Pokemon Gold PME (Suggestions/Anouncement)

[Guzam]

I'm not one to bore with long intros, so let's just get right into this.

 

A PME is short for Pick My Edits. As this implies, I will be editing a Pokemon Gold rom with edits to things you guys suggest to me. This idea was inspired by Fire Emblem PMEs where players would edit characters or items in the game in order to have a new, or more enjoyable experience, and the goal here is largely the same.

 

So, we can suggest edits for whatever we want right? Not so fast. I do have a few ground rules that need to be laid down.

- A few mons have already been edited by yours truly with input from some of my companions in the redemption staff. Said mons include: Cyndaquil Line, Totodile Line, Sentret Line, Rattata Line, Pidgey Line, Dunsparce, Aipom, Miltank, Dratini Line, Larvitar Line, Celebi, Exeggcute Line, Voltorb Line and Tyrogue Line. These mons will be uneditable as they have already been edited.

- I cannot change each mons sprite. Yet. This could change in the future if I find a tool that allows me to do so, but for now, expect to see some mons with weird names that don't entirely fit as the sprite has not changed.

- All gym leaders will be keeping their type and will have full teams of 6. This does not mean they will keep their aces, but it would be nice if you guys kept their aces at least partly their gym leaders type.

- All pokemon except single stage ones must keep the same BST. If you change, say, Magcargo, it needs to keep its same base stat total... However! In cases like magcargos where its BST has changed across generations, we will be using its gen 7 BST as a base. This goes for every single mon that has had a BST change.

- I (unfortunately) cannot change moves overall base powers and pp. If there's a tool out there that allows that (For Gold/Silver in particular that is) I would be happy if anyone could point me towards that.

- HMs (obviously) will not be edited.

- Don't hog a large amount of mon edits to yourself in your first post. This is really just common courtesy, but I also know this is the internet so :/

 

That seems like a lot of things right? Well it's not very much compared to what you can edit:

- Map suggestions. You know how you can go through Mt. Mortar before even fighting Morty? Let's just fill it with super high leveled trainers to prompt you to kindly get surf and not go through it early uwu.

- TM edits. Ever get annoyed that mud-slap is a tm in gen 2? Let's just change it to Recover : ^)

- Pokemon edits. You can make an edit to any pokemon that was not listed above. This includes their base stats, learned TMs/HMs, Types, level up learnset, evolution level/method, name, etc.

- Trainer edits. This one will become easier to do as we get more and more pokemon suggestions.

 

I expect you guys to get as creative in your edits as we did our first few edits. If you want an example of what you can do, allow me to provide you with one.

Miltank -> MilTANK

Normal -> Normal/Steel

95/80/105/40/70/100 -> 100/90/120/30/90/60

Gets Curse and Iron Tail in its level up movepool now.

 

Consider that a preview too ;]

 

Keep in mind that I will have to look over and accept your edits though. If I get multiple suggestions for what a mon should be edited to, we'll take votes on which one should be taken.

 

Go nuts everybody!

 

Edit: A sheet displaying what has, and hasn't been changed will be put up about 2-3 days from now.

 

 

 

[Hycrox]

SHIN GREGORY (starting with a meme)

 

95/125/79/60/100/81 > 95/60/99/130/75/81

 

Keep the typing, because...

 

Lightningrod

 

and it would learn Thunder too

 

and might as well change Gyarados's name to Gregory :]

Edited April 17, 2017 by Hycrox

[FairFamily]

1 minute ago, Hycrox said:

SHIN GREGORY (starting with a meme)

 

95/125/79/60/100/81 > 95/60/99/130/75/81

 

Keep the typing, because...

 

Lightningrod

 

and it would learn Thunder too

 

 

Damn it I was typing and taking a check on everything and got outsped. Here is what I wanted

Spoiler

 

Can I take gyarados?

 

Gyarados

Water/flying -> Water/Dragon

95/125/79/60/100/81 -> 95/59/80/125/100/81

gets crunch and outrage in level up movepool

TM - pool under probation until a new tm list released.

 

A few notes since this is gold, abilities are not a thing. So i'm not sure they can be added. Also gyarados could already learn thunder in gen 2 even zap cannon.

[Hycrox]

21 minutes ago, FairFamily said:

 

 

Damn it I was typing and taking a check on everything and got outsped. Here is what I wanted

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Can I take gyarados?

 

Gyarados

Water/flying -> Water/Dragon

95/125/79/60/100/81 -> 95/59/80/125/100/81

gets crunch and outrage in level up movepool

TM - pool under probation until a new tm list released.

 

A few notes since this is gold, abilities are not a thing. So i'm not sure they can be added. Also gyarados could already learn thunder in gen 2 even zap cannon.

The edit is that it would learn it naturally. And I forgot about abilities LOL. So yeah, Water/Dragon.

 

Also, what about this for Morty:

 

Misdreavus/Gastly/Haunter/Haunter/Haunter/Gengar (sets coming SOONTM)

 

Misdreavus: Pain Split/Curse/Double Team/Confuse Ray (EVs on the defenses)

Gastly: Perish Song/Destinny Bond/Mean Look/Spite (Max Speed), with a new BST of 340 (30/35/30/100/35/110) (crazy in that it outspeeds Haunter, but it could be because it's smaller :^])

Haunter nº1: Hypnosis/Dream Eater/Shadow Ball/Nightmare (Max Speed)

Haunter nº2: Thief/Psychic/Thunderbolt/Giga Drain (Max SpAtk and Speed)

Haunter nº3: Night Shade/Hypnosis/Nightmare/Confuse Ray (higher leveled that everything else but Gengar)

Gengar (ACE): Night Shade/Giga Drain/Fire Punch/Ice Punch (Max SpAtk and Speed)

 

medium-ish levels to make it a little bit less OP

Edited April 17, 2017 by Hycrox

[Guzam]

I'd prefer we get most of the 251 edited before we start making the teams for the leaders, as they will likely have more options by then.

[FairFamily]

Let's see I 'm taking ninetales then.

 

Vulpix

Fire->Fire/Psychic

38/41/40/50/65/65->40/34/40/55/65/65

Learns confusion,psywave and psychic by level up

Learns psychic by tm

 

Ninetales

Fire->Fire/Psychic

73/76/75/81/100/100->80/49/75/101/100/100

Learns flamethrower,confusion,psywave, future sight and psychic by level up

Learns psychic by tm

[InnocentSerenity]

I imagine Trade Evolutions are already changed to be level up or stone? 

Edited April 17, 2017 by InnocentSerenity

[Guzam]

Correct @InnocentSerenity

[Hycrox]

oi

 

then...

 

Tauros:

 

Fiighting

 

75/100/95/40/70/110 > 75/130/75/40/70/100 + Submission

[InnocentSerenity]

Oh, another question. Will Fairy type be a thing we can give to Pokémon, or not allowed?

[Guzam]

Fairy typing will unfortunately not be a thing.

[Ojama Yellow]

oh

oh, baby.

thank you so much, pyrr.

 

Caterpie

Bug

45/30/35/20/20/45 -> 50/35/35/20/15/40

Now learns Scary Face through leveling.

 

Metapod -> Metagod

Bug

50/20/55/25/25/30 -> 70/20/80/15/15/5

Now learns Barrier through leveling.

Now learns Protect through TM.

 

Butterfree -> Beefwee

Bug/Flying -> Bug/Psychic

60/45/50/80/80/70 -> 60/20/25/100/80/100

Now learns Psychic, Recover and Dream Eater through leveling.

Now learns Roar and Nightmare through TM.

(google 'beefwee' to see inspiration)

 

Growlithe

Fire -> Fire/Normal

55/70/45/70/50/60 -> 55/60/55/70/55/55

 

Arcanine -> Barkus

Fire -> Fire/Normal

90/110/80/100/80/95 -> 100/110/80/110/80/75

Now learns Thrash through leveling.

 

I would also vouch to re-introduce Thunderbolt, Flamethrower and Ice Beam as TMs (leaving this out is a crime against humanity). It has also always bothered me how Fire Blast, Thunder, Blizzard and Solar Meme are TMs, but Hydro Pump isn't, so nominating Hydro Pump to get TM'd as well.

 

Also, I've got a bit of tools saved on my pc. Some were lost in the great computer crash, but as soon as I can access my files again, I'll look to see if there's anything helpful.

[BIGJRA]

TM50 Nightmare is now TM50 Octazooka :^)

[Hycrox]

Bellossom > Blazossom (Grass/Fire) (d8nk)

 

75/50/65/110/70/120

 

Now learns Fire Blast through leveling :]

[Daniel Blackworth]

Porygon > Prism

65/60/70/85/75/40 > 70/50/70/90/70/45

 

Porygon2 > Prism Lord

85/80/90/105/95/60 > 85/70/95/115/100/60

 

Make Entei and Raikou non roaming. Instead, do special encounters like the one with Suicune.

[Anime]

Lapras: water/ice > ice/dragon

130/85/80/85/95/60 > 100/85/90/109/95/100

let Misty have Suicune in her team

 

Edited April 18, 2017 by Amine elhedhili

[IntSys]

Allow me to exercise some... creative freedom with the trashier TMs.

 

TM12 Sweet Scent -> Leech Seed

TM13 Snore -> Pay Day (WHO WANTS TO GRIND?)

TM24 Dragonbreath -> Outrage

TM31 Mud Slap -> Drill Peck (And yes, this foreshadows the inevitable broken Falkner team)

TM40 Defense Curl -> Mach Punch

TM43 Detect -> Spore (Somebody's lucky day~)

TM49 Fury Cutter -> Swords Dance

 

And I'll also leave you with one line of mon edits:

 

Gastly -> Rick Gastly
Type: Ghost / Poison -> Ghost / Fire

Learnset changes:

Level 1 Lick -> Bite

Level 13 Mean Look -> Fire Spin

Level 25 - Perish Song

Level 27 - Flame Wheel

Level 30 - Substitute

 

Evolves at Level 25.

 

Haunter -> Big Haunt

Type: Ghost / Poison -> Ghost / Fire

New Stats:

HP: 45

Atk: 50 -> 40 (-10)

Def: 45

SpA: 115

SpD: 55

Spe: 95 -> 105 (+10)

Learnset changes:

Level 1 Lick -> Bite

Level 13 Mean Look -> Fire Spin

Level 25 - Perish Song

Level 30 - Flame Wheel

Level 33 - Substitute

Level 34 - Fire Punch

Level 50 - Flamethrower

 

Evolves at Level 50.

 

Gengar -> The Blight

Type: Ghost / Poison -> Ghost / Fire

Stats changes:

HP: 60

Atk: 65 -> 45 (-20)

Def: 60

SpA: 130 -> 135 (+5)

SpD: 75

Spe: 110 -> 125 (+15)

Learnset changes:

Level 1 Lick -> Bite

Level 13 Mean Look -> Fire Spin

Level 25 - Perish Song

Level 30 -> Flame Wheel

Level 33 - Substitute

Level 34 - Fire Punch

Level 50 - Flamethrower

Level 54 - Crunch

Level 70 - Sacred Fire (A little something for you if you actually end up taking this thing to the very end.)

 

TM Changes:

Loses TM33 - Ice Punch but gains TM38 - Fire Blast.

 

 

Chandelure, but better.

[FairFamily]

Well since nobody is taking something up: I will take 2 lines.

 

Skarmory

Type Steel/flying

65/80/140/40/70/70->65/100/90/40/70/100

Learns wing attack, sword dance and metal claw by level up.

 

Sunkern->Thunkern

Grass->Grass/Electric

30/30/30/30/30/30-> 40/5/40/50/40/5

learns rain dance instead of sunny day

Learns thunder shock and thunder wave by level up

 

Sunflora->Thunflora

Grass->Grass/Electric

75/75/55/105/85/30->95/20/90/120/90/10

learns rain dance instead of sunny day  and thunder instead of Solarbeam by level up

Learns mega drain, giga drain, synthesis, thunder shock ,thunder wave and thunderbolt  by level up

learns rain dance instead of sunny day  and thunder instead of solarbeam by tm

learns thunderpunch by tm

[BIGJRA]

I think it's a good idea before we solidify edits on Pokemon learnsets to maybe finish TM's first? Here's a list of what we got so far, maybe it might be useful to use this list henceforth??

 

 

 

01 DynamicPunch
02 Headbutt
03 Curse
04 Rollout
05 Roar
06 Toxic
07 Zap Cannon
08 Rock Smash
09 Psych Up
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
12 Sweet Scent Leech Seed
13 Snore Pay Day
14 Blizzard
15 Hyper Beam
16 Icy Wind
17 Protect
18 Rain Dance
19 Giga Drain
20 Endure
21 Frustration
22 SolarBeam
23 Iron Tail
24 DragonBreath Outrage
25 Thunder
26 Earthquake
27 Return
28 Dig
29 Psychic
30 Shadow Ball
31 Mud-Slap Drill Peck
32 Double Team
33 Ice Punch
34 Swagger
35 Sleep Talk
36 Sludge Bomb
37 Sandstorm
38 Fire Blast
39 Swift
40 Defense Curl Mach Punch
41 ThunderPunch
42 Dream Eater
43 Detect Spore
44 Rest
45 Attract
46 Thief
47 Steel Wing
48 Fire Punch
49 Fury Cutter Swords Dance
50 Nightmare Octazooka

H1 Cut
H2 Fly
H3 Surf
H4 Strength
H5 Flash
H6 Whirlpool
H7 Waterfall

 
 

 

 

Also, @Maximillion Pegasus suggested we but these four moves in:

+Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Hydro Pump.

So, we have to decide: which moves are getting replaced?

[FairFamily]

Zap Canon, Frustration, dynamic punch and psych up would be my suggestions.

[BIGJRA]

In that case, updated TM list...

 

01 DynamicPunch Ice Beam
02 Headbutt
03 Curse
04 Rollout
05 Roar
06 Toxic
07 Zap Cannon Thunderbolt
08 Rock Smash
09 Psych Up Hydro Pump
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
12 Sweet Scent Leech Seed
13 Snore Pay Day
14 Blizzard
15 Hyper Beam
16 Icy Wind
17 Protect
18 Rain Dance
19 Giga Drain
20 Endure
21 Frustration Flamethrower
22 SolarBeam
23 Iron Tail
24 DragonBreath Outrage
25 Thunder
26 Earthquake
27 Return
28 Dig
29 Psychic
30 Shadow Ball
31 Mud-Slap Drill Peck
32 Double Team
33 Ice Punch
34 Swagger
35 Sleep Talk
36 Sludge Bomb
37 Sandstorm
38 Fire Blast
39 Swift
40 Defense Curl Mach Punch
41 ThunderPunch
42 Dream Eater
43 Detect Spore
44 Rest
45 Attract
46 Thief
47 Steel Wing
48 Fire Punch
49 Fury Cutter Swords Dance
50 Nightmare Octazooka

H1 Cut
H2 Fly
H3 Surf
H4 Strength
H5 Flash
H6 Whirlpool
H7 Waterfall
 

[FairFamily]

Time to update my pkmn:

 

Vulpix

Fire->Fire/Psychic

38/41/40/50/65/65->40/34/40/55/65/65

Learns confusion,psywave and psychic by level up

Learns psychic and flamethrower by tm

 

Ninetales

Fire->Fire/Psychic

73/76/75/81/100/100->80/49/75/101/100/100

Learns flamethrower,confusion,psywave, future sight and psychic by level up

Learns psychic and flamethrower by tm

 

Skarmory

Type Steel/flying

65/80/140/40/70/70->65/100/90/40/70/100

Learns wing attack, sword dance and metal claw by level up.

Learns drill peck and sword dance by tm.

 

Sunkern->Thunkern

Grass->Grass/Electric

30/30/30/30/30/30-> 40/5/40/50/40/5

learns rain dance instead of sunny day

Learns thunder shock and thunder wave by level up

 

Sunflora->Thunflora

Grass->Grass/Electric

75/75/55/105/85/30->95/20/90/120/90/10

learns rain dance instead of sunny day  and thunder instead of Solarbeam by level up

Learns mega drain, giga drain, synthesis, thunder shock ,thunder wave and thunderbolt  by level up

learns rain dance instead of sunny day  and thunder instead of solarbeam by tm

learns thunderpunch and thunderbolt by tm