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[E18 Spoilers]Relationship Variable Guide [DISCONTINUED]


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During E16's beta testing period, I went through in RPG Maker and noted down all of the relationship points.    A few things of note:   1. The game will not tell you when something

These are the relationship points organized by character. E18 spoilers for: Cain, Victoria, Florinia, Noel, Samson, Charlotte, Ciel, Adrienn, Titania, Hardy, Bennett, Eve, Lumi. Points with asterisks

I'm just gonna leave the ones that I found in a quick search, I may have missed some and I'm not going to check if there are new ones in past episodes since I don't have that much free time. Spoilers

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What does the "Talk to Laura while she's on the ground" one mean, exactly? I've just seen the bit where she falls, but I wasn't able to talk to her during that. . . does it mean something else?

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13 hours ago, Ashka said:

What does the "Talk to Laura while she's on the ground" one mean, exactly? I've just seen the bit where she falls, but I wasn't able to talk to her during that. . . does it mean something else?

Maybe it only happens depending on who's kindnapped? It happened to me when Laura was kindnapped (original playthrough), but not when the twins were (second playthrough). 

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1 hour ago, Ice Cream Sand Witch said:

Maybe it only happens depending on who's kindnapped? It happened to me when Laura was kindnapped (original playthrough), but not when the twins were (second playthrough). 

 

Do different people get kidnapped on different playthroughs?

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19 minutes ago, HongaarseBeer97 said:

Do different people get kidnapped on different playthroughs?

Depending on the decision you make at Yureyu to either battle Sigmund or Sirius, and then the decision to make at the Belrose house (go upstairs or downstairs if you battle Sirius at Belrose, or stop the doctor or Sirius), a different character or set of characters will be kidnapped. Possibilities:

-Laura

-Charlotte and Shelly

-Saphira

-Noel and Anna

 

On my second playthrough I intentionally went with the twins being kidnapped because it's the only route where you don't lose relationship points with any characters just for the situation turning out like it does.

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3 hours ago, Ice Cream Sand Witch said:

Depending on the decision you make at Yureyu to either battle Sigmund or Sirius, and then the decision to make at the Belrose house (go upstairs or downstairs if you battle Sirius at Belrose, or stop the doctor or Sirius), a different character or set of characters will be kidnapped. Possibilities:

-Laura

-Charlotte and Shelly

-Saphira

-Noel and Anna

 

On my second playthrough I intentionally went with the twins being kidnapped because it's the only route where you don't lose relationship points with any characters just for the situation turning out like it does.

Thank you very much ICSW, I didn't know that :)

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6 hours ago, Ice Cream Sand Witch said:

Maybe it only happens depending on who's kindnapped? It happened to me when Laura was kindnapped (original playthrough), but not when the twins were (second playthrough). 

 

Your stickied post says that it happens when Saphira is abducted, which she has been in my playthrough. That's why I'm confused.

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16 minutes ago, Ashka said:

 

Your stickied post says that it happens when Saphira is abducted, which she has been in my playthrough. That's why I'm confused.

I just double checked in RPG Maker and it is supposed to happen then.

 

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I have a short question here. I came back to E15 after defeating Ciel to collect some department stickers I missed and then returned to E16. Would my relationship points be lost because of that operation? I'm just not sure. Thanks.

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33 minutes ago, AZ@Reborn said:

I have a short question here. I came back to E15 after defeating Ciel to collect some department stickers I missed and then returned to E16. Would my relationship points be lost because of that operation? I'm just not sure. Thanks.

I don't think your relationship points will be lost...but I'm not a PRG Maker expertise, @Ice Cream Sand Witch probably knows about that.

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6 hours ago, AZ@Reborn said:

I have a short question here. I came back to E15 after defeating Ciel to collect some department stickers I missed and then returned to E16. Would my relationship points be lost because of that operation? I'm just not sure. Thanks.

I'm not sure, but since you wouldn't lose any other E16 progress once you go back to E16, I'd guess your points won't be lost. 

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The points that are addressed to Lumi and Eve as separate characters in my eyes signal the possibility of seeing them again as separate characters, or re-merged somehow, with or without Zero.

 

I could not have been happier! :D 

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@GS BALL Somebody had found out  that if you say yes when Amaria asks if you trust her the point wont be added and i think Ame said it will be fixed for episode 17, as for Victoria i dont really know.

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10 minutes ago, GS BALL said:

Using RPG-Maker XP and Debug mode, in a new play... At the point of Azurine Island first time visit to find Cain... Victoria is at +5 with me instead of +4. In the guide, it says "Lose to Kiki = -2"; could it be "Defeat Kiki first time = +2" or something, instead of +1 that this guide says?

 

And even though i certainly told Amaria that i trust her in the factory visit, my points with her is at 0.

 

How can i solve these issues?

The above poster is correct about the point with Amaria. This thread explains the issue: http://www.rebornevo.com/forum/index.php?/topic/29486-relationship-variable-modifier-errors/

 

I just checked Kiki's battle and you get +1. My best guess is that I either miscounted on another point or missed one entirely. 

 

While I'm here, an advance note: without going into detail, some of E17's variables are difficult for me to find because of something that I chose not to do earlier in the game. Currently I'm requesting help from other testers who have done what I didn't do, and it's possible the guide will not be fully updated in time for E17's community release. I'll update with what I have, but if I think I'm missing some, I'll make note of that. 

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@SHIA II I actually didn't really understand what it meant when I put together the guide, I just saw that was a control switch related to those points. But according to this thread, if you lose to the Steelix, you gain access to a PC in the depths.

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@VulpesDraconis Thanks for letting me know. I didn't have that point in the guide, but I added it just now. I mainly checked story events and longer sidequests and didn't check other NPCs very often, so that's probably why I missed this point. 

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I played both paths myself, initially the zekrom path. The Reshiram path was fun till some time with Taka till he dies, then, all hell breaks loose on Amaria and she acts unreasonably with you. So sad that my fav character did that to me. Reshiram path might be nice with getting a pair to walk with in the tiring deserts, but, I still say hide the bitter truth and go for ideals if the truth creates mere insanity. Be happy to myself and the Zekrom path people, even if you got way less story content.

Open only if you are done with E17

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36 minutes ago, phoenica said:

I think you can get up to 4 points by talking to Aya when she is following you:

 

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Added. Aya seems to be the only one who was changed to do this. I guess it's to make up for the two points you lose automatically when she's kidnapped by Sirius.

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