Kotayo 0 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 when in the place with all the caged pokémon in the factory i put the loudred in one of the bottom left cages then had jigglypuff sing and made the abra fall asleep....the loudred now seems to be too far away from the abra to wake it up and i can't move any of the pokémon forcing me to reset the game (luckily i saved in that room before this happened so not that much time lost) even though i'm able to fix it by resetting it kinda causes a bit of panic Edit: i also can't seem to get the guard to fall asleep or anything like that and he just stops me from having the other pokémon doing anything all the time Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 0 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Try putting jigglypuff in front of the cage door to the right and loudred in the top left corner. Link to post Share on other sites
Kotayo 0 Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 well then...i tried that....but what do i do if the guard doesn't go to sleep? which he refuses to do Link to post Share on other sites
Kotayo 0 Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 i figured out how to do it, but the thing where abra doesn't wake up if loudred is in one of the bottom two cages should still be fixed in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites
Kev 0 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 i figured out how to do it, but the thing where abra doesn't wake up if loudred is in one of the bottom two cages should still be fixed in my opinion Yea I reckon its just a bug, lucky for me I didn't have to go through that. Ask Ame to fix it if no one else has and she may put it in the next release. Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyBR 0 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I don't think it was a bug as Ame would have had to intentionally put in a max range for Loudred's screech I would think. You can make it so the guard doesn't wake up ever. There's more than one way to position the Pokemon and solve the puzzle. Link to post Share on other sites
Kotayo 0 Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 yes, but you can also make it so the abra won't ever wake up by putting loudred in one of the two bottom cages then putting the abra to sleep Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Ikaru 107 Posted July 8, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 8, 2013 It's not necessarily a bug, no, but it's a problem if there's a chance it makes the puzzle unsolvable. Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Amethyst 2466 Posted July 8, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 8, 2013 If this is incorrect, please correct me, but my current understanding is: Loudred, when in the bottom two cages, will wake-up Abra as long as the player has not already cleared that factory as a whole. After the player has done so, it will no longer wake up Abra. It always should, but I messed up the sequencing, so after the factory is cleared the puzzle goes dead. That is an error on my part and has been fixed for the next episode. However, as it is currently, because that only exists after the factory is cleared, it's impossible to get stuck down there before you break the cell open. Link to post Share on other sites
Kotayo 0 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 If this is incorrect, please correct me, but my current understanding is: Loudred, when in the bottom two cages, will wake-up Abra as long as the player has not already cleared that factory as a whole. After the player has done so, it will no longer wake up Abra. It always should, but I messed up the sequencing, so after the factory is cleared the puzzle goes dead. That is an error on my part and has been fixed for the next episode. However, as it is currently, because that only exists after the factory is cleared, it's impossible to get stuck down there before you break the cell open. Loudred, when in one of the bottom two cages, will NOT wake up abra even if the player has not already cleared the factory, thus making it impossible to get out (atleast in my case) so it is possible to get stuck down there, and if by any chance this would happen to someone and they would panic and save to see if restarting the game would work...well starting over completely isn't very fun :/ Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Amethyst 2466 Posted July 9, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2013 As the conditionals previously were, it should work if, and this shouldn't be necessary but that's the error, the person pre-completed factory with loudred in the bottom cage went Loudred-Jigglypuff-Loudred-Abra In short, because I derped, ONLY when Loudred is in those bottom cages, Abra wakes up only when the guard does. Which means he has to be asleep first. And which means he has to be there to be asleep. So in that situation it still should be possible to get out... Link to post Share on other sites
Kotayo 0 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 when i did it i was completely clueless as to how to do this puzzle... i put loudred in one of the bottom cages - did NOT have loudred make me go deaf - had jigglypuff sing, making me go asleep as well as the abra and the guard - i wake up - the guard has now woken up - talk to the loudred to wake the abra up - the guard is awake by default and the abra does NOT wake up - i'm now stuck in the puzzle as i have no way to wake the abra up to move around any more pokemon if you do it in this order you get stuck and IF you save at this point when the abra is now permanently asleep, then you can't reset to the last save to fix it Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Amethyst 2466 Posted July 9, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2013 Right, which is why I say, go Loudred-Jigglypuff-Loudred-Abra That'll put the guard to sleep without you going to sleep, so that Loudred can wake him and Abra up Or just wait for the next episode :x Which won't be toooo long Link to post Share on other sites
Kotayo 0 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 i have gotten past the factory a while ago (i reset the save after getting the problems i have described) however the issue still remains at the cages IF loudred is put into one of the bottom cages and u make the jigglypuff sing without being deafened by loudred, all possibilities of waking abra up goes away now imagine IF this would happen to someone and he would save after this has happened, then he's now stuck here and there's also the chance that the player hasn't saved for a few hours, then when forced to reset he has to re-do all of those hours or save and wait for an updated version of the game where this has been fixed (which could take a while? idk how frequently the episodes has been released) the main point is: if u have loudred positioned in one of the bottom two cages - don't have the loudred make u go deaf - make jigglypuff sing this will now have only the abra be asleep but you and the guard are both awake. the loudred now being positioned in one of the bottom two cages will not wake the abra up and you're stuck the likeliness of this happening still seems pretty small as i seem to be the first it has happened to (?) but it should still be fixed if u ask me Link to post Share on other sites
Kotayo 0 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 wow i just realized what you were probably talking about get the bug where abra won't wake up - have loudred make u go deaf - make jigglypuff sing now the guard is asleep and loudred now being programmed to wake up abra no matter what cage he is in, will break the bug correct me if i'm wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
Administrators Amethyst 2466 Posted July 9, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2013 Yep! But anyway, it doesn't matter all that much since it is fixed for the next release. Link to post Share on other sites
Kotayo 0 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 problem solved then Link to post Share on other sites
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