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I am not the Cop, nor am I mafia. I don’t know for certain what role Ame is, but she can’t be the person who visited Amber.

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atm i dont believe ame is maf.

 

therefore, i'll vote to

 

[Eliminate] Jace

 

since they haven't been voted for. 

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also cicada, i dont believe you are telling the truth.

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I don’t really want to explicitly state my role, but I believe I’ve softclaimed with words, since there’s still a possibility of a Coyote being around. I just really hope that you can believe me just this once. You can lynch me tomorrow if I’m wrong.

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Posted (edited)

so what I've gathered from the posts are

 

1. I should get another gun tonight

2. I'm not very good at scum reading in forum settings

3. I'm gonna shoot someone I find suspicious anyway

 

also remember that one member of the mafia is a fabricator, probably meaning they don't have a saboteur since that would be redundant and weird

 

anyway give me my gun tonight and ill shoot a mafia

 

a drug dealers promise is as good as a boy scouts

Edited by Nano4
give me a gun

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Someone listened to you before and you shot a random townie, Nano...

 

Since you know about the possibility of a fabricator, why are you outwardly stating that you’d use the gun? That’s what the mafia want.

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I'm pretty sure there isn't a coyote in this setup since nano didn't lose his vest.

Purp, are you the cop or the doctor?

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2 minutes ago, andracass said:

I'm pretty sure there isn't a coyote in this setup since nano didn't lose his vest.

Purp, are you the cop or the doctor?

Why are you pressing her so much? You're basically telling mafia to kill her.

 

Nicki can be 4 roles rn.

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If we leave Ame alive, it's practically guaranteed that they'll kill her tonight.

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But why should we leave ame alive? Niki has already made it clear that ame's lying.

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6 minutes ago, cicada said:

Someone listened to you before and you shot a random townie, Nano...

 

Since you know about the possibility of a fabricator, why are you outwardly stating that you’d use the gun? That’s what the mafia want.

I have a vest, of course I'd use the gun, I won't die from a malfunction

 

also pretty sure I can shoot a mafia this time, I went 2 for 2 in princess mafia, why not 1 for 1 now?

 

 

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I'm still reasonably sure that ame's not lying and that something's weird about purp's softclaim, though this is such a mess that I'm not completely sure.

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That’s probably what they want, Nano. If there is a Coyote, they’re probably waiting for that vest to disappear. I just don’t want you to be targetted.

 

I don’t want to explicitly state my role just yet.

 

Ame has all the reason to lie, especially if she has an experienced mafia team backing her up. She might have been tailored (because I think they can tailor roles that are already dead, too), which would make me look bad if she flips town. If that scenario happens, and I survive the next day (possibly resulting in a free lynch for mafia), I’ll hardclaim then. I don’t see reason to hardclaim right now, but I’ve already stated that Ame can’t be telling the truth.

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9 minutes ago, cicada said:

Ame has all the reason to lie, especially if she has an experienced mafia team backing her up. She might have been tailored (because I think they can tailor roles that are already dead, too), which would make me look bad if she flips town. If that scenario happens, and I survive the next day (possibly resulting in a free lynch for mafia), I’ll hardclaim then. I don’t see reason to hardclaim right now, but I’ve already stated that Ame can’t be telling the truth.

If this happens, it'll mean that we're facing an astoundingly highly coordinated mafia team. And this can really tell us who we should lynch next.

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If a player were to get multiple Guns, they would have "Gun A" "Gun B" and so on, ordered randomly. The player would say "I use Gun A"

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probably ominous, but can a player choose to shoot their self?

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You... could. Real or Fake, it would always kill.

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So in an attempt to clarify my position, this is the chain of events that I'm pushing:

N0: Mafia kills L'Belle. Vigilante kills no one. Alistair copies Ame.
D1: Alistair is lynched and dies displaying Ame's role (vigilante).

N1: Ame targets and kills Amber who then explodes; mafia targets ame; doctor protects ame and both kills fail. No other visits succeed on Amber.

 

This is the only way that Amber can be the bomb and be killed without having anyone die (though it can be generalized so that the doctor only has to protect the person targeting the bomb, whether mafia or vigilante- Ame being the vigilante is still largely an assumption on my part).

 

This would be the other chain of events:

N0: Mafia kill fails. Vigilante kills L'Belle.

D1: Alistair is lynched.

N1: Amber is killed by the mafia. Nicki visits Amber. Neither visitor dies.

(and, presumably)

D2: Ame is lynched and shows up as a tailored role.

 

The issue I see with this is that two people would have to have false roles- both Amber and Ame. Amber would have to be the actress and Ame would have to be tailored here, but if this is the case then a mafia member would have to have died last night. Thus either the mafia killed one of their own last night or this situation doesn't make sense.

 

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u-um.. just to clarify, this whole time i thought the tailor role was a role that could be used each night.. is it a one time use role??

i wouldn't have known, since this is the first time i've played with this kind of role... i'm sorry if this is a stupid or obvious question..

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........fuck that's a good point.

Does the tailored suit last the whole game? If it doesn't, then the second chain of events I've described still wouldn't work.

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Suits are infinite and last forever.

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But is it a single use role or a repeat use role?

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Repeatable. Infinite.

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....yikes okay that's going to make this incredibly messy.

I guess then it's still possible for the second line of events to happen, but tailoring someone to be the bomb seems a little weird to me...

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7 minutes ago, andracass said:

So in an attempt to clarify my position, this is the chain of events that I'm pushing:

N0: Mafia kills L'Belle. Vigilante kills no one. Alistair copies Ame.
D1: Alistair is lynched and dies displaying Ame's role (vigilante).

N1: Ame targets and kills Amber who then explodes; mafia targets ame; doctor protects ame and both kills fail. No other visits succeed on Amber.

 

This is the only way that Amber can be the bomb and be killed without having anyone die (though it can be generalized so that the doctor only has to protect the person targeting the bomb, whether mafia or vigilante- Ame being the vigilante is still largely an assumption on my part).

 

This would be the other chain of events:

N0: Mafia kill fails. Vigilante kills L'Belle.

D1: Alistair is lynched.

N1: Amber is killed by the mafia. Nicki visits Amber. Neither visitor dies.

(and, presumably)

D2: Ame is lynched and shows up as a tailored role.

 

The issue I see with this is that two people would have to have false roles- both Amber and Ame. Amber would have to be the actress and Ame would have to be tailored here, but if this is the case then a mafia member would have to have died last night. Thus either the mafia killed one of their own last night or this situation doesn't make sense.

 

 

Therefore:

Situation 1 implies Nicki is lying.

Situation 2 implies Alistair randomkilled in N0 and maf failed. I fins it hard to believe...

 

Just now, Bazaro said:

Repeatable. Infinite.

This is absurd. They could tailor each and every one of us. We would never know whether we've killed a maf or not, or whether townies were telling the truth or not...

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