@BRS swag Thanks! Well, I am kinda the bug junkie of the forums, so I just had to use bugs. You sound like a forretress kind of guy! Both tanky and shares the bug typing.. Eh, actually all I did with swadloon was protect to stall out one turn of sun and bug bite to eat the oran berry, so vulpix doesn't heal. My Vivillon actually killed it with stun spore and psybeams! I wanted to play desolation in ages,but I was wondering if I would get past Connor and vejyr fire cave with only early bugs. But going pretty well, I am just after my first battle vs Scarlett, and only battle I had to try many ti