interdiction Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Spoiler How did everyone fare against the Forgotten Prince? I lacked counters to many of their Pokemon and my team is somewhat unoptimized (Heracross, Magnezone, underleveled Torterra, Skarmory, Serperior, and Talonflame - I bought Magnezone purely to have a second Sturdy mon ) with mostly scattered EVs), so a lot of the battle came down to constantly reviving my Pokemon and chipping in damage. Their Mega was actually one of their least threatening pokemon for me - Torterra Crest is busted (if what I seemed to infer, it turned all weaknesses into resistances) and I bought grass rather than water/ice coverage so things like Nidoqueen and Gliscor were rough. I don't know if I could have broken through a Poison Heal Gliscor at all. And Excadrill is what it says on the tin. Probably one of the hardest for me yet, but I think someone with better coverage and EVs or a larger rotation could better counter their team. It may have taken one attempt, but many revival herbs, which I don't consider a clean victory, compared to things like easy sweeps (back in V10) of the Puppet Masters with Calm Mind Beheeyem. This is all on Normal. I imagine good old Lando-T is around on Intense if they still put legendaries on Intense teams (V11 removed many of them, but Adam still got one).  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, interdiction said:  Hide contents How did everyone fare against the Forgotten Prince? I lacked counters to many of their Pokemon and my team is somewhat unoptimized (Heracross, Magnezone, underleveled Torterra, Skarmory, Serperior, and Talonflame - I bought Magnezone purely to have a second Sturdy mon ) with mostly scattered EVs), so a lot of the battle came down to constantly reviving my Pokemon and chipping in damage. Their Mega was actually one of their least threatening pokemon for me - Torterra Crest is busted (if what I seemed to infer, it turned all weaknesses into resistances) and I bought grass rather than water/ice coverage so things like Nidoqueen and Gliscor were rough. I don't know if I could have broken through a Poison Heal Gliscor at all. And Excadrill is what it says on the tin. Probably one of the hardest for me yet, but I think someone with better coverage and EVs or a larger rotation could better counter their team. It may have taken one attempt, but many revival herbs, which I don't consider a clean victory, compared to things like easy sweeps (back in V10) of the Puppet Masters with Calm Mind Beheeyem. This is all on Normal. I imagine good old Lando-T is around on Intense if they still put legendaries on Intense teams (V11 removed many of them, but Adam still got one).  Spoiler From what i can tell however, the Torterra Crest i think inversed the Type Matchups for Torterra so what is weak is strong and what is strong is weak  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interdiction Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, Lord Drakyle said:  Hide contents From what i can tell however, the Torterra Crest i think inversed the Type Matchups for Torterra so what is weak is strong and what is strong is weak  Spoiler I suspected that, but apparently Electric immunity remains, so I didn't bother to try more. That makes it less ridiculous, though obviously still quite beneficial for it.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Zephyr Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Spoiler  "Can we win this in 15 minutes?" "Well, it's gonna take me 15 minutes just to wear down their gliscor, so... Nope!" -Me, going into my third attempt  Honestly, I wasn't expecting to be dealing with a Ground specialist going into the fight, so I wandered in with four pokemon that were weak to it, and wound up only seeing of the team the first two tries as a result. The third try naturally came after mucking about in my boxes trying to come up with ways to at least mitigate some of the disadvantages, and came to the (surprisingly correct) conclusion that a Crested relicanth would do decently well against the gliscor and camerupt with a little bit of Burn support. I... really need to work on getting an actual rotation going at this point, apparently.  Torterra was a matter of baiting it into using Wood Hammer to put itself into mid-low yellow range, then using its Crest against it with Accelerock before it could be healed (I took the time to run a test- torterra keeps its immunity to Electric), and the excadrill went much the same way, just with a Shadow Sneak to finish the deed instead.  Well, claydol's kinda bugged into not doing anything, which I assume is an error on its Crest's part. I'm not gonna complain about getting an unexpected moment to catch my breath, but that really oughta be patched up at some point.  Despite the fact that I had to take a very stally and resource consuming approach to the fight, it was honestly kinda fun. The psudo-Inverse battle halfway through was quite the curious twist, and Desert's Mark added an interesting dynamic that seems quite unusual among Gym Leaders' signature moves- heck, the gliscor even managed to use it to avoid a Revelation Dance during my second run! Oh, and of course the fact that I wound up using a friggin' relicanth of all things as a sort of clutch unit is a testament to both the unusual ways you can take advantage of the battle situation (getting a Sp. Def. buff from the Sandstorm by default, or the Desert Field after a Desert's Mark is pretty nice) and the effectiveness of the Crest system at letting you use pokemon you otherwise wouldn't have.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheist Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Spoiler  It was so easy compared to all the trick room stuff and even those security drones gave me more trouble. I had no idea it was even a gym battle until they just gave me a badge later on. For the battle I just used the team I had on me and my Diggersby OHKO-ed the mega Camerupt. I think I killed the Torterra with 2 flash cannons after noticing that it resisted my ice moves for some reason. Gliscor definitely just died to ice beam. I think Excadrill died to EQ from Swampert after failing to kill it first. Nidoqueen maybe ice beam? It's obvious from the fact that I can't even remember all his mons that I didn't have much trouble with the fight. Meanwhile I can tell you exactly how my 30 battles again Nim went. I lost twice to hydro pump misses on the Solrock thing and then I just got pissed and won with calm mind Sylveon which just tanks everything and stalls out trick room. After that it was a sweep.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 8 hours ago, interdiction said:  Hide contents I suspected that, but apparently Electric immunity remains, so I didn't bother to try more. That makes it less ridiculous, though obviously still quite beneficial for it.  Spoiler no i mean i literally hit the thing with a Ground move and it was super effective or something, hold on i'm sure i picked up Torterra's crest so ill check the effect EDIT: https://gyazo.com/959c9289a1d5bf1a334c1bd483747623 yeah so it apparantly swaps resistances and weaknesses but not immunities  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphaverb Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Spoiler i'm doing a mono elctric type intense run and that battle was pure pain. Only won cause i had 2 sturdy mons and unlimited max revival herbs. Claydol not attacking also helped to some degree. I think i struggled most with crest torterra.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryoSparks Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Probably the easiest gym leader so far that I didn't change their native field (Amber - Bounce and Blizzard, Souta - Smack Down xD). I came in not expecting a Gym Battle actually but I OHKO'd most of his team except for that Torterra, which took me 2 more tries before realizing it had a crest and inverse effects. After that it was pretty meh, I expected more from the ground type honestly. And Megarupt was sorely disappointing because it didn't outspeed half my team which weren't speedsters in any regard, thus allowing me an easy kill.  Nim and the double battle with the red hair after was more troublesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illumi Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 On Intense, there was no Gliscor, and the Mega was different, but the except for Torterra, the seeded Krookodile was biggest threat. +1 speed is enough for it to outspeed 90% of available mons, and Moxie is a problem too. Had to retry like 3 times before I got him down. And if people wonder, on intense his mega is Steelix. And no legendary mon sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince&Sylveon Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I wonder what their levels are. Normal difficulty used to have their Ace Pokemon on par with the level cap. Adam breaks the tradition by having a Lv83 Ace. I’m guessing that Torterra on normal might be level 86-88. And intense might be 90-91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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