[E16 SPOILERS] Anna and Noel Hypothesis

[Ice Cream Sand Witch 1650]

Note that this hypothesis is entirely based on E16 dialogue, and not a general theory that people often speculate about such as their parents' identities or Anna's league position. Everything under the spoilers involves E16, so if you haven't played it and don't want to be spoiled, I recommend not opening the spoiler box below. 

 

 

If Hardy or Cain is spoken to in E16, they'll mention that Anna and Noel are missing. Hardy says someone saw them exit the city, and Cain says Anna said Nostra wanted to show her something.

 

In the desert, there's a place called the Mirage Tower. An NPC in the new city talks about it IIRC, and it can also be seen on the Reborn map that Ame drew before Reborn was made into a game (Ame said that map is outdated, but I assume that mostly means the placements and not that some areas were axed). IIRC, the Mirage Tower was talked about by the NPC in the same way that Emerald's Mirage Tower worked, where sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not. This sounds mysterious, and Anna is a character with many mysteries surrounding her. Could the Mirage Tower be what Nostra wanted to show Anna? 

 

[Farnsworth 75]

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There is in fact a NPC that talks about the Mirage tower, he says "I hear other trainers can see an old tower, but I've never seen it personally". I'm not so sure about the connection of the tower with the twins, Calcenon is a long way from the desert, so unless one them have a pokemon that can fly or teleport they would never make it there (especially since the station wasn't open until now). That being said, I do think there's a possibility that Anna will show us the tower, just not very likely. The only thing connecting Anna to the tower is that they are both 'mysterious', which isn't much imo (especially since there are a lot of other mysterious characters like Shade and Radomus). Knowing Ame the tower will probably have a super strong event pokemon, but it'll only have a 1/128 chance of spawning each day, so good luck getting that Magikarp.

 

I read some speculation regarding Nostra finding a way through the barrier at Labradorra, and I could see that happening. We still have to find a way around it and Anna could have figured something out. This would mean we would either encounter the twins at the end of E17 or E18, to prepare for the siege at Labradorra. I could see us and the twins infiltrating Labradorra to find a way to deactivate the barrier (most likely defeating a PULSE Mr. Mime) so that the other gym leaders can get in and attack Meteor.

 

[Ice Cream Sand Witch 1650]

 

Those are good points, and that idea makes more sense than mine. It was probably too much to call this a theory with mystery being the only connection (although if it's involved with the story and not just a side location for an event Pokemon, I do think it's likely a mysterious person like Anna or Radomus will be involved), so I'll edit the title to hypothesis. 

[Farnsworth 75]

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I agree that the tower probably will have a very big importance story wise. The NPC mention the tower being "old" so it could have a connection the the gemstones and the old Reborn (before the city). We could be going to a place similar to the Citae D'Arc, maybe we'll find out more about the significance of the gemstones and the 'meteor' that fell in Reborn City. If that's the case I could see us having an encounter with either Solaris or El in the tower, especially if we look at the teaser (it mentions the "New World" that both El and Solaris talk a lot about). And considering we haven't seen the latter since 7th street I'm inclined to think that El will have something to do with the tower (also he is the only Meteor Admin other than Lin that still poses any real threat).

 

If that is indeed the case, then most likely Radomus would be involved in some way. I had a theory that El would be the main villain of the next episode and that Bennett would follow him to the desert. And there we would team up with Radomus, Gardevoir, Serra and maybe Luna to somehow guard the tower (or whatever power it holds) from Team Meteor. Most of my theory is flimsy at best, but it does make some sort of sense to have these characters all appear in the next episode (that or I'm really desperate to see some more of them).

 

[Swampellow 116]

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Iirc Hardy mentions that the twins went west out of the city and, to my knowledge at least, the only thing actually west of Calcenon is that massive rock climb wall. Now like I said, this is just to my knowledge, so maybe people who have actually looked into the game code or something can refute this, but maybe the twins somehow went up there to wherever that leads?

 

[BIGJRA 133]

15 minutes ago, Swampellow said:

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Iirc Hardy mentions that the twins went west out of the city and, to my knowledge at least, the only thing actually west of Calcenon is that massive rock climb wall. Now like I said, this is just to my knowledge, so maybe people who have actually looked into the game code or something can refute this, but maybe the twins somehow went up there to wherever that leads?

 

East, it was east, right? Like, they go out onto Route 4, to the EAST of Calcenon City to look at them. My theory is the "abandoned workshop" or whatever from the OG map is up past that rock climb wall, and THAT'S where Anna was suddenly inclined to go. ...That said, I think that will be somehow the conclusion to the Agate City saga, aka Pulse Darkrai/Amoonguss/Parasect/Smeargle/Hypno is up there. Since it seems like desert is E17, we might not yet see Anna and Noel again until E18 which is 80% gonna be Agate and Labradorra.

[Farnsworth 75]

2 minutes ago, BIGJRA said:

 

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East, it was east, right? Like, they go out onto Route 4, to the EAST of Calcenon City to look at them. My theory is the "abandoned workshop" or whatever from the OG map is up past that rock climb wall, and THAT'S where Anna was suddenly inclined to go. ...That said, I think that will be somehow the conclusion to the Agate City saga, aka Pulse Darkrai/Amoonguss/Parasect/Smeargle/Hypno is up there. Since it seems like desert is E17, we might not yet see Anna and Noel again until E18 which is 80% gonna be Agate and Labradorra.

 

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Episode 18 is 0% gonna be Agate AND Labradorra. There is no way we are getting both cities in the same episode, it's just too much work. We will either get Agate or Labradorra, but unless we have a wait similar to E16, we won't get both. Although I do think it's possible that Anna went to the suspicious house, since like you said it is east to Calcenon (though they would have to traverse the mountains). 

 

[Swampellow 116]

3 minutes ago, BIGJRA said:

 

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East, it was east, right? Like, they go out onto Route 4, to the EAST of Calcenon City to look at them. My theory is the "abandoned workshop" or whatever from the OG map is up past that rock climb wall, and THAT'S where Anna was suddenly inclined to go. ...That said, I think that will be somehow the conclusion to the Agate City saga, aka Pulse Darkrai/Amoonguss/Parasect/Smeargle/Hypno is up there. Since it seems like desert is E17, we might not yet see Anna and Noel again until E18 which is 80% gonna be Agate and Labradorra.

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If it was east, woops, I didn't feel like actually going back to check.

 

Although it would make sense if we were not to see them until E18, which is also when we will probably get Rock Climb and finally be able to get that TM at Apophyll. 

 

[BIGJRA 133]

3 minutes ago, Farnsworth said:

 

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Episode 18 is 0% gonna be Agate AND Labradorra. There is no way we are getting both cities in the same episode, it's just too much work. We will either get Agate or Labradorra, but unless we have a wait similar to E16, we won't get both. Although I do think it's possible that Anna went to the suspicious house, since like you said it is east to Calcenon (though they would have to traverse the mountains). 

 

 

I'm not too sure about that theory, considering I mean the map of Agate City is already fully done. Not that this discussion is consequential but since E19 is the last one, it tacks on all of the events of Labradorra City with the Pokemon League and beyond and the postgame all to one episode. We've had multiple gym leaders an episode before (and since there's what, 4 gyms left and 3 episodes left, there has to be again), so it's not completely 0% as you suggest.

[Ice Cream Sand Witch 1650]

12 minutes ago, BIGJRA said:

 

I'm not too sure about that theory, considering I mean the map of Agate City is already fully done. Not that this discussion is consequential but since E19 is the last one, it tacks on all of the events of Labradorra City with the Pokemon League and beyond and the postgame all to one episode. We've had multiple gym leaders an episode before (and since there's what, 4 gyms left and 3 episodes left, there has to be again), so it's not completely 0% as you suggest.

We've had one gym per episode aside from the upcoming exception (which I assume will be E17 with Titania and Amaria being the two leaders).

 

E1= Julia, E2= Florinia, E3 = Corey, E4 = Shelly, E5 = Shade, E6 = Kiki, E7 = Aya, E8 = Serra, E9 = Noel, E10 = Radomus, E11 = Luna, E12 = Samson, E13 = Charlotte, E14 = Terra, E15 = Ciel, E16 =

Adrienn

[pyrromanis 70]

On the server we had a very interesting discussion about the whole plot of Reborn and we reached the conclusion that Nostra plays a key part on what is going on in Reborn! My theory is that Anna with Nostra are taking their final places for when the whole plot will be revealed

[Egzample 50]

Maybe Jirachi doll somehow links Anna and real Jirachi, living somewhere in the mountains, and Anna went out to find him and make a wish or two? I wanna big money, big house, and when I grow up, big I think we may agree that this event forecasts conclusion of a story, or major event, that will happen somwhere in E18, and will be caused by Nostra. If last episode is last leader+victory road+e4+champion fight+postgame, I guess E18 plot will contain some huge conclusions. So, E17 - desert + agate (Hardy in Agate, allowing us rock climb), E18 - rock climbing to find kids and get behind the barrier, and E19 as above. Agate may fell into E18, depends on ammount of content we find in Agate and Labradorra, but Agate should be rather ready to implement, or close to it, since we already were there - shortly, tough. We may also get access to rock climb at the beggining of E18, we still got Amaria unused and not chained to any city, and her badge may unlock rock climb, not Hardy`s, this leaves place to a lot of possibilities.

 

5 hours ago, pyrromanis said:

On the server we had a very interesting discussion about the whole plot of Reborn and we reached the conclusion that Nostra plays a key part on what is going on in Reborn! My theory is that Anna with Nostra are taking their final places for when the whole plot will be revealed

 

Dont forget about Jirachi`s role in Ms Direction fortune-telling, it is rather confirmed that Nostra will participate in some major turning point.

[Farnsworth 75]

On 12/14/2016 at 10:58 AM, example said:

Maybe Jirachi doll somehow links Anna and real Jirachi, living somewhere in the mountains, and Anna went out to find him and make a wish or two? I wanna big money, big house, and when I grow up, big I think we may agree that this event forecasts conclusion of a story, or major event, that will happen somwhere in E18, and will be caused by Nostra. If last episode is last leader+victory road+e4+champion fight+postgame, I guess E18 plot will contain some huge conclusions. So, E17 - desert + agate (Hardy in Agate, allowing us rock climb), E18 - rock climbing to find kids and get behind the barrier, and E19 as above. Agate may fell into E18, depends on ammount of content we find in Agate and Labradorra, but Agate should be rather ready to implement, or close to it, since we already were there - shortly, tough. We may also get access to rock climb at the beggining of E18, we still got Amaria unused and not chained to any city, and her badge may unlock rock climb, not Hardy`s, this leaves place to a lot of possibilities.

 

 

Dont forget about Jirachi`s role in Ms Direction fortune-telling, it is rather confirmed that Nostra will participate in some major turning point.

 

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If you read the Ms Direction thing you should know that the Jirachi doll, ie Nostra, IS a real Jirachi. At the moment it is sleeping though, I wonder when Nostra will awaken.

 

[Egzample 50]

21 minutes ago, Farnsworth said:

 

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If you read the Ms Direction thing you should know that the Jirachi doll, ie Nostra, IS a real Jirachi. At the moment it is sleeping though, I wonder when Nostra will awaken.

 

And I dont think we shouldn`t take everything from Ms Direction literally. Besides, she may swap doll for real Jirachi at any given moment, who knows, maybe she will do so in some mountains, where Jirachi usually sleeps? Whatever, details like this dont matter, especially when it is obvious sooner or later Anna will use Jirachi. Anyway, I think that kids are rather going to show us the way past barrier...

[Kircheis 1]

Cain and Hardy said both went to the east, but Hardy lost them. Going straight east from the town leads to a rock climb cliff, so my thoughts are that they went that way somehow(perhaps Anna has rock climb?), and we'll be able to find them later there.

[dotahkin01 15]

guys, this theorycrafting.....

 

maybe they found some interesting pokemon that they followed or an ice cream truck that can totally be trusted. 

[Tapu Fufu 21]

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I read some speculation regarding Nostra finding a way through the barrier at Labradorra, and I could see that happening. We still have to find a way around it and Anna could have figured something out. This would mean we would either encounter the twins at the end of E17 or E18, to prepare for the siege at Labradorra. I could see us and the twins infiltrating Labradorra to find a way to deactivate the barrier (most likely defeating a PULSE Mr. Mime) so that the other gym leaders can get in and attack Meteor.

 

We should just take that PULSE machine from Ametrine, hook up a Hariyama to it and give that barrier a good Brick Break. Beat Team Meteor at their own game!  

[Strider 30]

3 minutes ago, Tapu Fufu said:

We should just take that PULSE machine from Ametrine, hook up a Hariyama to it and give that barrier a good Brick Break. Beat Team Meteor at their own game!  

That would be really cruel to the Hariyama...I think there's a better way.

[Farnsworth 75]

On 12/14/2016 at 5:40 PM, Strider said:

That would be really cruel to the Hariyama...I think there's a better way.

 

How about hook up a PULSE Wormadam Sand to the machine instead, then we can dig under the barrier. And it's okay since nobody cares about Wormadam.  

[Tapu Fufu 21]

1 hour ago, Farnsworth said:

 

How about hook up a PULSE Wormadam Sand to the machine instead, then we can dig under the barrier. And it's okay since nobody cares about Wormadam.  

The magical barrier probably extends underground, too, otherwise somebody would've already done it.

[WujiKyurem 24]

On December 13, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Ice Cream Sand Witch said:

 

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In the desert, there's a place called the Mirage Tower. An NPC in the new city talks about it IIRC, and it can also be seen on the Reborn map that Ame drew before Reborn was made into a game (Ame said that map is outdated, but I assume that mostly means the placements and not that some areas were axed). IIRC, the Mirage Tower was talked about by the NPC in the same way that Emerald's Mirage Tower worked, where sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not. This sounds mysterious, and Anna is a character with many mysteries surrounding her. Could the Mirage Tower be what Nostra wanted to show Anna? 

 

 

This is 100% unrelated, but if the BGM for Mirage Tower is Glitch's Temporal Tower mix, my life will be made.

[dragonza11 12]

 

is it maybe possible that ms. direction's predictiontells us about the events ep 17?

just think about it, she tels us if we weren't there all the events would still happen, the salvation of jasper and berryl, the restoration of the city, by a man with spiked bracelets (maybe cain), she also says an azure hair re-dyeded red (water gym leader, forgot her name tried to kill herself on the waterfall) and shining armor (titania)

but what if she means is that in that world were we aren't there reborn would be destroyed again, maybe even beyond repair, and it is us who are the ones who can stop it.

she tells us about "the sleeping star invokes a wish", what if that wish is that the world would return several months back and that there was a person that can rescue reborn (that would be us) and that jirachi wants to reveal this to anna and noel.

 

it wont fit in the story but it would make sense.
 

 

[Ice Cream Sand Witch 1650]

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is it maybe possible that ms. direction's predictiontells us about the events ep 17?

just think about it, she tels us if we weren't there all the events would still happen, the salvation of jasper and berryl, the restoration of the city, by a man with spiked bracelets (maybe cain), she also says an azure hair re-dyeded red (water gym leader, forgot her name tried to kill herself on the waterfall) and shining armor (titania)

but what if she means is that in that world were we aren't there reborn would be destroyed again, maybe even beyond repair, and it is us who are the ones who can stop it.

she tells us about "the sleeping star invokes a wish", what if that wish is that the world would return several months back and that there was a person that can rescue reborn (that would be us) and that jirachi wants to reveal this to anna and noel.

 

it wont fit in the story but it would make sense.
 

 

The most common idea about the man with spiked bracelets is Arclight, IIRC. I don't think Cain has any bracelets, or at least none that I see on his sprite. 

The Water leader's name is Amaria, but most people think azure hair re-dyed red refers to Cal. Cal's natural hair is blue and he dyed it red in opposition to his brother (prophecy also mentions bad blood IIRC which may refer to Cal and Blake's sibling problems), and then went back to his natural azure color after he stopped trying to prove himself to Blake. This part of the prophecy also doesn't specifically mention a she (though the taciturn woman part does). Shining armor wasn't mentioned in the prophecy. 

[dragonza11 12]

1 minute ago, Ice Cream Sand Witch said:

The most common idea about the man with spiked bracelets is Arclight, IIRC. I don't think Cain has any bracelets, or at least none that I see on his sprite. 

The Water leader's name is Amaria, but most people think azure hair re-dyed red refers to Cal. Cal's natural hair is blue and he dyed it red in opposition to his brother (prophecy also mentions bad blood IIRC which may refer to Cal and Blake's sibling problems), and then went back to his natural azure color after he stopped trying to prove himself to Blake. This part of the prophecy also doesn't specifically mention a she (though the taciturn woman part does). Shining armor wasn't mentioned in the prophecy. 

 

I totally forgot about cal and blake

 

and are you sure about the shining armor, because mine had that

[Wolfox 2093]

I have a theory of my own on anna and noel.

 

I have stated this in the past and I stick with it. I believe Radomus Vanhanen is the father of Anna and her Brother. if that is correct perhaps radomus took anna and noel to a saver place