ArcanaShift 0 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's not really an issue, but whatever. Just wanted to point out that most of the times, for some reason, Charge Beam increases my Sp. Attack twice instead of once. Link to post Share on other sites
MetalKing1417 0 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 A lot of attacks seem to have a similar problem. Mud Slap for example. Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 in 10.5 you cannot actually see which stat change and how much Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Amethyst 2466 Posted January 23, 2014 Administrators Share Posted January 23, 2014 The reupload fixed that ^ ...by breaking it in a different way, listed in the first post. Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 If you change sprites to the new ones, then try to ride tauros while already on one, it will change you back to the original sprite. Link to post Share on other sites
MetalKing1417 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Based on experience I think the problem is that each time a pokemon uses a damaging attack, the calculations for the chances of a secondary effect are done twice. Hence charge beam sometimes raising sp. atk by 1 or 2, Acid Spray Lowering sp. def harshly twice and the chances of getting flinch are excellent from bite and headbut. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoDarklight 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I don't know why, but my instinct is telling me that the double calculations might also be related to the HP glitch- looking at what they have in common may reveal the true culprit. Mind you, this is baseless speculation, but I can't shake the feeling that they may be related somehow. Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Amethyst 2466 Posted January 23, 2014 Administrators Share Posted January 23, 2014 No, it's only displaying the message twice. This is a side effect of how Contrary was implemented. Link to post Share on other sites
MetalKing1417 0 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Really? Because the message stops displaying after the third drop with acid spray (i.e the second use) and the damage increase seems consistent with it too. Though, since I am not the programmer, the latter may well just be in my head. One question- how does the implementation of contrary cause this? Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Amethyst 2466 Posted January 23, 2014 Administrators Share Posted January 23, 2014 ...Oh? Hm... Thanks for noticing that. I'll look into it. So, when Contrary was added, there's a couple different steps. Firstly, the actual effect, but the follow-up to that is the message saying, X's Contrary raised its #whatever. However, we had to include a trigger to remove the message part of saying that the stat dropped, otherwise it would be like X's Attack fell! X's Contrary raised its Attack! So an extra condition was scripted it that when contrary was triggered, a variable would be passed on letting the system know not to display that message. The way we had to do it, however, was kind of messy, and there was some risk of it interfering with other things. The scripter noted in the code, "if this causes problems, revert this change", so when this became a problem, at his behest, I did indeed revert the change. Which I guess now makes everything display twice? So we have to find a new solution Link to post Share on other sites
ty_taurus 17 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 While you're talking about Contrary... Fern's Snivy is broken (the bad kind) because of it. His strategy with Snivy is to use Growth a lot so he destroys his own Pokemon's stats... I know most trainer Pokemon don't have set genders and skills but while it makes fighting him easier, I don't think that's the goal you were looking for. Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Amethyst 2466 Posted January 24, 2014 Administrators Share Posted January 24, 2014 whoops 2used to contrary not working i guess ty! Link to post Share on other sites
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