.com/codenameAL)

[[POTENTIAL SPOILERS] Rejuvenation Fanworks Thread]

2 hours ago, Drayce said:

We need some M2 art fr. Her M5 design is especially adorable.

second that, next best girl (Aelita’s first and then Erin) needs some love here

[Is there any difference in how you reach Renegade? (Spoilers?)]

Gotcha, just was curious if Venam during the final battle would have reacted differently if you were legit renegade being an ass to everyone vs Paragon gone Renegade is all.

 

Appreciate it Glitched

[Is there any difference in how you reach Renegade? (Spoilers?)]

Curious, I did Paragon with debug variable 700 set to 100, so I was nice and helpful until I started backstabbing with the most vile interceptor there is(does this look like the face of mercy?)

 

curious if everyone reacts differently if you played renegade legitly instead of cheating to achieve it?

 

thanks in advance 

[End of 13.5 Paragon (Potential Spoilers)]

Facts, plus she reminded them of what they just forgot

 

no idea why they forgot or why she claimed she lied rather than just remind them of what was learned

[PC Gender]

You are aware 

Spoiler

Everyone sees you differently right? You look like Aevis to you, while someone else sees Aria, Aero or Alain

so don’t worry about it

[Who’d want a post game replay mode?]

For those who want to replay a scenario or chapter all over again (or even trying another route, like renegade with your paragon or vice versa), you go to sleep in your room in GDC and instead of the nightmare realm, you get a menu stating which chapter or specific scenario.

 

This would have no affect on your gameplay, so if you wanna be a dick to people or choose a bad outcome (handing over the time gem, not saving Garbador or Amber, etc..), its all but a dream.

 

Obviously exp gain, buying/selling items, catching new mons (unless plot specific), and whatnot would be disabled, but you could also use it to test out alternative teams or strategies, or fight your favorite boss again.

 

Just throwing it out there, Id like to replay the nightmare school (specifically our nightmare) and renegade, just hate I gotta replay from scratch and dont know how to pull up specific old saves, so figure heres an update item or something to consider for v14

[One more attempt to figure out Madame X identity [Spoilers, obviously]]

Look what I just stumbled across

*First of all, have to clarify it's a commission, so not official, and to be fair, also have to provide the link for it. 

Thing was, at the time, I just found it and shared it, so as I stated to Zumi before, wasn't personal or nothing, just sharing what I had stumbled across

[Anyone have a Debug for Pokemon Empire]

Bump

[When would Renegade end?]

2 hours ago, Lucifer Morningstar said:

As I have gathered the Renegade route won't have a postgame for the obvious reason that its plot will conclude with the world decimated and as such, I can see it not having an Elite 8 since the league and champion won't matter in a doomed world but it should nonetheless be able to remain at pace with Paragon until the main plot ending. 

 

There are still quite a few factors for it to work with such as Aleita's rise as Karma's chosen hero to take the protag down, M2 and the protag's whole allegiance with Clear and Kieren. 

 

Ha. As I see it, Renegade---or hell perhaps even Paragon, the Rejuv plot in general, should be the most legit situation to use Debug a fangame has ever created since we're the interceptor, intervening with fate and isn't resetting the world kind of debugging? 

 

I don't mean to indorse Debug, I just find it kind of amusingly ironic. 

 

I loved it in the end, irony fit like a glove; being friendly to everyone only to plan their demise, especially Talon, Florin and Amber

 

I can't wait for v14, see everyone else's face when its time to backstab em

[[POTENTIAL SPOILERS] Rejuvenation Fanworks Thread]

Need more M2 artwork now, shes the best girl next to Aelita

[How much power does Karma actually have? *spoilers*]

We know it picks people to go after you in Renegade and can corrupt them, but what if it’s saving its trump card in bringing back the deleted?

 

I just think if you can find and restore a deleted file, what’s stopping it from playing tic-for-tac with the Renegadeceptor and then upping the ante one way or another? Just a random shower thought, but imagine the curve balls thrown with Karma pulling someone back at random and someone else joining in, see the wrath of Tesla if Amber is restored for example, then your "Family" disowns you and hits you hard, like lvl 100's vs your 90s.

sure someone on the team will glean some ideas from this

[Pokedex guy at the lab]

Side note, is there anyone who still evaluates the dex?

[Renegade route]

 

hijacking for a min to state I officially joined the dark side

[When would Renegade end?]

Gotcha, makes perfect sense. Can't wait to get there, watched the let's plays and wanna experience it myself

[When would Renegade end?]

My bad, meant v16.

 

Just got back into the game being busy, got the terminology mixed up.

 

feels wrong using debug to achieve Renegade, also using Smiley (Ariana) of all the characters to achieve it, though it is what it is.

[[POTENTIAL SPOILERS] Rejuvenation Fanworks Thread]

What, no renegade route pics?

[When would Renegade end?]

Since it entails the end of the world, I dont see it realistically lasting all 16 chapters, even though we know it probably could.

 

as I trudge through Terajama (Resort), Im pondering said question.

 

just a for fun discussion, see where it goes and who’s the first to get deleted besides Aelita

[Pokedex guy at the lab]

2 hours ago, SoulN7 said:

It's removed, his rewards were moved in the "mid game", specifically Terajuma.

 

Where in Terajuma, choom?