Starborn

Oh, sorry.

Too add on to this, anyone who wants to have the male player character paired with another boy would also have the same limited options. Edit: come to think of it how old is the player character anyway? are Zetta and Geara even around their age? Dr. Jenkel likely isn't so... :/

I assume you’re stuck on the second moving statue puzzle?

Yeah, I mostly suggested the pharaohs because I like to tied things together with a theme but maybe they might be more suited to be characters for the lore of the region, like the two brothers backstory for Unova. I think the champion having a pharaoh theme is probably best bet for a currnet day character in my opinion. Also Dio for post game bonus boss

That sounds like a great idea, maybe you could have gym leaders based off ancient pharaohs and elite four members based of Egyptian gods? or maybe have them all themed after the gods, for more vartion variation in designs? Prehaps like how Hoenn has lots of water types, this region has lots of ground types because of how much of it is desert and wild water types only show up at oasis like locations. I'm not sure what to choose for starters though expect maybe Shinx because it's a little like a Sphinx?

Yeah I see you point, I was mostly focusing on fleshing out his character to make him likeable and sympathetic so when the Team Xen moment came around it would be more of a gut punch because you’d care about Ren instead of being completely done with him as many players seem to be after the whole Goldenleaf section, but changing that section in the way I did takes away what little reason, as petty and stupid as it is, for Ren to join them. Thinking more on it I would probably take Ren’s betrayal out of the story entirely or rewrite Team Xen to be more morally ambiguous, however the idea of Geara’s being a sort of foil to Ren is an incredibly intriguing one especially if it went both ways with Ren seeing himself in Geara as well. All that aside I really enjoy hearing your thoughts on Rejuvenations story, it’s what really got me thinking about putting my thoughts about Ren and his role in the story down in the first place, your alternate take on Madelis was fantastic and I can’t wait to hear you opinions on future characters.

I’ve thought about that as well, but I don’t know if that would really save Ren character for some people, depending on how that possible red herring twist is pulled off, they might just come away thinking that Ren is even more inconsistent and poorly developed or that he’s even stupider for not telling anyone that he was doing this and letting them think he’d actually betrayed them. Of course there might be a intended reaction to Ren that Jan might be going for, either he is so desperate to be relevant in some way, that if he can’t be a hero then he’ll be a villain or he’ll make things more complicated then they need to be in order to be a hero, hurting his friends deeply in the process, which I’ll admit with some polish could be a interesting way to take his character.

I just posted this over on Commander's Rejuvenation run but I might as well post it here too, so here it is: Honestly I think It’s kind of a shame that the story goes this route with Ren because I feel that it really didn’t need to. This 100% my own opinion and feel free to point out any holes in this but here’s how I would have done this: Before you get to the entrance of Goldenleaf you encounter Ren pacing up and down, muttering to himself like he’s trying to psych himself up, then he notices you standing there after a brief conversation he challenges you to a battle to test his strength as trainer and/or ease off the tension he’s feeling. When you win, Ren is frustrated with himself but decides that he can’t overcome his own weakness if he keeps running from his problems and goes ahead to Goldenleaf anyway. Upon reaching the entrance, the fence blocking it is already up with both you and Ren locked out, a member of the town then comes out and basically tells you both to fuck off, Ren tries to convince them to lower the fence and they tell him that he’s not one of them anymore, he said so himself, so now to them he’s the same thing you are, an outsider, trash and then they leave. Now Ren has a reason bring up Venam’s ability to melt the fence and you meet him at the sewers to find her. So everything in the next part of the story is the same except Ren is there and at some point during or after this part, Ren opens up to you and tells about Goldenleaf, how he hated how the people acted and one day he just lost it, calling out the whole town at a big meeting or some other town gathering and as a result he was chased out. He originally planned to never go back, but after Melia ‘died’ Ren felt that the only way he could really get stronger was to find a way to change Goldenleaf. Now when getting to the Goldenleaf plot itself, unless it turns out that Mosely is super important to the plot later on, I’d cut her from the story and replace her with Ren, I don’t know how much Goldenleaf has changed from V8 to V9 but there’s a scene at the start of Goldenleaf that would be pretty impactful if it was Ren in Mosely’s place, if it’s not there anymore then have scene with a group of town members just beating the utter shit out of him. After you fight them off, Ren tells you how he was pretty much overwhelmed by them the moment he stepped into Goldenleaf, he is disheartened because now he’s realised how in over his head he was, two options appear, one is ‘stay silent, the other is ‘offer to help’, this is a relationship variable choice, you’ll gain +1 relationship with Ren if you offer to help but you don’t lose points for staying silent. Regardless what you choose, Ren goes to the Pokémon Centre to heal his team, from there you don’t see him again until the point you’d normally see Mosely again, he takes her role in the story and everything is the same up until you about to fight the Goldenleaf Gym Leader. Now you can either choose to ‘fight alone’ or ‘fight with Ren’, choosing to fight alone and you’ll battle the Gym Leader in a 1v1 fight, choosing to fight with Ren and it you and Ren vs the Gym Leader in a doubles battled and you gain another +1 to relationship with him. After the Goldenleaf plot wraps up you’ll have one last conversion with Ren, while he’ll admit to being upset that he couldn’t accomplish his goal by himself but he’ll also be genuinely thankful for your help and for what you did for Goldenleaf. The scene with Crescent still happens and Ren still joins Team Xen but now instead of it being the scene that cements Ren status as a poorly written character, it would become a shocking moment that would make the player wonder just what Crescent could have possibly said or done to him, that he’d join the people responsible for Melia ‘death’. So yeah that just about sums up how I would have of written Ren’s character, granted the game isn’t finished yet and everything I’ve wrote might clash with something later on, but thought I’d throw my two cents in to the whole Ren thing.

Honestly I think It’s kind of a shame that the story goes this route with Ren because I feel that it really didn’t need to. This 100% my own opinion and feel free to point out any holes in this but here’s how I would have done this: Before you get to the entrance of Goldenleaf you encounter Ren pacing up and down, muttering to himself like he’s trying to psych himself up, then he notices you standing there after a brief conversation he challenges you to a battle to test his strength as trainer and/or ease off the tension he’s feeling. When you win, Ren is frustrated with himself but decides that he can’t overcome his own weakness if he keeps running from his problems and goes ahead to Goldenleaf anyway. Upon reaching the entrance, the fence blocking it is already up with both you and Ren locked out, a member of the town then comes out and basically tells you both to fuck off, Ren tries to convince them to lower the fence and they tell him that he’s not one of them anymore, he said so himself, so now to them he’s the same thing you are, an outsider, trash and then they leave. Now Ren has a reason bring up Venam’s ability to melt the fence and you meet him at the sewers to find her. So everything in the next part of the story is the same except Ren is there and at some point during or after this part, Ren opens up to you and tells about Goldenleaf, how he hated how the people acted and one day he just lost it, calling out the whole town at a big meeting or some other town gathering and as a result he was chased out. He originally planned to never go back, but after Melia ‘died’ Ren felt that the only way he could really get stronger was to find a way to change Goldenleaf. Now when getting to the Goldenleaf plot itself, unless it turns out that Mosely is super important to the plot later on, I’d cut her from the story and replace her with Ren, I don’t know how much Goldenleaf has changed from V8 to V9 but there’s a scene at the start of Goldenleaf that would be pretty impactful if it was Ren in Mosely’s place, if it’s not there anymore then have scene with a group of town members just beating the utter shit out of him. After you fight them off, Ren tells you how he was pretty much overwhelmed by them the moment he stepped into Goldenleaf, he is disheartened because now he’s realised how in over his head he was, two options appear, one is ‘stay silent, the other is ‘offer to help’, this is a relationship variable choice, you’ll gain +1 relationship with Ren if you offer to help but you don’t lose points for staying silent. Regardless what you choose, Ren goes to the Pokémon Centre to heal his team, from there you don’t see him again until the point you’d normally see Mosely again, he takes her role in the story and everything is the same up until you about to fight the Goldenleaf Gym Leader. Now you can either choose to ‘fight alone’ or ‘fight with Ren’, choosing to fight alone and you’ll battle the Gym Leader in a 1v1 fight, choosing to fight with Ren and it you and Ren vs the Gym Leader in a doubles battled and you gain another +1 to relationship with him. After the Goldenleaf plot wraps up you’ll have one last conversion with Ren, while he’ll admit to being upset that he couldn’t accomplish his goal by himself but he’ll also be genuinely thankful for your help and for what you did for Goldenleaf. The scene with Crescent still happens and Ren still joins Team Xen but now instead of it being the moment that cements Ren status as a poorly written character, it would become a shocking moment that would make the player wonder just what Crescent could have possibly said or done to him, that he’d join the people responsible for Melia ‘death’. So yeah that just about sums up how I would have of written Ren’s character, granted the game isn’t finished yet and everything I’ve wrote might clash with something later on, but thought I’d throw my two cents in to the whole Ren thing.

I'd be fine with personally, since i'm kinda putting off doing a full playthrough of Pokemon Reborn until the next version for all the gen 7 content, so i'd love to see the gen 7 mons in the mod early and i'd be interested to see what changes were made to them.

I actually really enjoy it when pokemon get their typings tewked, makes them seem little fresher if that makes sense and its not like the canon games haven't retcon'd typings before so I'm all for it. Also Electric/Dark type Luxray would be sick